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one of the 4 horsewomen of the apocalypse has upped the ante ;saying the minimum wage should be $20 /hr . WOW ! What will Bernie's staffers do now !
https://www.newsweek.com/rashida-tla...not-15-1450607
This week at the Dems debates ....."ok ,a show of hands . How many of you agree that the minimum wage should be $20/hr ? "
omg I can't wait ! This will be more entertaining than Mueller's dodging and weaving ,bordering on contempt of Congress.
Why not? If 15 is good, then wouldn't 20 be even better? For that matter, what is wrong is 30 or 40?
Tomder, I think the dems have really discovered something here!! We can all be millionaires if we just raise the minimum wage high enough.
@JL
That was the last election and most of us have moved on to the next one, and DUMP DUFUS is the dem mantra NOW!
@TOM
$20 bucks sounds great! Rich guys would still be rich and poor folks would pay more taxes. WIN/WIN.
Why not thirty? Why not forty?Quote:
$20 bucks sounds great! Rich guys would still be rich and poor folks would pay more taxes. WIN/WIN.
Has your doctor given you the Clock Draw Test lately -- or perhaps the 6CIT (6-item Cognitive Impairment Test)?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
1. What year is it?
2. What month is it now?
3. Please repeat this name and address after me:
John Brown, 42 Market Street, Bristol
(Say three times. Tell them they need to remember this name and address for later.)
4. Without looking at your watch, say what the time is.
5. Count aloud backwards from 20 to 1.
6. Say the months of the year in reverse order.
7. Repeat the name and address that you were asked to remember earlier on in the test.
Well if $20 works well WHY NOT? What has a DECADES of $7.25 gotten us? Let's be clear though the federal minimum wage is the lowest a worker can get, but STATES can set there own, and states are doing exactly that.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
https://www.thebalancecareers.com/pr...m-wage-2062521
I say we just see what the new minimums across the country bring and let's go from there. I realize the affects on not so rich employers may be of critical concerns.
add onto that the free guaranteed income,the free college education ;the free health care for all ;even the thousands of illegals pouring into the country ,
.They are not socialists .they are the Gimmee party of America . Sounds like a winning platform to me .
you are on you way to becoming the first money free economy, everything free
You still haven't explained why we would not raise it to thirty an hour.
Oh aren't you ashamed of yourself for shaming me like that? Like I have said many times. Liberals are forever wanting to be sensitive about what is said about them, but not so much for what is said by them.Quote:
Has your doctor given you the Clock Draw Test lately -- or perhaps the 6CIT (6-item Cognitive Impairment Test)?
But I'll take those tests if you'll take the plain as the nose on your face inference test.
Oh come on guys, the electoral math doesn't favor such an agenda, nor would repubs, even with minority numbers and no WH. You guys are determined to play chicken little during silly season. Go ahead though I am amused.
Yes I did but you wouldn't understand my pragmatism, or why rush too far, too fast. Did you miss this?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
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I say we just see what the new minimums across the country bring and let's go from there. I realize the affects on not so rich employers may be of critical concerns.
I was just giving you back a bit of the "fun" you dish out at me.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Sure -- I LOVE tests!
Well, at least you understand the concept of unintended consequences, even if you don't highly value the concept of personal liberty.Quote:
Yes I did but you wouldn't understand my pragmatism, or why rush too far, too fast. Did you miss this?
I say we just see what the new minimums across the country bring and let's go from there. I realize the affects on not so rich employers may be of critical concerns.
If we go to twenty an hour, what effect on prices do you think that will have? What effect on the employment of low skill workers will it have? What effect on teen jobs will it have? What effect on entry-level positions will it have? What effect will it have on small businesses that are already struggling? How many millions of jobs will it cost?
How convenient for you.Quote:
I was just giving you back a bit of the "fun" you dish out at me.
Well, you'll need a lot of prep for this one. You don't appear to be ready....Kidding!!Quote:
Sure -- I LOVE tests!
Well that attitude left the Dems years ago . When Bernie Sanders is mainstream or not even the most radical socialist alternative then you know your lurch left has gone well past Fabianism principles .Quote:
why rush too far, too fast. Did you miss this?
