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There were decades when the Chinese were fighting this war and our leaders rolled over an played dead . That includes 20 years of Bushes and Bubba and the emperor .

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There were decades when the Chinese were fighting this war and our leaders rolled over an played dead . That includes 20 years of Bushes and Bubba and the emperor .

Allowing business to conduct business, and how many businesses refused to do what the Chinese wanted? NONE, so if they were so egregious why did they do business with them? If they dumped so much cheap stuff, why did American companies even go along with it? If you think trade wars and arms races and military deployments gets you a deal, then that remains to be seen, but I doubt it, but it will be a slugfest. Not saying the Chinese and other nations haven't dealt in their own interests, surely they have and as underhanded as we have surely been.

Capitalist Creed-Destroy the competition. Now tell me it doesn't.

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amazing how the common sense consensus always moves the needle closer to the way progressives see the world .

Funny you say that after conservatives shellacked the dems badly in 2010 and 2112 and not just in congress but the state ;egislations and governors so stop crying about progessives getting their way.

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nice more rhetoric to fuel the coming civil war .

What makes you think the Civil war ever ended in 1865? The metal chains came off, but I'll be darned if the economic and social chains weren't tightened even more.

What civil war were YOU referring too?

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Trump has no negotiating skills, it is his way or the highway. Macrom blindsided him overnight by inviting a representative of Iran to the G7 in what could only be described as an intervention. If Trump had skills he would have taken the opportunity to deescalate the relationship.It is time the world moved on from Trump's grandstanding agendas, there are important things to do

now Trump is doing more harm, ruining the Queen's lawn

Forget the queen, he is trying to ruin our own USA lawns with Putin coming to his Miama property for the next G7 meeting next year during our election season. No doubt he will raise the rates as taxpayers foot the bill that he will pocket, because as he said in his presser "he loses billions being president"! What a conniving liar. Now he makes real estate ads for his property from France...for free no less!

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Forget the queen, he is trying to ruin our own USA lawns with Putin coming to his Miama property for the next G7 meeting next year during our election season. No doubt he will raise the rates as taxpayers foot the bill that he will pocket, because as he said in his presser "he loses billions being president"! What a conniving liar. Now he makes real estate ads for his property from France...for free no less!

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You don't get it Tal, Trump is disrespectful, as the richest woman in the world, The queen could probably buy and sell him, if he doesn't respect the office he should respect the money, bet he wouldn't do it to his Billionaire mates or Putin

I get it Clete, but am not as surprised and shocked as you seem to be that the dufus disrespects women PERIOD. He has a history of it, now he is the top dog by choice and is still doing what he has always done and screw anyone who doesn't like it.

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I get it Clete, but am not as surprised and shocked as you seem to be that the dufus disrespects women PERIOD. He has a history of it, now he is the top dog by choice and is still doing what he has always done and screw anyone who doesn't like it.

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Tal, Trump respects noone but himself and I sometimes wonder if he doesn't exhibit total lack of self-respect. He desperately needs the acclaim of others, he would the most needy person on the planet. He doesn't understand that by respecting others he will get what he needs and someone may actually agree with him. I'm still waiting to see the big beautiful wall, he seems to have dropped all reference to it, as he has with obamacare, DACA, infrastructure, Kim and all he is focused on are tariffs, a very outmoded economic measure

He should be aware Tal that not much surprises and shocks me. I find a great deal regretable in this world

As do I Clete, but I'm a glass half full kind of guy, and guys like our dufus don't do well when he gets out of his lane and screws others. Matter of time, as his transgressions build and the people he has screwed return the favor.

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As do I Clete, but I'm a glass half full kind of guy, and guys like our dufus don't do well when he gets out of his lane and screws others. Matter of time, as his transgressions build and the people he has screwed return the favor.

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You are optimistic Tal but it seems Trump manages to screw others before they screw him so only the tide of public opinion can overcome him. It is sad we must wait another year to see if the tide rises high enough

I've seen a lot of things happen in a year Clete, that can make or break even presidents. Then there is always that political pendulum that after swinging right will swing left again eventually, but we have to suffer through the dufus era regardless. I still have my Netflix and popcorn, and batteries for the remote, and all in abubdance. I have survived many presidents but this is one of the worst. If it gets worse, there is still Jack Daniels who got me through the eighties and nineties. Can't tell if the BLUR was better than the popcorn sometimes, but at least popcorn has protein.

