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I've heard your allegations but not seen your evidence or repubs doing anything about it at the time so it's easy to dismiss right wing talking points they use to convince themselves and as for the honesty of what the dufus says, my gosh they are proven lies even if they sound good to you, but it's comical the way you spin the lies and big mouth as a good thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
On Obama? Are you kidding? How about 4 dead bodies in Benghazi? Would that be enough evidence for you? The lying on 5 Sunday morning news programs that went on? Or the VA scandal? Or the IRS scandal? The secret meeting between Lynch and BC just days before HC was let off the hook? If you can't see that, then your eyes are closed. It is all out in the open for anyone who is interested in the truth to notice.Quote:
not seen your evidence
That's what really discredits your complaining in my view. Your explosive vitriol that you direct at Trump, and yet the incredible blindness you direct towards Obama just make your complaining to be clearly a lot of political noise.
You sound like a broken record with half of it missing, so all due respect, I dismiss your whole accounting of what is now documented and archived HISTORY. Today we have the saddest excuse for a great nation as I have ever witnessed and it honestly gives me no joy or pride to endure it, but I do hope as a nation we can overcome this dismal display of idiocy.
To clarify, It goes beyond the partisan political noise of typical silly season electioneering, it's America at a lot less than it's best, and that diminishes us both, as well as ALL of US!
jlisenbe: I am glad AOC is not a Libertarian, too....However, she is an idealist...and I don't agree with those ideals much at all.....But, she is a beautiful woman! And, I always liked beautiful women! Personal weakness!
So you dismiss the negatives of the Obama years? Why am I not surprised? Again, it makes so much of your complaining just ring hollow.Quote:
I dismiss your whole accounting of what is now documented and archived HISTORY.
Beautiful on the outside. Inside??? Highly suspect.Quote:
jlisenbe: I am glad AOC is not a Libertarian, too....However, she is an idealist...and I don't agree with those ideals much at all.....But, she is a beautiful woman! And, I always liked beautiful women! Personal weakness!
You misread, I dismiss your accounting of the Obama administration.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Do you think Obama was born in the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
NO, he lied
Paraclete: I have always had my suspicions about Obama's birthplace, too....never reconciled it in my mind.....he could have prevented all that by just immediately producing his Birth Certificate when all the talk about it started but he waited way too long, which added to the gossipers conversation.
Anybody concerned with Rudy and our government helping the thug dufus get dirt on political foes from other countries? Or asking China to get dirt on his political foes?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp
3 different links folks, and obviously I'm going to ignore that birther stuff and why you would even question the birthplace of a congressman, then a senator with an American mom in the first place.
Just breaking!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/whistle...e-tax-returns/
More stalling?
I have no reason not to believe that, just like I have no reason not to believe that he orchestrated a gigantic cover up about what caused the Benghazi massacre.Quote:
Do you think Obama was born in the US?
So they FELT that? Well then it just has to be true, doesn't it??? I mean that is what they FELT!!Quote:
reveal that officials felt Trump would not agree to meet with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky unless Zelensky promised to launch the investigations — and did so publicly.
I think it would be laughable if not so serious, that the dufus worries so much about corruption in other countries but goes through great lengths to hide his own. Even more puzzling is that repubs think it's okay for foreigners to investigate Americans who so far happen to be just his political enemies.
I guess if a liar says it often enough then it must be true huh?
Says the man who voted for Obama TWICE and for HC as well, both individuals well known for scandals.Quote:
that the dufus worries so much about corruption in other countries but goes through great lengths to hide his own.
So it's okay to solicit a foreign government to investigate an American citizen who happens to be his political opponent. I think the law says otherwise.
You got me! I voted for Obama TWICE, and HC once and never held my nose, nor am I holding it now. Can you say the same? Of course you can't. You have to excuse me while I READ the emails brought forth in yesterdays testimony.
I haven't said that is OK, but at least I am an equal opportunity criticizer. You, on the other hand, are politically selective with your outrage. While you're reading those emails, you might want to visit the graves of the dead Americans from Benghazi. Might give you a little perspective.Quote:
So it's okay to solicit a foreign government to investigate an American citizen who happens to be his political opponent. I think the law says otherwise.
If you didn't hold your nose with those two, then you must have lost your sense of smell.Quote:
You got me! I voted for Obama TWICE, and HC once and never held my nose, nor am I holding it now. Can you say the same?
I think the road is laden with mines! Here is the issue: To find dirt on someone, they must have made dirt......then comes the question of: Why did they make dirt in the first place. Just because someone with few scruples, like President Trump, has the temerity to ask a foreign government for dirt on you doesn't absolve you from the need to be scrutinized...playing the victim is fairly superficial. If you didn't commit a crime, of some description, then there wouldn't be a rug to find dirt under. I think this whole thing is headed for a "Nuclear Exchange" if the documents Giuliani has on the Bidens (Father & Son) come to light.....Trump may take a torpedo below the water line but Biden will absorb a so many salvos his ship, too, will keel over.
