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  • Dec 31, 2012, 12:35 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Are you saying none of these things have happened?

    Preacher Shot Before Church Knife Attack

    Tennessee man charged in Vegas bartender killing - FOX5 Vegas - KVVU

    I could go on, but why keep being ridiculous?

    What's ridiculous is attempting to assign positions to me based on someone else's behavior.
  • Dec 31, 2012, 03:00 PM
    tomder55
    Demand A Plan - Demand Celebrities Go Themselves! - YouTube
  • Jan 1, 2013, 05:28 PM
    paraclete
    That plan isn't necessary Tom it is already in play. Celebrities along with the rest of you have said yes to the plan that you should @#$%yourselves every day. You endorse gun violence, you say they will never take my gun away, what part of cause and effect do you not understand?
  • Jan 1, 2013, 05:37 PM
    tomder55
    Don't be ridiculous .I support gun ownership ;not gun violence. Nor do I glorify it while getting on my platform demanding everyone (except my personal body guard ) surrender their guns.
  • Jan 1, 2013, 05:52 PM
    paraclete
    So you have a personal bodyguard, how is that working out for you? A great waste of money no doubt. I don't need a personal bodyguard because certain weapons are prescribed, and as a result gun violence is confined to the criminal classes who take great delight in slaughtering each other

    We have not had a political assassination attempt in this country in many decades
  • Jan 1, 2013, 06:15 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    so you have a personal bodyguard, how is that working out for you?
    Try to keep up .I was talking about the hypocrite Hollywierd crowd.
  • Jan 1, 2013, 07:50 PM
    paraclete
    You really need to let me know when you're in sarcasm mode. Celebrities have bodyguards for reasons other than violent attack by members of the gun toting public
  • Jan 1, 2013, 10:37 PM
    talaniman
    The ban is for army guns and the clips over 10 shots to the general public. You will still have more than enough guns for fun, and personal protection.
  • Jan 1, 2013, 10:40 PM
    paraclete
    Indeed but let's hope no more massacres
  • Jan 2, 2013, 05:24 AM
    tomder55
    That may or may not be the ban. Biden hasn't convened yet .FrankenFeinstein and Andrew Cuomo are talking confiscation.
  • Jan 2, 2013, 05:40 AM
    paraclete
    Confiscation it is then
  • Jan 2, 2013, 05:40 AM
    tomder55
    Good luck with that
  • Jan 2, 2013, 05:46 AM
    paraclete
    It is your people who are proposing it, I guess the fiscal cliff must have brought reason in other areas
  • Jan 2, 2013, 05:48 AM
    tomder55
    Who is "your people " ? Feinstein and Cuomo are Dems .
  • Jan 2, 2013, 05:49 AM
    paraclete
    No Tom americans, you remember them, the other 47%
  • Jan 6, 2013, 07:59 PM
    cdad
    Thought I would drop this here.

    Assault Rifle vs. Sporting Rifle - YouTube
  • Jan 6, 2013, 09:20 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    Thought I would drop this here.

    Assault Rifle vs. Sporting Rifle - YouTube

    Thank's dad that video proves why semi-automatic weapons should be banned, not just high load magazines but the weapon itsself. There is no reason why you need to fire multiple shots in that manner. It was demonstrated that you could fire 80 shots a minute.

    If you have a sporting rifle with a small load magazine you don't need more fire power.
    The video also demonstrated a case for recall of all large load magazines in the community
  • Jan 6, 2013, 09:28 PM
    talaniman
    Big difference between urban and rural. I see no function for either rifles in a city.
  • Jan 6, 2013, 10:49 PM
    paraclete
    Well you do have sporting shooters in a city, but your case is well made, they are undoubtedly a minority, depending upon what your regard as sport, no doubt the gang gbangers think it is sport to do a drive by. The most recent shooting just shows the whole thing is out of hand and sporting shooters should see that the responsible action is to get on side with the community and do what it takes to make everyone safe. So what if they are a little inconvienced, having to reload their magazine more often. No one should have high load magazines or be allowed more than one magazine on their person. It isn't just automatic fire that makes a weapon the equivalent of a military weapon, it is calibre, rapid fire, and the ability to put a lot of shots on a target.
  • Jan 7, 2013, 08:36 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Big difference between urban and rural. I see no function for either rifles in a city.

    You can't see why someone like a judge that's put hundreds of people behind bars that just got outed on a map for being a registered gun owner by an irresponsible newspaper with an agenda might need an AR-15 or better, a shotgun for protection? Or how about that battered woman that finally got away whose name and address just went public? Naw, you can never see a need for anything like that eh?
  • Jan 7, 2013, 08:57 AM
    talaniman
    Don't blame me for the actions of others since I have never condoned those public outings. That's what you say when you get blamed for the right wing actions you haven't condoned.
  • Jan 7, 2013, 09:04 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Quote:

    whose name and address just went public?
    Nahhh... It already WAS public.

    I don't know what your problem is with the 1st Amendment. The newspaper had an absolute right to print what it did.

    Oh, that's right you LOVE the 1st Amendment... Or you don't, I can't tell.