Somebody will have to clean up the mess this dufus has made, the worst I've ever seen by far. Maybe it's time to seriously consider that cottage in the outback. We'll see.

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I've seen a lot of things happen in a year Clete, that can make or break even presidents. Then there is always that political pendulum that after swinging right will swing left again eventually, but we have to suffer through the dufus era regardless. I still have my Netflix and popcorn, and batteries for the remote, and all in abubdance. I have survived many presidents but this is one of the worst. If it gets worse, there is still Jack Daniels who got me through the eighties and nineties. Can't tell if the BLUR was better than the popcorn sometimes, but at least popcorn has protein.

Somebody will have to clean up the mess this dufus has made, the worst I've ever seen by far. Maybe it's time to seriously consider that cottage in the outback. We'll see.

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Wouldn't do that mate, no rain, things are bad in the outback

A condo in the heart of Sidney? You have condos don't you?

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Two things, we don't call them condo's and it is spelled Sydney. So let me see you have two million to waste on an ocean view, I can think of better places where it might even rain. Besides there are some real problems with shonky builders in Sydney

Why isn't anyone thinking or talking about all of this in terms of PROTECTING THE AMERICAN WORKER? The left is always shouting about "worker rights" and labor unions but when it comes right down to protecting American jobs/American workers, the left is awol! PROTECT U.S. JOBS AT ALL COSTS! If we don't produce anything, there will not be anything to sell....and that, really, will be the end of everything. I don't think I am oversimplifying it even one little bit!

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Why isn't anyone thinking or talking about all of this in terms of PROTECTING THE AMERICAN WORKER? The left is always shouting about "worker rights" and labor unions but when it comes right down to protecting American jobs/American workers, the left is awol! PROTECT U.S. JOBS AT ALL COSTS! If we don't produce anything, there will not be anything to sell....and that, really, will be the end of everything. I don't think I am oversimplifying it even one little bit!

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Do you really think the american worker needs protecting? you have had it good for a long time, but the days of keeping low wage jobs in the country, any developed country, is really flogging a dead horse. Automation has arrived, dem robos can do it faster an more accurate. There are lots of things you can do internally, service jobs, so look to being a smart nation

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Why isn't anyone thinking or talking about all of this in terms of PROTECTING THE AMERICAN WORKER? The left is always shouting about "worker rights" and labor unions but when it comes right down to protecting American jobs/American workers, the left is awol! PROTECT U.S. JOBS AT ALL COSTS! If we don't produce anything, there will not be anything to sell....and that, really, will be the end of everything. I don't think I am oversimplifying it even one little bit!

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Let's see, repubs have run congress since 2011, and nixed Obama's agenda, and they had the WH in 2016. yet the dems have been awol on workers rights? Go tell that to Big Biz, and repubs and those robots like Clete says. Or vote for the dems!

How come, out of every contest, it seems, the American worker gets a good beating?....Whomever is in office, doesn't matter which side, they act like the American worker is the enemy! Am I being unrealistic? I don't think so!

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How come, out of every contest, it seems, the American worker gets a good beating?....Whomever is in office, doesn't matter which side, they act like the American worker is the enemy! Am I being unrealistic? I don't think so!

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I don't think you get it, things are tough all over for those low paid jobs, this is why they are being done in Asia and people in Asia make good product. It is no use griping, you have to find something else to do. I know my country has had to reconstruct many industries over the last forty years and most of them have gone. This is what happens when you have free trade, it has to be free both ways

Since when did the government control the business cycle? Was it government who did away with unions, and resist getting them? Is it government who sets the wage scale, or make schedules that only allow enough hours so they don't have to pay benefits, because you are just a part time worker? Is it government that decides to close a plant or facility and move overseas? Is it government that buys the technology that replaces workers or decides to layoff during the slow season? Didn't Bush I tell you that it was a new world order coming. We have been transitioning from a industrial base to a service base for decades now, and juicing the economy with rich guy deficit funded tax cuts that exceeded their wildest dreams and making them permanent while giving poorer people who can't even afford to pay a payroll tax a temporary cut is rather insulting.

If states hadn't passed their own minimum wage increases, you wouldn't get a darn thing. Do the math, your paycheck got bigger but tax return got smaller but more money was returned to the treasury from those payroll deductions. Hmm. I won't even start my favorite rant about loopholes and rich guy deductions they have enjoyed for years, and still do or the big multinationals that paid no taxes even before their tax cuts, so yeah seems like big biz and government are in bed together and workers do get screwed.