Its going to get really nasty.
It's silly season Vac, and no dirt is actually needed to smear an opponent or anybody else since that's been the dufus playbook since he announced his candidacy. It's against the law to solicit a foreign nation to help a political campaign no matter what the cover story is, and against the law for you to use government time and resources to run a campaign.
If you cannot see that the dufus breaks both of those laws then maybe you should brush up on the law. I can forgive many for not being able to read the Mueller Reort, or understand it, but the latest developments are extremely compelling and the dufus is in trouble no matter what repubs in the senate do about it.
Yeah Nasty is the word for it alright. Guiliani will be the first casualty though I predict, but clearly others will get sucked into this mess the dufus makes.
Cherry picking your own facts and dismissing the whole story is highly prejudicial and deceptive since you got nothing but right wing talking points that ignore the findings in MANY investigations into this sneak attack. You go visit those graves for perspective as a life lost is tragic, and would have been more but for the actins of the others that blunted the attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Sadly that's the way terrorists attacks go, as well as anytime the bad guys get the drop on the good guys no matter where it is. We've had enough of those in this country for you to know that and have a sober perspective on it, so spare me the conspiracy theories of the loonies. Politicizing such a tragedy is just plain despicable.
Nah. You just don't like the facts. It was plainly a coordinated terror attack and Obama knew that, but then he sent Susan Rice onto five Sunday morning news programs to say it was just an spontaneous response to a offensive video the attackers did not like. That was completely untrue. If Trump had done that, you'd want his head, but since it was your beloved Mr. Obama, then you just blow the whole thing off. The families of the dead Americans would beg to differ with you. Politics.Quote:
Cherry picking your own facts and dismissing the whole story is highly prejudicial and deceptive since you got nothing but right wing talking points that ignore the findings in MANY investigations into this sneak attack.
I think it is important that a President should focus on the corruption that US citizens might be bringing to other countries. Clearly there are issues with Biden activities in the Ukraine
Paraclete: I am willing to let ALL the evidence come out and then decisions can be made intelligently.
This Hunter Biden, I found out, was kicked out of the Navy for drugs and then turned around and gained carnal knowledge of his brother's wife.....I don't know what he did or didn't do in the Ukraine but I know that I don't like him based off of those two facts....I am not Victorian nor am I a Puritan either but I draw the line on some things.
The whole affair with Ukraine will either be a bloodbath or it will blow over to nothing. Trump's ACE IN THE HOLE is AG Barr.
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Originally Posted by Vacuum7
"...gained carnal knowledge of his brother's wife..."! Good grief! Join the 21st century.
Anyway, you're dead wrong. They were both free agents. Hunter was separated from his wife, and his brother had died of brain cancer. You really should be more careful when assassinating someone's character. Tells us a lot about YOU.
As for the rest, it means nothing in the discussion over impeaching Trump. It's just another side-show distraction Trump is expert at when he needs to change the subject.
As far as Trump's ACE IN THE HOLE being AG Barr - what are you smoking? Barr is worse than Trump. At least Trump can plead Derangement Syndrome. Barr knows exactly what he's doing and will probably be criminally charged whereas Trump can only be impeached, not criminally charged (until he leaves office).
This seems like flogging a dead horse, it will be another case of nothing to see here
No doubt the president for profit would rather you look at his opponents which at the moment are the Bidens, than his own family, or what he is doing, both in the WH and outside of it. He certainly has enough sycophants and yes men around him to carry that out since he took over the repub party. He can stall all he wants but I hope dems keep up the pressure at least.
While it's not required to gather evidence, a vote in the House making the impeachment inquiry OFFICIAL would go a long way in swaying the courts to enforce all those subpoenas as well as a few more whistle blowers wouldn't hurt. LOL, the way to fight an unlawful bully is with the law. The dufus hates the law, because he is not above it despite the hype that he is.
Exactly.Quote:
This seems like flogging a dead horse, it will be another case of nothing to see here
Athos: Making out with my dead brother's wife is just creepy....that's all I'm saying.
I have no problem with scrutinizing candidates for president myself, and have said so, but not at the expense of ignoring the guy who holds the offfice already as a fair comparison. You want to follow Biden and his kids money fine, but let's follow the dufus's and his kids money too! Sounds fair to me.
So far though the dufus and his sycophants don't want fair and never did. I mean would you love the dufus as much if you found out that he owes Vlad a fortune, and Vlad was demanding his money? Sound far fetched? Well shouldn't we at least check it out? I mean the guy has run scams before with charities and fake schools and even scammed the government in housing and barred from all those things so what makes you think he wouldn't find another sucker after those casinos failed?
Maybe we should be asking those other countries he deals with for an investigation? Oh wait, that's exactly what Nancy and the dems are trying to do. That sounds pretty fair too!
Yo Vac, if you think doing the wild thang with a sister in law is creepy, what do you think about poking a few porn stars and playboy bunnies behind your wifes back and paying them to keep it quiet?
