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So why are your feathers ruffled over spending in Arkansas?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Most of the states are still sitting on that stimulus money or have spend it to pay bills (or line pockets). President Obama's mistake was to hand out the stimulus money with no parameters. He trusted the states and banks to do the right thing.
Why is there any need for a rest stop between Memphis and West Memphis, articularly when the road is crumbling. It's been patched so many times it looks like a quilt. The priority is obvious. But hey, Obama got another sign up showing all he's done for America.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
a) I don't have any feathers to ruffle, it's an example of misplaced priorities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
B Federal dollars, that comes from me and you.
Misspent by the state.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
And that makes it all better how?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
No one can blame President Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
He takes credit and wants to do it again so he deserves to share the blame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
... as do we for not holding the states and banks accountable.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
You don't have enough facts for blame or credit because you have not given any to details of why the road is bad, for how long, or if they plan on doing anything about it.
You are the one that keeps hollering about fixing roads and such, I'm just pointing out why "stimulus" is a waste.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Which parts? The tax cuts? The building programs? Or the money to keep teachers and fire fighters, and police?
It gave states two years to make some adjustments. What, they should have been allowed to nose dive when the finances crashed or what?
Where would the states be without it? Funny how you think states don't rate government help during a crisis, but all those republicans hollering the stimulus was a failure have taken credit for the money their state got, and asked for more of it, including Paul Ryan, and the Texas state legislature. Oklahoma benefited greatly too, as I pointed out already.
Oh that's right, we should have let the states fall flat on their faces!! You still have your tax break don't you? Give it back like you told that rich guy to.
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I would think that talking about misplaced priorities and stimulus money being wasted on the wrong projects supports the idea that the state is responsible. This is provided that the state is responsible for deciding on where the money is to be spent.
It would still be a misplaced priority on the part of the state regardless of where the money came from.
Tut
Now I don't know all the specifics of the stimulus, but typically the feds/congress grant money for projects on request... quite often pork. The state says "we want a rest area" and the feds say yes or no.
Both are responsible. The state for wanting something unnecessary while infrastructure crumbles, the feds for going along with it. We need the road, the private sector has taken care of the restrooms... they often even advertise them so you'll know where they are. Stop in, maybe spend a few bucks and contribute to the economy while providing government revenue to fix the road. Or waste on more pork projects.
From your explanation seems like something is a little mixed up, federal government getting down and dirty in the detail of local projects. You know what I think is the problem you have too many representatives of the people, too many congress men who have to satisfy someone that they have done something which can be tangibly measured at a local level, all the while competing with the state and local governments for attention. What you need to do is fatten the pig before cutting up the pork and I would say that is what stimilus is; a nice fat pig being carved up at the BBQ. Build some more highways to nowhere, bridge some ravines, not much original thinking there, but it does get people working, where just filling in the potholes is so unexcitingQuote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
As I mentioned in another thread last week, some black congresswomen had a hissy fit over McCain, Graham - and the lovely Kelly Ayotte - picking on poor Susan Rice and objecting to the idea of her as Secretary of State. Here we go again, in spite of zero evidence Republicans just don't like black people or something...
If she was duped into being the face of the administration's Benghazi lie what does that say about her competence?Quote:
RICHARD WOLFFE: I think it's Susan Rice. There is the question about John Kerry. But I think now that John McCain has sunk his teeth in, he's made it about presidential authority, and, frankly, it's outrageous that there is this witch hunt going on the right about these people of color, let's face it, around this president. Eric Holder, Valerie Jarrett, now Susan Rice. Before it was Van Jones. This is not about who is hawkish in the same way John McCain is about foreign policy because if you look at Iran and Libya, Susan Rice checks those boxes. This is a personal vendetta. It's about presidential authority.
MATTHEWS: So, you think McCain is being-- McCain and people like Lindsey Graham, McCain, who had his own daughter attacked, was accused of having an illegitimate child when, in fact, he adopted a young girl from South Asia. You're saying that McCain's being driven by racial prejudice here?
WOLFFE: There is no other way to look at this because look at her foreign policy and by the way, Look at what John McCain said about Condi Rice's nomination. We're running this story on the front page of the MSNBC website right now. Back then– four years-- eight years ago, John McCain said the people -- the Democrats who were questioning Condi Rice's credentials they were engaged with bitter innocence, they needed to move on. Why has he changed his tune? What is it about Susan Rice? And the answer is there aren't any good foreign policy explanations for it.
If she went out and lied knowingly what does that say about her character?
And by the way, she seems to have had more than a few issues looking the other way from atrocities committed in Africa.
Susan Rice: Benghazi May Be Least of Her Problems
Maybe those are some foreign policy issues worth examining Mr. Wolffe.
P.S. Did you know the vast majority of blacks refused to vote for the white guy? That can't be because they all agree with Obama's policies can it?
Add to that the Democrat Congressional campaign made it a point to target Republican minority and women candidates . I regret the losses ,especially the seats lost by Nan Heyworth and Alan West.