May I listen to doo wop while I take the test?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I have no idea what "doo wop" is, but if it will help, then go for it.Quote:
May I listen to doo wop while I take the test?
Fabianism, well I haven't heard that one for a while, we will file that one with theQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Ashkenazijews shall we and while we are at it international communism is rampant
I thought you were over 60. Here's a good example:Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VJcGi4-n_Yw
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Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I know what it is. Fantastic selection!
Wanna dance, Athos?Quote:
Originally Posted by Athos
Sure. Do you know the Stomp Trump?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Nope. I'm in a holding pattern of 39.Quote:
thought you were over 60. Here's a good example:
I reserve that for people who think implementing socialism gradually is a new idea. (Fabianism is like boiling a frog slowly as opposed to turning the flames on high .The end result is the frog is still cooked )Quote:
Fabianism, well I haven't heard that one for a while
Yes without the frog jumping outQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Sort of like dragging conservatives into the modern day era of progressive ideas. All that 19/20th century labeling doesn't even apply.
you are the one who does the relabel thingy . "progressive ideas " date back to the mid 19th century . The Dems moved past them years ago . Their gradualism is from a socialist state to full blown Marxist tyranny.
The dufus is the tyrant, and repubs are his sycophants and that's the current state of things with all the rhetoric that goes with it. Sorry Tom, I don't like bullies who want to be strongmen and rule with deceit and lies over scared sheeple.
And once again, the supposedly tolerant, peace-loving liberal takes to name calling. It's funny on this board that the ones who voice such intolerance always come from the liberal side of things.Quote:
The dufus is the tyrant, and repubs are his sycophants and that's the current state of things with all the rhetoric that goes with it.
It is what they do, if you can't have a reasoned debate shout insults and demandsQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Sure seems right.Quote:
It is what they do, if you can't have a reasoned debate shout insults and demands
Wonder why us peace lovin' libs have changed from tolerant debate to chunkin' rocks at right wing heads? It's simple, there is only so much debate with intolerant dismissive conservatives and when that doesn't work...when in Rome, chunk the rocks! Did I warn you to duck? My bad!
I knew it had to be someone else's fault. Taking responsibility is another problem with liberals.Quote:
Wonder why us peace lovin' libs have changed from tolerant debate to chunkin' rocks at right wing heads? It's simple, there is only so much debate with intolerant dismissive conservatives and when that doesn't work...when in Rome, chunk the rocks!
Responsibility, I think I heard of it once long agoQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I take full responsibility for blasting the dufus and his sycophants with relish. Did I warn you to duck? Take it as a courtesy and not a responsibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Well, at least we have managed to find one honest liberal who DOES admit to believing in being intolerant and in name calling.Quote:
I take full responsibility for blasting the dufus and his sycophants with relish. Did I warn you to duck? Take it as a courtesy and not a responsibility.
If by intolerant of BS, yes I am guilty of that. Most of what you're talking about is BS, and has nothing to do with what I am doing so, you do what you can, and I do what I do. Is that fair? Did I tell you to duck? PLEASE don't get between me and the dufus, because that's where I'm chunking my rocks!
Nothing personal my friend, but this IS the LAST warning! You're on your own!!
Another of the "house rules" of liberalism. "It's wrong if you do it, but it's OK if I do it." When it comes to name calling and being disrespectful of those with whom you disagree, you should check to see if it would appear that Mr. Trump and you are brothers in the same fraternity. But you're free to do as you please. As a conservative, I'm just making a tolerant, respectful observation.Quote:
If by intolerant of BS, yes I am guilty of that.
"On my own?" I never thought it was otherwise.
So why is Moscow Mitch stopping legislature to protect us in this cyberwar against countries interfering in our election?
https://www.salon.com/2019/07/26/msn...ussia_partner/
You think legislation protects you?
Words don't but the processes and procedures they set up is better than nothing. Why would you be against that?
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Originally Posted by talaniman
I answered this once but I will try again, I did not say I was against anything but noone needs more legislation, everywhere you go we are buried under it, what is needed is enforcement of the laws that exist. If they are found faulty they can be modified but the idea is we just add more and more words, making it harder to get the job done, It is called obstruction by administration. It is one of the reasons Hitler lost WWII
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