That does make you half right though doesn't it?

Talaniman: Questions that form a pattern: I'm going way back for this one but, you know, the Federal Income Tax was only supposed to be a "temporary tax": What in the hell happened with that? Why is it institutionalized? Why do states without income taxes thrive? Why does New England shrivel and dry up and businesses leave while the South grows and flourishes?

Now, point of it all is that Trump didn't start any of this Merry Go Round Of Pain and he probably will not finish or stop any of it.....However, when we claim Trump is the root of all evil, its just not realistic. Trump doesn't follow rules, he just doesn't, and he probably won't in the future....he makes his own rules in many cases. All these things that are said about him, I know a lot of them are true but the guy is a winner, he has a horseshoe up his . I don't necessarily like him but, good God, I can think of plenty of people who have attempted to become president that would have made Trump look like a statesman, a scholar, and, perhaps, a Saint. He, possibly, isn't the "best" but he certainly isn't the worse.

Trump is a lot of things to a lot of people, and those opinions range from him being a Son Of A From Hell to The Best President Ever.....what he is, really, is something between the extremes. He isn't my favorite but, you know what, I am really proud he isn't a Macron! MACRON: THE REAL DUFUS! Now, Matteo Salvini, there is a man with balls! Men like him will save Europe from wimps like Macron and bullies like the Germans!

So you think threatening to deport children and families while they are being treated in the hospital and giving them 30 days to comply is a great way to handling migrants?

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However, when we claim Trump is the root of all evil, its just not realistic...he makes his own rules in many cases. All these things that are said about him, I know a lot of them are true but the guy is a winner, he has a horseshoe up his .... I can think of plenty of people who have attempted to become president that would have made Trump look like a statesman, a scholar, and, perhaps, a Saint. He, possibly, isn't the "best" but he certainly isn't the worse.

Trump is a lot of things to a lot of people, and those opinions range from him being a Son Of A From Hell to The Best President Ever.....what he is, really, is something between the extremes

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Trump is by far the nearest to evil of any US president. As a malignant narcissist, he lacks all empathy and shows no concern for the least of these - the children locked up in cages. Now, as noted above, he is demanding children with life-threatening illnesses be deported within 33 days. The only available treatment is in the US. The notification was made by letter with NO APPEAL, and arrived halfway through the 33-day period. In effect, Trump is sentencing these children to death.

You say you can think of "plenty of people" running for president who would have made Trump look like a statesman, a scholar, and a saint. This is one of your most preposterous comments. Please name one single human being, dead or alive, wishing to be president who made Trump look like you say. Just one! Are you observing the same Trump the rest of the world is seeing?

NO ONE, NOWHERE, NO HOW EVER CALLED TRUMP THE BEST PRESIDENT EVER. Sorry, one did - Trump himself.

"The guy is a winner", you say - that's runner-up for most preposterous statement ever. I assume you're referring to his business acumen. Let's review that. He failed in every single business he started with the single exception of his TV show. Trump vodka, Trump Airline, Trump University ( an absolute fraud), Trump Steaks - and Gambling casinos that he declared bankruptcy for - a business that at the time was booming, but Trump managed to run into the ground. He publicly stated that bankruptcy was a way for him to make money - i.e., his investors were left losing the money.

Trump's money was inherited from his father. The father's real estate kept Trump going. Trump was such a bad businessman, he could not get a single US bank to lend him a dime. Finally, Deutsche Bank floated him half a billion or so. Do you know that bank? That's the one fined for laundering money and is in bed with the Russian oligarchs. One pundit claimed that Putin's Russians co-signed the loan (still not verified - but sounds true).

You don't seem to understand what racism is. How about declining to rent to African-Americans, being fined by the Feds, then doing it again? African-American applications were marked with a large C for Colored. Is that racist enough for you? Many nefarious forms of racism are a bit too subtle for you, based on what you wrote. It is not necessary to use the N word to be racist.

Then there's the payments to porn stars which he denied until the check signed by him was produced. His attempts to emasculate NATO. (I wonder why he's doing that? Hmm.) And, finally for now, the bizarre tariffs that are killing American farmers. Trump has proven that he has no clue how tariffs operate.