Talaniman: I just don't want us to start "Investigating" every single accusation that comes down the pipe....these investigations are expensive! Like frivolous lawsuits....there has to be some kind of legitimate "Screening Process" for these things to be vetted as realistic and for them to move forward.....that's my only contention....if they clear those hurdles, then its full speed ahead. Otherwise its Salem, Mass. all over again!
I couldn't imagine any of the NASTY stuff you mention...not doing it myself......and, making out with my brother's wife is a disgusting thought, alive or dead.....Of course, that is NO CRIME, just a weird proclivity and says something about his character. No a fan of DANCING with someone other than the one that brought me.....you want to do that, go get a big "D", and I don't mean Dallas.
There is a vetting process for whistle blowers to follow, and so far they have. That's why it gets dumped in the relevant Inspector Generals lap, and evaluated and moved to the congress. The second WB just came out.
Same can be said of the duly appointed special councel Robert Mueller who made his report earlier in the year though few read it and the dems dropped the ball in presenting it to the public, and executing it's findings, while repubs just ignored it completely, and blasted the dems incompetence. Shame.
Your Old Testament doesn't think so. My guess is your repulsion re normal sex is not matched by a similar repulsion against inbreeding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vacuum7
It says ENORMOUSLY more about your character than his!Quote:
that is NO CRIME, just a weird proclivity and says something about his character.
Exactly correct, but not likely in the way you mean it. If you want to make an appeal to character, then I don't know I would appeal to the Bidens.Quote:
It says ENORMOUSLY more about your character than his!
I doubt you would appeal to the dufus either.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I couldn't imagine any of the NASTY stuff you mention...not doing it myself......and, making out with my brother's wife is a disgusting thought, alive or dead.
"Your Old Testament doesn't think so. My guess is your repulsion re normal sex is not matched by a similar repulsion against inbreeding."
Athos: Now why would YOU, OF ALL PEOPLE, JUST OUT OF THE CLEAR BLUE, EVOKE THE BIBLE INTO ANY CONVERSATION? Are you a CLOSET BIBLICAL SCHOLAR? For a man that hates Bible references, you certainly are quick to attempt to bring them to bear at your convenience.
Man, I didn't realize this before, but you've really got no standards and certainly no sense of decency, whatsoever.
TALK ABOUT NASTY! And, it looks like your lack of standards extends far and wide: When you back these weirdos, you back them to the hilt, don't you, no matter how far out in space they are: Obviously, the qualifier for you that they are acceptable is that they have to be "of the left", I guess. NORMAL SEX? Now, how would know it was normal of that it wasn't normal: You weren't there: Here's is what the rest of the world knows: Ain't nothing NORMAL about sleeping with your dead brother's wife, under any circumstance: AND IF YOU THINK IT IS, THAT SAYS LOADS ABOUT YOU, SPORT!
What did I say to illicit the smartass comment to me about inbreeding? What the hell makes you think that I think that is O.K.? Inbreeding is not O.K., either
that is NO CRIME, just a weird proclivity and says something about his character.
"It says ENORMOUSLY more about your character than his!"
It does? What kind of prism are you looking through: YOU ARE ONE TWISTED SISTER: How does my objection to someone screwing their dead brother's wife impugn MY CHARACTER? Love to hear your left spinning spiral on that one.
Too dopey to take the time to respond.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vacuum7
Athos: That's funny, you took time to DEFEND A DOPEHEAD named Biden but you can't defend your own words.....that is easy to figure out why: Your words can't be defended.
You are entirely correct,Tal.Quote:
I doubt you would appeal to the dufus either.
I agree with Athos. YOUR dopey response was too dopey to respond to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vacuum7
That's fine that you choose to think that way but be aware: You are siding with Athos, the DEFENDER of A DOPEHEAD AND A MAN WHO SLEEPS WITH HIS DEAD BROTHER'S WIFE...A REAL WINNER OF A MAN.....And Athos, who for whatever twisted reason, the fellow who decided to insinuate that I thought that INBREEDING was acceptable behavior, and he knows, damn well, that he has never heard me make such a defense.....that is who you are siding with here.
What's wrong with sleeping with his dead brother's wife?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vacuum7
It sure sounds like you think sleeping with (btw, the first term used in this thread was "making out" -- now he's sleeping with her....?) one's sister-in-law is in-breeding ("a disgusting thought, dead or alive" -- your words that sound like you mean inbreeding).
W.G.: That is not what I said: What I said was that sleeping with/making out/gaining carnal knowledge of you dead brother's wife is not normal behavior and is not right, just sick behavior! All the women in this world and you choose your dead brother's wife: some kind of sick....Athos considers this to be normal.
I didn't say anything about "inbreeding", that was Athos when he told me that I probably thought had no problems with "inbreeding"......now, why would he say such a thing, what reason? He never heard me support such and abomination. I grew up on a farm, I know the dangers of inbreeding: its wrong.....and I don't care that European royal families thought it was just fine.
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