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  • Oct 16, 2013, 09:16 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by earl237 View Post
    When Timothy McVeigh was arrested after the Oklahoma City bombing, he was wearing a shirt with the "tree of liberty" quote, so it's not a good idea to be using it here.

    I may make it my signature . So now someone using a founder's quote is to be censured ?
  • Oct 16, 2013, 09:20 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I don't know how this will play out . Maybe I'm taking the long view of this . Maybe Goldwater got trounced ,and Reagan had to lose to the beltway insider Rockefeller Repubics before he took control of the party and was twice elected . Sometimes a losing battle is worth fighting .
    I know what your side wants... an opposition party that isn't really an opposition party.

    Unlike many, I have no problem with principled opposition, and am fully prepared for it and embrace it. You guys have never given up, and its foolish to expect you to and I fully support your right to fight the good fight.

    Go for it. I am!
  • Oct 16, 2013, 09:22 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I may make it my signature . So now someone using a founder's quote is to be censured ?

    He said its not a good idea, where did you get censure from? No body's doing that.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 10:03 AM
    tomder55
    Rep. McClintock Calls For Americans To Rise Up Against Obama's Un-Constitutional Usurpations - YouTube
  • Oct 16, 2013, 10:20 AM
    NeedKarma
    Everything McClintock says is also true of the republican party as well. The divisiveness is absolute, there is very rarely any working together... ever.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 10:47 AM
    tomder55
    Nope ,the House has done it's job... they have passed many budgets that lie in dust on Harry Reid's shelves . It is the intentional strategy of the Dems to not put their budgets up for votes that has led to the CR and debt crisis . But that was their plan... They have effectively usurped the power of the purse from the House of Reps .
  • Oct 16, 2013, 01:38 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    His rescue of the auto industry was apparently some sort of success, maybe the ACA will work eventually, it takes time and a willingness to make it work, but all he has had in the last three years is negative politics and obstructionism so it is no wonder there isn't a lot to show, excepting an economic recovery that happened despite the job creators and the negativity


    The Auto indistry is bailing right out of here. How is that a success of anykind? Unless of course you happen to be China.


    GM's big plans for China includes more Cadillac models

    General Motors Is Riding High In China--For Now - Forbes

    General Motors Leaves U.S. Workers by the Wayside as it Accelerates Operations in China - Money Morning

    General Motors Leaves U.S. Workers by the Wayside as it Accelerates Operations in China
  • Oct 16, 2013, 01:46 PM
    NeedKarma
    https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/...67556657_n.jpg
  • Oct 16, 2013, 02:12 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    The Auto indistry is bailing right out of here. How is that a success of anykind? Unless of course you happen to be China.


    GM's big plans for China includes more Cadillac models

    General Motors Is Riding High In China--For Now - Forbes

    General Motors Leaves U.S. Workers by the Wayside as it Accelerates Operations in China - Money Morning

    General Motors Leaves U.S. Workers by the Wayside as it Accelerates Operations in China

    Updated 2012-04-25 1:38 PM

    8/19/2012 @ 6:11PM |7,387 views

    By Jason Simpkins, Managing Editor, Money Morning
    May 18, 2009

    More recent news.

    http://www.autonews.com/article/2013...-positive-by-s

    http://autos.aol.com/article/auto-sales-september-2013/

    http://www.businessweek.com/articles...-booming-sales

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...rd-raised.html
  • Oct 16, 2013, 02:16 PM
    speechlesstx
    That's not what he said.

    Quote:

    “Well, David, you know at every stage, my prayer to God is that His will be done,” Cruz insisted. “As it will be.”
    That's entirely different from your pathetic snipe, but feel free to mangle his words and hate on him some more.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 02:29 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    hate on him some more
    I didn't hate on him, I just reported what god said.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 02:30 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I didn't hate on him, I just reported what god said.

    God doesn't lie.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 02:32 PM
    NeedKarma
    Religious types are all nutso.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 02:41 PM
    talaniman
    Ted Cruz Will Not Block Vote On Senate Deal

    On to the next "CRISIS"(?).
  • Oct 16, 2013, 02:44 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post

    And that would be amnesty, then anything else to change the subject from the disaster that is Obamacare.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 02:45 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Religious types are all nutso.

    I see you accepted my invitation.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 02:48 PM
    paraclete
    So God is alive and well and living in the USA? I have a blast for you. That place does not resemble heaven but then you have been serving another god for many years
  • Oct 16, 2013, 02:56 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And that would be amnesty, then anything else to change the subject from the disaster that is Obamacare.

    Nobody expects you to stop squealing repeal. But don't expect a captive audience. I think the hostages are escaping, stay tuned though.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 02:58 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    So God is alive and well and living in the USA? I have a blast for you. That place does not resemble heaven but then you have been serving another god for many years
    The USA has made a mockery of christianity.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 02:58 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Nobody expects you to stop squealing repeal. But don't expect a captive audience. I think the hostages are escaping, stay tuned though.

    It's not about hollering and squealing, it's about manipulating the news cycle.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 03:00 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    The USA has made a mockery of christianity.

    How does Christianity look?

    Now, how does the USA look to the rest of the world by comparison?
  • Oct 16, 2013, 03:23 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    How does Christianity look?

    Now, how does the USA look to the rest of the world by comparison?

    Christianity is not about being pious on Sunday and living like hell for the rest of the week. It is about having consideration for others. Scripture says if you have a problem with your brother settle it before you go to worship God. I think the last week has summed up what the USA looks like to the rest of the world. Squabbling irresponsible children and certainly not a nation that should be considered a world leader
  • Oct 16, 2013, 03:44 PM
    NeedKarma
    Greenie for clete.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 03:58 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post

    So your trying to prove what? They are still running away to China and they are cutting off American workers while selling secrets as part of the deal.

