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Originally Posted by earl237

When Timothy McVeigh was arrested after the Oklahoma City bombing, he was wearing a shirt with the "tree of liberty" quote, so it's not a good idea to be using it here.

I may make it my signature . So now someone using a founder's quote is to be censured ?

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Originally Posted by tomder55

I don't know how this will play out . Maybe I'm taking the long view of this . Maybe Goldwater got trounced ,and Reagan had to lose to the beltway insider Rockefeller Repubics before he took control of the party and was twice elected . Sometimes a losing battle is worth fighting .
I know what your side wants... an opposition party that isn't really an opposition party.

Unlike many, I have no problem with principled opposition, and am fully prepared for it and embrace it. You guys have never given up, and its foolish to expect you to and I fully support your right to fight the good fight.

Go for it. I am!

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Originally Posted by tomder55

I may make it my signature . So now someone using a founder's quote is to be censured ?

He said its not a good idea, where did you get censure from? No body's doing that.

Rep. McClintock Calls For Americans To Rise Up Against Obama's Un-Constitutional Usurpations - YouTube

Everything McClintock says is also true of the republican party as well. The divisiveness is absolute, there is very rarely any working together... ever.

Nope ,the House has done it's job... they have passed many budgets that lie in dust on Harry Reid's shelves . It is the intentional strategy of the Dems to not put their budgets up for votes that has led to the CR and debt crisis . But that was their plan... They have effectively usurped the power of the purse from the House of Reps .

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Originally Posted by paraclete

His rescue of the auto industry was apparently some sort of success, maybe the ACA will work eventually, it takes time and a willingness to make it work, but all he has had in the last three years is negative politics and obstructionism so it is no wonder there isn't a lot to show, excepting an economic recovery that happened despite the job creators and the negativity

The Auto indistry is bailing right out of here. How is that a success of anykind? Unless of course you happen to be China.

GM's big plans for China includes more Cadillac models

General Motors Is Riding High In China--For Now - Forbes

General Motors Leaves U.S. Workers by the Wayside as it Accelerates Operations in China - Money Morning

General Motors Leaves U.S. Workers by the Wayside as it Accelerates Operations in China

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Originally Posted by cdad

The Auto indistry is bailing right out of here. How is that a success of anykind? Unless of course you happen to be China.

GM's big plans for China includes more Cadillac models

General Motors Is Riding High In China--For Now - Forbes

General Motors Leaves U.S. Workers by the Wayside as it Accelerates Operations in China - Money Morning

General Motors Leaves U.S. Workers by the Wayside as it Accelerates Operations in China

Updated 2012-04-25 1:38 PM

8/19/2012 @ 6:11PM |7,387 views

By Jason Simpkins, Managing Editor, Money Morning
May 18, 2009

More recent news.

http://www.autonews.com/article/2013...-positive-by-s

http://autos.aol.com/article/auto-sales-september-2013/

http://www.businessweek.com/articles...-booming-sales

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...rd-raised.html

That's not what he said.

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“Well, David, you know at every stage, my prayer to God is that His will be done,” Cruz insisted. “As it will be.”

That's entirely different from your pathetic snipe, but feel free to mangle his words and hate on him some more.

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hate on him some more

I didn't hate on him, I just reported what god said.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I didn't hate on him, I just reported what god said.

God doesn't lie.

Religious types are all nutso.

Ted Cruz Will Not Block Vote On Senate Deal

On to the next "CRISIS"(?).

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Ted Cruz Will Not Block Vote On Senate Deal

On to the next "CRISIS"(?).

And that would be amnesty, then anything else to change the subject from the disaster that is Obamacare.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Religious types are all nutso.

I see you accepted my invitation.

So God is alive and well and living in the USA? I have a blast for you. That place does not resemble heaven but then you have been serving another god for many years

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

And that would be amnesty, then anything else to change the subject from the disaster that is Obamacare.

Nobody expects you to stop squealing repeal. But don't expect a captive audience. I think the hostages are escaping, stay tuned though.

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So God is alive and well and living in the USA? I have a blast for you. That place does not resemble heaven but then you have been serving another god for many years

The USA has made a mockery of christianity.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Nobody expects you to stop squealing repeal. But don't expect a captive audience. I think the hostages are escaping, stay tuned though.

It's not about hollering and squealing, it's about manipulating the news cycle.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

The USA has made a mockery of christianity.

How does Christianity look?

Now, how does the USA look to the rest of the world by comparison?

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

How does Christianity look?

Now, how does the USA look to the rest of the world by comparison?

Christianity is not about being pious on Sunday and living like hell for the rest of the week. It is about having consideration for others. Scripture says if you have a problem with your brother settle it before you go to worship God. I think the last week has summed up what the USA looks like to the rest of the world. Squabbling irresponsible children and certainly not a nation that should be considered a world leader

Greenie for clete.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Updated 2012-04-25 1:38 PM

8/19/2012 @ 6:11PM |7,387 views

By Jason Simpkins, Managing Editor, Money Morning
May 18, 2009

More recent news.

http://www.autonews.com/article/2013...-positive-by-s

Auto Sales Tail Off In September But Outlook Still Good

GM, Ford Reap Rating Upgrades Along With Booming Sales - Businessweek

S&P Approval of GM, Ford Reflects Industry Recovery - Bloomberg

So your trying to prove what? They are still running away to China and they are cutting off American workers while selling secrets as part of the deal.