This was today's very well-written political column in the Chicago Sun-Times --

https://chicago.suntimes.com/columni...ess-gene-lyons

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“A Duty to Warn,” has ever had a session with Trump. Maybe they haven't heard of the Goldwater rule of their profession.

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From the link I posted:

Here’s something psychotherapist Elizabeth Mika wrote in 2017 during Trump’s first week in office:

"What we know about malignant narcissists is that they psychologically decompensate once they achieve the ultimate position of power. They worsen in every possible way: become more grandiose and paranoid, more aggressive and demanding, and progressively less in touch with reality … We can expect his narcissistic rage to intensify in proportion to his increasing grandiosity and paranoia.

“His handlers will have to resort to increasingly more ‘creative’ ways to placate and subdue him — and it will work, for a while, until it doesn’t.“
There’ll be blood, symbolic, if not literal, as he’ll fire and destroy his previously ‘trusted’ associates, maybe even in rapid succession and without any rhyme or reason.

“His demands for adulation will also become more intense and bizarre, and we’ll be witnessing idiotic and quite possibly dangerous displays of his ‘superiority’ … It’s not only that he will never get better, but it is certain that he will get worse.”

(Sound like anyone we know, tomder?)

is that her profession diagnosis of Trump based on having a session with him and he agreeing to her releasing her diagnosis ? Gene Lyons called it a diagnosis . By her own profession's standards what she wrote is unethical .

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It isn't a diagnosis. It's a prediction. And she hit the nail on the head!

And, like Gene mentioned, many psychologists and psychiatrists and mental health professionals are mandated reporters. It isn't required that they've met with the individual.

Trump has been so publicly revealing in his tweets, statements, and driveway pressers that the Goldwater Rule isn't necessary to diagnose him. In any case, the organization that formulated the Rule does not apply to all psychiatrists and is not legally binding.

Here's more from WG's link:

What we know about malignant narcissists is that they psychologically decompensate once they achieve the ultimate position of power. They worsen in every possible way: become more grandiose and paranoid, more aggressive and demanding, and progressively less in touch with reality … We can expect his narcissistic rage to intensify in proportion to his increasing grandiosity and paranoia. “His handlers will have to resort to increasingly more ‘creative’ ways to placate and subdue him — and it will work, for a while, until it doesn’t.“

There’ll be blood, symbolic, if not literal, as he’ll fire and destroy his previously ‘trusted’ associates, maybe even in rapid succession and without any rhyme or reason.

“His demands for adulation will also become more intense and bizarre, and we’ll be witnessing idiotic and quite possibly dangerous displays of his ‘superiority’ … It’s not only that he will never get better, but it is certain that he will get worse.”

Trump’s bizarre antics at the G7 meetings in France were like a fire alarm in the night.

“Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China …”

“Hereby ordered,” no less. Hear that, Apple and General Motors?

Psychiatrists don’t call personality disorders like Trump’s mental illnesses, because there are no known causes or treatments. Only diagnoses. People like him are one of nature’s nasty little tricks, like smallpox and ticks.
And when they get into power, chaos follows. Every single time.

Problem is.... America’s “Vichy Republicans” hold veto power and are paralyzed for fear of their own credulous voters.
This story may not end well.


A perfect description of Trump's behavior.

("Vichy Republicans" - I love it!!)

Excuse the duplication. Had a rough time with the c/p. Anyway, two heads are better than one, I heard.

Look, it is all quite simple, to me: The left has a narrative about anything and anyone who doesn't walk their walk and talk their talk. That narrative was written before Trump ever won the Republican Primary....in other word, the narrative was written and a blank was installed for the name to be inserted later. The left insists on using the same old, tired, and worn out slanders they have used since the 60's: Call your Republican opponent racist, call them, fascist, call them xenophobic, call them cruel, call them anti-poor, call them pro-big business, etc.....this is their playbook and it has had successes over the years. And, there have been some amendments to the playbook, like the weird and fake Russia garbage, but, by and large, it has been consistent. Adding the "psychiatrically questionable" part is something new and it is not going to help them gain any traction. I'm not a Trump sycophant, and there are many areas I am out of tune with him on, but he is going to win reelection again and he should. Why should he win reelection? He should win reelection because his allegiance to the U.S. is unquestionable and his priorities are clearly purposed to the pass-fail test of "IS THIS GOOD FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?" He recognizes that he and the people inhibiting the U.S. are not "Citizens Of The World" but are Citizens Of The United States Of America. I don't know about the rest of you but I grew tired of wondering whether or not my POTUS really loved the U.S. or not....with Trump, there is no question!