    Excon
  • Jan 7, 2013, 09:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Nahhh... It already WAS public.

    I dunno what your problem is with the 1st Amendment. The newspaper had an absolute right to print what it did.

    Oh, that's right you LOVE the 1st Amendment... Or you don't, I can't tell.

    excon

    Used to be you were for exercising your rights responsibly. That's OK, I expected you to keep defending this absolutely irresponsible thing to do. And that abused woman that thought she was safe, I'll tell her it's YOU waging the war on her.
  • Jan 7, 2013, 09:23 AM
    tomder55
    Now the Journal News has to hire armed guards... aint that poetic justice ? Any gangbanger in my neighborhood now knows who has guns in their house .
  • Jan 7, 2013, 10:13 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Any gangbanger in my neighborhood now knows who has guns in their house .
    So is that the environment you live in, if you don't have a gun you live in fear of being robbed or killed?
  • Jan 7, 2013, 10:15 AM
    talaniman
    LMAO, whileI can't go along with publishing some things in newspapers, newspapers have a right to publish stuff, be it true or NOT true, just as you have a right to bear arms so what's the problem?

    Maybe you think your rights are better than anyone else's?
  • Jan 7, 2013, 10:18 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    So is that the environment you live in, if you don't have a gun you live in fear of being robbed or killed?

    The police will show up to take the body count.
  • Jan 7, 2013, 10:19 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    LMAO, whileI can't go along with publishing some things in newspapers, newspapers have a right to publish stuff, be it true or NOT true, just as you have a right to bear arms so whats the problem?

    Maybe you think your rights are better than anyone elses?

    I'm not questioning their right to publish .So long as they don't complain that their names and addresses are also published.

    Of course the women who has a gun to protect against a former abusive spouse now has that information public . But why should you care about that ? Why does the same left complain when the name of a rapist is published when the rapists move into a neighborhood ?
  • Jan 7, 2013, 10:30 AM
    talaniman
    A gang banger with computer skills doesn't need to read a newspaper. Nor do abusive exes. Evildoers are opportunity's just like capitalists and hunters.

    Watched another zombie movie last night, and a shotgun ain't enough. Works good on burglars. But I would hate to have a principle show up at a campus fight with an assault weapon locked and loaded.

    More cops and social workers, doctors, nurses, and less people going to gun shows in Texas, Florida, and Connecticut and buying more than on hunting rifle.

    Sad when drugs and guns are the easiest things in America to get. Supply and demand though, true capitalism. MO' MONEY.

    Should guns be easier than Sudafeds to get?
  • Jan 7, 2013, 10:37 AM
    tomder55
    Putnam County disagrees .
    http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/a...ermit-database
  • Jan 7, 2013, 10:40 AM
    tomder55
    I want the names and addresses of the guards the Journal News hired to protect their offices.
  • Jan 7, 2013, 10:43 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    the police will show up to take the body count.
    Jesus, what a violent sh!thole you live in - no offense.
  • Jan 7, 2013, 10:45 AM
    tomder55
    And I live in a safe neighborhood... The police showed up 27 bodies later in Connecticut .
  • Jan 7, 2013, 10:47 AM
    NeedKarma
    Good luck with your fight to have more guns everywhere. I'd rather just avoid all that. That's why many of us are foregoing vacationing in the US.
  • Jan 7, 2013, 10:59 AM
    tomder55
    Here is the comparative crime rates in 2003... Unless this trend reversed ,it looks like Canada is at least as violent a place to be as the US on a per-capita basis.

    2003, the violent crime rate in the United States was 475 per 100,000 people; while up north, there were 963 violent crimes per 100,000 people. The figure for sexual assault in Canada per 100,000 people was more than double that of the United States: 74 as opposed to 32.1; and the assault rate in Canada was also more than twice that of the states: 746 to America's 295 for the people.

    Sexual assault in Canada per 100,000 people was more than double that of the United States: 74 as opposed to 32.1; and the assault rate in Canada was more than twice that of the United States: 746 to America's 295.

    http://www.saf.org/viewoe.asp?id=174
  • Jan 7, 2013, 11:01 AM
    talaniman
    I want the names and addresses of the guards the Journal News hired to protect their offices.

    RGA Investigations & Security

    Just call and ask.
  • Jan 7, 2013, 11:02 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Good luck with your fight to have more guns everywhere. I'd rather just avoid all that. That's why many of us are foregoing vacationing in the US.

    I'd just as soon you stayed home.
  • Jan 7, 2013, 11:24 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I want the names and addresses of the guards the Journal News hired to protect their offices.

    RGA Investigations & Security

    Just call and ask.

    No ,I want them published . I could've looked up the gun registry for an individual without the Journal News help. In this case they published everyone and an interactive map where they lived.
  • Jan 7, 2013, 11:26 AM
    tomder55
    I got a better idea. Since the Journal News thinks that gun free zones makes us safe .They should lead by example and declare their office areas gun free zones and get rid of the armed security .
  • Jan 7, 2013, 11:51 AM
    speechlesstx
    Or they can go staff the prisons where guards are being told by inmates they know where they live.

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