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kudos to Governors Christie and Cuomo and Quinn(NJ .NY ,Ill. ) for instituting this sensible policy of a quarantine for any health care worker returning from treating Ebola patients.
N.Y., N.J., Illinois to impose new Ebola quarantine rules - The Washington Post
Yes some sense there after all
the Army is putting soldiers in isolation in Vicenza, Italy before they return stateside.This includes Maj. Gen. Darryl Williams who was the commander of the U.S. Army in Africa who was replaced this weekend .
Ebola outbreak: U.S. soldiers returning from Liberia placed in isolation in Italy - CBS News
But back home ,the administration put pressure on Governor's Christie and Cuomo to back off their plan. Christie caved and released a healthcare worker ;although she was correct in complaining about the conditions she was being subject to in isolation. Cuomo modified the isolation protocol.
Ebola gets political: Gov. Christie defends quarantine - CNN.com
I have no doubt that the Governors have the legal authority to impose the quarantines.
Meanwhile we now have a 5 year old kid who toured virtually all the affected African nations who has now been admitted to Belleview Hospital in the Bronx with possible Ebola symtoms .
5-year-old boy tested for Ebola in NYC after return from Africa | New York Post
Well Tom after a scare where a west african girl developed symptoms after arrival and was later cleared, Australia has moved to suspend migration applications from affected countries. The point being why should western countries place themselves at risk
What gets me is that 2 states initiated sensible policies and the emperor squashed them in less than 48 hrs. Meanwhile his military is taking the correct and prudent steps . The emperor's theory that this will discourage health care workers from volunteering is insulting to the many of them who have already risked their own lives treating patients .
They know the risks when they go there ? Of all people ,why would they hazard spreading the risk stateside?
The Joint Chiefs of Staff ,and the DOD ,who are sending thousands of troops into the nations affected are saying a 21 day quarantine is warranted . This is evidently another instance where they are at odds with the emperor . The emperor told us that military personnel will have NO direct contact with Ebola patients and yet the command and control thinks a 21day quarantine is prudent . I know of one ship where the sailors were quarantined in San Diego harbor for over 2 months because one of the sailors had come down with avian flu. Now that's cruel .Imagine having to look at the beaches of San Diego for over 2 months ,and not being able to get off your ship.
Personally I think your administration doesn't delegate enough, too many decisions by edict which leads to confusion. If your states have responsibility for local medical issues and I suspect they do then they follow guidelines otherwise you aggregate all treatment into federal hands not just isolated instances. The whole thing is panic in the middle of mid term elections where the issue is being played for political purposes. As far as quaranteed and isolation goes whatever the policy is, but it would seem that isolation shipboard isn't a great policy but hey where are you going to go anyway?
this is one way of decisivly dealing with the situation, stay where you are!
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/28/wo...html?hpt=hp_t2
Ebola crisis: Government to announce plans to help Australian volunteer medical staff fight virus in Africa - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
No doubt this is good news for ebola sufferers but it does increase the risk of spreading the disease with returning volunteers
The virus isn't really that hard to get rid of. Supportive therapy is all that is needed if it is diagnosed in time.
The question does appear to be how to prevent the spread to the virus, large numbers have died in Africa because the virus is easily spread by contact, with the best will in the world 50% of the infected die so it is better to avoid infection. We need this not to be driven by a political cycle, I expect our decision making ties into the G20 Conference just as your ties into your election cycle.
We already know how to stop the spread of Ebola. Its been done before.
This is entertaining... and oh so true:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAz-F1QnyCk
Tal you have all the answers, go and do it
It's already being done Clete, but there seems no be no cure for your fear, and I have tried to tell you to chill but you seem to like running in circles crying about the world coming to an end.
No Tal I have become a passive observer to the behaviour of those who will hasten the demise, my hip and my knee don't allow me to run anymore. Whether you like it or not the world as we know it is coming to an end, we are told how now we will see a 4 degree rise in temperature this century unless we overturn our energy usage and make big changes to our way of life. Meanwhile ancient ideas gain ascendency and we will fight a never ending war with religious nutcases and there are rumblings in the east. Pestilence has been very obvious in the last century and we are continually challenged
Yes that's what the fundamentalists have been saying for centuries. Especially by old men at the end of their lives.Quote:
Whether you like it or not the world as we know it is coming to an end
Example: List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
We'll be fine.
Look karma, would the world we live in today be recognisable for a person who lived two centuries ago, their world came to an end, and ours is coming to an end and future generations will live differently if they overcome the problems we leave them. Apocolypse is not well understood, there are going to be many events spread over time, no doubt we have seen some of them and we will see others.
There are distinctive signs of apocolypse
War, pestilance, pollution, earthquakes, meteorites, they are not all going to rain upon our head in one day, the other signs are wide spread death and destruction.. Now at the moment ebola fits one of the criteria, it may or may not be like the apocolyptic influenza epidemic of the twentieth century but at the moment we are doing as much to spread it as we are to contain it
Harold Camping? Is that you?
If your religious beliefs comfort you then good for you, you can hope for an end because of your faith/promise of a "better" life after this. Meanwhile others are busy solving this issue. I get it that you live in fear, many others don't.
No karma I'm my own person, yes people are solving some issues and making others worse, it is ever so. We have a inability to agree on where our resources should be committed, Faith doesn't enter into it except to take the prophetic warnings seriously. There is a certain sect that thinks it will inherit the Earth, I'm not one of them. I don't live in fear, knowledge isn't fear, fear is doing what you are doing, not wanting to know.
You have faith in humanity, you think they have the ability to solve every problem, but have you noticed? We are entirely reactive, we are not ahead on anything, so every problem takes us by surprise. Progress is purely incrumental, true breakthroughs are rare
seven billion of us and we haven't a clue between us
Speak for yourself. Because you have no clue and choose to be preparing for the end of YOUR world doesn't mean the rest of us are quaking in our boots or giving up on OUR world.
Yep, we have totally different worldviews.Quote:
You have faith in humanity, you think they have the ability to solve every problem, but have you noticed? We are entirely reactive, we are not ahead on anything, so every problem takes us by surprise. Progress is purely incrumental, true breakthroughs are rare
seven billion of us and we haven't a clue between us
Indeed, but remember I have as much hope for the future as you do but I know what the true meaning of "42" is
The fictional answer in a good book series?
No! That's not it, it actually is a piece of hidden wisdom, do the numbers
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