Walmart can tout success too off the Chinese since they backed away from being a made in America company.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Ted Cruz Will Not Block Vote On Senate Deal

On to the next "CRISIS"(?).

Ted Cruz stood real tall during the last few weeks . Speaker Bonehead did too until the surrender monkey beltway Repubics in the Senate took out their long knives. This vote today is just another punt. Then they will pretend to create another bogus super committee to hash out the differences. But the cards have been dealt .There will be another crisis because the Emperor knows if he creates a crisis , he can extract a total surrender by the beltway Repubics while his flunkie Grima Wormtongue Reid hurls insults at them

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Ted Cruz stood real tall during the last few weeks . Speaker Bonehead did too until the surrender monkey beltway Repubics in the Senate took out their long knives. This vote today is just another punt. Then they will pretend to create another bogus super committee to hash out the differences. But the cards have been dealt .There will be another crisis because the Emperor knows if he creates a crisis , he can extract a total surrender by the beltway Repubics while his flunkie Grima Wormtongue Reid hurls insults at them

You know Tom you sound like a poor looser. Brinkmanship was the looser in this little debacle and there is going to be retribution exacted. Obama didn't create this crisis, Cruz and his cronies did. I expect that in the cigar smoke filled backrooms men in expensive suits told the politicians the facts of life

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Obama didn't create this crisis

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Originally Posted by tomder55

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I note you didn't write that in big print, how come the spellchecker didn't capitalise it, fact is Tom you don't believe that any more than I do

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Originally Posted by cdad

So your trying to prove what? They are still running away to China and they are cutting off American workers while selling secrets as part of the deal.

Walmart can tout success too off the Chinese since they backed away from being a made in America company.

UAW Furious Over New GM Plant in China - Yahoo Voices - voices.yahoo.com

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GM has been opening more and more plants overseas, and in Mexico in an effort to save money. There are many in the UAW that believe that the plants are opening up outside of the United States in an effort to break the Union, and to break GM's reliance on the UAW.

GM has been showing greater gains in China since they began to sell cars there. Most automotive insiders believe that the Chinese market is the future for the U.S. auto industry. These insiders point to the belief that U.S. automakers will be selling more cars in China in the next few years then in the United States.

The UAW believes that it should be able to share in this increasing market. The Union believes that UAW members should be making the majority of the parts that go into the Chinese cars. This would insure their future in the automotive industry.

General Motors believes that most of the Chinese cars and parts should be manufactured in China to ensure more profitability. GM believes that it would be a major hit to profit if it had to pay all of the import costs that would go along with trying to send parts from the United States to China.

It will be interesting to see how much this plant will play in the upcoming national contractual negotiations between the UAW and GM. Chances are very good that it will play a significant part on both sides of the table.

Just collecting data for now.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

UAW Furious Over New GM Plant in China - Yahoo Voices - voices.yahoo.com

Just collecting data for now.

Yeppers, they sure were worth saving and having the tax payers back them.

General Motors to Build Cadillac Plant in China - Driver's Seat - WSJ

General Motors Builds 4 New Plants In China by 2015 « Yalla Finance Yalla Finance

It's not just China, and I have seen this movie before with Ford back in the day.

Hello again, wrong wingers:

Obama KICKED your a$$, huh? You closed the government for NOTHING.. You caused us to spend $24 BILLION that we didn't have to spend. When are you gonna to STOP shooting yourselves in the foot.. When are you gonna to stop shooting US in the foot?

excon

Bet all those people who got their finances turned upside down, FOR NOTHING, ain't going to forget who screwed them and why. Keep listening to Ted, Michelle, and Sarah.

Or better known as the lunatic right wing fringe dufus's.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, wrong wingers:

Obama KICKED your a$$, huh? You closed the government for NOTHING.. You caused us to spend BILLION that we didn't have to spend. When are you gonna to STOP shooting yourselves in the foot.. When are you gonna to stop shooting US in the foot?

excon

Hey Ex have you ever though you might be playing to deaf ears

I will be honest, after hollering about a clean bill through out this crisis, I would be pissed if the senate bill wasn't as clean going to the house as the senate demanded of theirs.

No, I won't join the TParty, and it's a bi partisan bill 81-18, but I would be pissed.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

The USA has made a mockery of christianity.

As opposed to what, heathen Canadians?

The world is saved mostly by democrats.

285-144

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

As opposed to what, heathen Canadians?

As opposed to true chistianity, speech, which is about relationship with Christ, not telling everyone what a great Christian you are while denying help to the needy or making matters worse for your own political gain. It comes down to substance over form.

Hello again,

Ok, right wingers LOST. But, did they LEARN? I don't think so. You?

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, wrong wingers:

Obama KICKED your a$$, huh? You closed the government for NOTHING.. You caused us to spend BILLION that we didn't have to spend. When are you gonna to STOP shooting yourselves in the foot.. When are you gonna to stop shooting US in the foot?

excon

Yeah Repubics (especially their leadership) are like this dog I have . He bares his teeth and growls .But if he gets stared at his tail wraps beneath his leg ,his ears flop down ,and he rolls over and plays dead.