    Walmart can tout success too off the Chinese since they backed away from being a made in America company.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 04:53 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post

    Ted Cruz stood real tall during the last few weeks . Speaker Bonehead did too until the surrender monkey beltway Repubics in the Senate took out their long knives. This vote today is just another punt. Then they will pretend to create another bogus super committee to hash out the differences. But the cards have been dealt .There will be another crisis because the Emperor knows if he creates a crisis , he can extract a total surrender by the beltway Repubics while his flunkie Grima Wormtongue Reid hurls insults at them
  • Oct 16, 2013, 05:00 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Ted Cruz stood real tall during the last few weeks . Speaker Bonehead did too until the surrender monkey beltway Repubics in the Senate took out their long knives. This vote today is just another punt. Then they will pretend to create another bogus super committee to hash out the differences. But the cards have been dealt .There will be another crisis because the Emperor knows if he creates a crisis , he can extract a total surrender by the beltway Repubics while his flunkie Grima Wormtongue Reid hurls insults at them

    You know Tom you sound like a poor looser. Brinkmanship was the looser in this little debacle and there is going to be retribution exacted. Obama didn't create this crisis, Cruz and his cronies did. I expect that in the cigar smoke filled backrooms men in expensive suits told the politicians the facts of life
  • Oct 16, 2013, 05:02 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Obama didn't create this crisis
    bs
  • Oct 16, 2013, 05:05 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    bs

    I note you didn't write that in big print, how come the spellchecker didn't capitalise it, fact is Tom you don't believe that any more than I do
  • Oct 16, 2013, 05:09 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    So your trying to prove what? They are still running away to China and they are cutting off American workers while selling secrets as part of the deal.

    Walmart can tout success too off the Chinese since they backed away from being a made in America company.

    UAW Furious Over New GM Plant in China - Yahoo Voices - voices.yahoo.com

    Quote:

    GM has been opening more and more plants overseas, and in Mexico in an effort to save money. There are many in the UAW that believe that the plants are opening up outside of the United States in an effort to break the Union, and to break GM's reliance on the UAW.

    GM has been showing greater gains in China since they began to sell cars there. Most automotive insiders believe that the Chinese market is the future for the U.S. auto industry. These insiders point to the belief that U.S. automakers will be selling more cars in China in the next few years then in the United States.

    The UAW believes that it should be able to share in this increasing market. The Union believes that UAW members should be making the majority of the parts that go into the Chinese cars. This would insure their future in the automotive industry.

    General Motors believes that most of the Chinese cars and parts should be manufactured in China to ensure more profitability. GM believes that it would be a major hit to profit if it had to pay all of the import costs that would go along with trying to send parts from the United States to China.

    It will be interesting to see how much this plant will play in the upcoming national contractual negotiations between the UAW and GM. Chances are very good that it will play a significant part on both sides of the table.
    Just collecting data for now.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 05:18 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post

    Yeppers, they sure were worth saving and having the tax payers back them.

    General Motors to Build Cadillac Plant in China - Driver's Seat - WSJ


    General Motors Builds 4 New Plants In China by 2015 « Yalla Finance Yalla Finance
  • Oct 16, 2013, 05:38 PM
    talaniman
    It's not just China, and I have seen this movie before with Ford back in the day.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 05:41 PM
    excon
    Hello again, wrong wingers:

    Obama KICKED your a$$, huh? You closed the government for NOTHING.. You caused us to spend $24 BILLION that we didn't have to spend. When are you gonna to STOP shooting yourselves in the foot.. When are you gonna to stop shooting US in the foot?

    excon
  • Oct 16, 2013, 05:52 PM
    talaniman
    Bet all those people who got their finances turned upside down, FOR NOTHING, ain't going to forget who screwed them and why. Keep listening to Ted, Michelle, and Sarah.

    Or better known as the lunatic right wing fringe dufus's.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 06:06 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, wrong wingers:

    Obama KICKED your a$$, huh? You closed the government for NOTHING.. You caused us to spend BILLION that we didn't have to spend. When are you gonna to STOP shooting yourselves in the foot.. When are you gonna to stop shooting US in the foot?

    excon

    Hey Ex have you ever though you might be playing to deaf ears
  • Oct 16, 2013, 06:40 PM
    talaniman
    I will be honest, after hollering about a clean bill through out this crisis, I would be pissed if the senate bill wasn't as clean going to the house as the senate demanded of theirs.

    No, I won't join the TParty, and it's a bi partisan bill 81-18, but I would be pissed.
  • Oct 16, 2013, 07:10 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    The USA has made a mockery of christianity.

    As opposed to what, heathen Canadians?
  • Oct 16, 2013, 07:23 PM
    talaniman
    The world is saved mostly by democrats.

    285-144
  • Oct 16, 2013, 07:49 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    As opposed to what, heathen Canadians?

    As opposed to true chistianity, speech, which is about relationship with Christ, not telling everyone what a great Christian you are while denying help to the needy or making matters worse for your own political gain. It comes down to substance over form.
  • Oct 17, 2013, 03:20 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    Ok, right wingers LOST. But, did they LEARN? I don't think so. You?

    excon
  • Oct 17, 2013, 03:21 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, wrong wingers:

    Obama KICKED your a$$, huh? You closed the government for NOTHING.. You caused us to spend BILLION that we didn't have to spend. When are you gonna to STOP shooting yourselves in the foot.. When are you gonna to stop shooting US in the foot?

    excon

    Yeah Repubics (especially their leadership) are like this dog I have . He bares his teeth and growls .But if he gets stared at his tail wraps beneath his leg ,his ears flop down ,and he rolls over and plays dead.

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