Wikipedia even has an entry for "Vichy Republicans":

Vichy Republican was a term first used in 2009 to designate Republicans who sold out on their own party by collaborating with the Democrats against true conservative values and goals^[1]. This term has also since emerged on social media in 2016 in regards to the United States Presidential campaign of Donald Trump but with an opposing definition. It refers to members of the Republican Party who have chosen to support Donald Trump's candidacy due to political expediency rather than genuine agreement with his beliefs or campaign.^[2] The term originates from Vichy France, which was the wartime location of the French government which collaborated with the Axis Powers during the Occupation of France during World War II opposed by the Free France led by Charles de Gaulle.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vichy_Republican

Vacuum7, you commented, "he is going to win reelection again and he should." Haven't you been watching him and listening to him? He doesn't WANT to win reelection!

WG (Wondergirl): I think Trump does want to win again.....I think it is something of an internal calling within him to serve the nation.

All jokes aside, all partisan feelings aside, Trump has been talking about his concerns for the U.S. for a very long time....I think as far back as the late 70's....that is a lot longer than anyone in our current government or those in the field that aspire to become part of our current government....no one can take that away from him. You must also know that many on the left felt there was nothing wrong with Trump for many, many years: Look how many times Oprah has had him on her show.....it has only been different since he announced his candidacy for POTUS.

Speaking to you, WG, as a woman: I know he has had proclivities when it came to women, things about that part of Trump's life that aren't something to be proud of but I can assure you that every man on the planet has some element of that about them and most are able to "keep the beast in chains" and behave...but some aren't able to do it....having faith in God helps but it is up to each individual man to behave and be a man and not reveal the animal that we all can be under the right circumstances....most of how we behave comes from "how" we were raised with respect to how a man should cherish and respect women....I was raised by a Mother and Father who would have beaten the hide off of me if I acted up with women the way I see me treat them today! Its and expectation that you are expected to live up to and most of us do.

Is there a reason why Bill Clinton gets a pass for his numerous "Bimbo Eruptions" (at least one while he WAS POTUS) but Trump gets no such passes? "What Is Good For The Goose Is Good For The Gander!" is the way we should treat anything in life: We must be evenhanded.

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Trump is multiple times a day knocking himself out to let us all know he is so weary of this job and so much wants it to be over with. He wants to drive his own car again and sleep late and play endless golf games and not have to hold Melania's hand when they're together in public. His putting-tariffs-on-China move was the most outrageous, most obvious move to tell us he wants out. Or is he, the Art-of-the-Deal guy, really that clueless as to what the tariffs will do to us (starting tomorrow on many retail products made in China)?

Tomder ----- The American Psychoanalytic Association is hardly malpractice therapy.

Rather than dwell on a rule, why not carefully read what has been written about Trump and decide on its own merits.

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You're incorrect, tomder. Observation is sufficient. Tune in to Dr. Phil weekday afternoons for further enlightenment on mandated reporting. And the professional observation is not "pseudo."

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Are you seriously suggesting appearances on Oprah indicate anything about Trump except his need to be in the spotlight? It is hard to know how to answer such balderdash. Every time I read your posts, I wonder how you could be so completely ignorant of what has been happening in the USA? Oprah is your example? Oprah? She would have Jack the Ripper on if it helped the ratings.

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Speaking to you, WG, as a woman: I know he has had proclivities when it came to women, things about that part of Trump's life that aren't something to be proud of but I can assure you that every man on the planet has some element of that about them and most are able to "keep the beast in chains" and behave...but some aren't able to do it....having faith in God helps but it is up to each individual man to behave and be a man and not reveal the animal that we all can be under the right circumstances....most of how we behave comes from "how" we were raised with respect to how a man should cherish and respect women....I was raised by a Mother and Father who would have beaten the hide off of me if I acted up with women the way I see me treat them today! Its and expectation that you are expected to live up to and most of us do.

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An absolutely incredible paragraph!! Defend Trump because he can't "keep the beast in chains". There is a word for that. You're not helping Trump with such lunacy.

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Let me pose a question for you. Do we give Trump a pass because somebody else got a pass? Does one criminal get off the hook because not all criminals have been brought to justice?

Sorry, but your posts are bordering on the absurd, which is why they bring out such pointed replies.