Susan Rice's nomination (if it's even advanced at this point) is DOA . From what I've heard ,she stepped on lots of folks on her way up the ladder... including giving the one finger salute to Richard Holbrooke... including deserting the Clintoon camp and making less than complimentary comments on Evita's foreign policy positions ;and mocking McCain during one of his trips to Iraq. She pissed off the Europeans by being openly critical of the sanctions against Iran. She has openly and aggressively confronted the Russians over their position over Syria .The Russians are openly campaigning for JF Kerry to be the new Sec State .
This flap over Benghazi is the cherry on top . She knows that she gave false info on the attack ;and still clings to the narrative. She should be hauled into Congress and made to give testimony under oath to determine if she knowingly lied ;or was fed a false narrative.
Yep, that's how much they really think of minorities and women, they'd rather have two white guys than Heyworth and West.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
This racist narrative is just beginning, Rep. James Clyburn criticized a letter that 97 House Republicans sent urging Obama not to appoint Rice as being loaded with dog whistles.
Give it a rest people, I'm about ready to shove your race cards down your throat.
It will work too. The President set up a scenario where he now has no choice but to advance her nomination ;and ANYONE who opposes it for any reason will be attacked for being racist and waging war on women ;even if there are real questions about her suitability for the position of Sec State.
And once again the American people will be worse off for it.
Look what the people whining about pickong on a black woman who is dumb as a stump...
Gee I see how respectful they were to Sarah Palin... and look what they did to Herman Cain... which ammounted to outright Libal and Slander...
I guess you have to be the RIGHT Black person or the RIGHT woman to be treated with respect.
I have seen NOTHING that indicates Rice is qualified to be a housekeeper... much less Secreatary of anything.
Clearly he has picked the wrong black woman named Rice, it''s so hard to get good help these days
He indeed is considering the wrong Rice for Sec State.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Rather odd... no rather typical that they'd claim Republicans are racist for opposing one black Rice after they gave the country the first two black Secretaries of State.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I don't think McCain or Graham or republicans in general are racists, and it doesn't matter since clearly they are trying to poke the democratic president in the eye for political leverage for personal reasons after their southern strategy failed miserably.
Lol the vast majority of you Congressional contingent comes from a select few states ;yet you call the Repubics a regional party.
Sure we discussed it, and no minds were changed, or facts acknowledged by any side. Just becaue you and Tom have reached a conclusion, others have NOT!
The houe has no vote on confirmations, and two right wing big-mouths may NOT have the pull to stop her. IF she is nominated. The rights whole conspiracy theory has been factually debunked by the CIA but who believes them?
Facts have never been a reason for the right wingers to believe the way they do. Probably never will be. Got it!
You can't reach a conclusion if refuse to allow the discussion. That's the Alinsky Rule # 12 tactic to avoid having the discussion and get your way, "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Odd how when it happens to a white person its not racism.. but if it's a black person it is... Obama gets 90+% of the black vote isn't racism... but if Romney gets 90+% of the white vote it is...
Hmmm. Condoleeze Rice, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas?
Actually its more like a Liberal / Conservative thing. Liberals are free to do anything... Conservatives are free to do nothing.
Doesn't that sound exactly like Fox News?Quote:
That's the Alinsky Rule # 12 tactic to avoid having the discussion and get your way, "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
ZZZZZzzzzzzzQuote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Good night LOL.
You are right about the House ;and the Dems pulling the race card has probably intimidated the Senate Repubics .Quote:
The houe has no vote on confirmations, and two right wing big-mouths may NOT have the pull to stop her. IF she is nominated. The rights whole conspiracy theory has been factually debunked by the CIA but who believes them?
Nothing has been debunked . If anything the hearings have proven that the WH is involved in a cover-up . Latest victim is Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper... who lied in testimony .
Good thing the right is always alert and ready to point out the truth... about everything except the rights plot to rule the world.
In WaterGate nobody died... in LibyaGate 4 Americans died. Its clear which one is far more serious and in need of doing something... based on the stink the lefties made over a very minor thing a long time ago.
So it your turn to make a stink? What a lousy excuse for politicizing the death of citizens and public servicemen in a dangerous part of the world.
4 people died... maybe you would think it was something big if one or more of those four were related to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
THe coverup and the lies from the WHitehouse are reprehensible because we could have had people there HOURS before it was over... We have rapid reaction forces stationed in Sicily what train for this sort of thing... it was a 45 minute helicopter flight... Jets could have been there providing air support MUCH faster.
Obama is Liberals like YOU is WHO politicized this... in fact.. this is an Act of war... It was Political in nature when the first shot was fired at our Enassy/Consulate under international rules of war.
If killing an American Ambassodor... a political appointed figure isn't Political.. then NOTHING is.
Its uterly disgusting that Democrats actually DEFEND the Inaction from the Whitehouse... and the fact they LIED about it for over 2 weeks straight.
And the fact that THe Whitehouse AND the Dept of State refused to beef up security in such a Dangerous part of the world on the anniversery of 9/11 when EVERY government facility and major US interests abroad have hightened alerts only makes this more disgusting... thats the ONE day of the year that terrorists celibrate over every other...
Your outrage and logistical skills look good on paper, but mean nothing except you know nothing of which you speak.
A fancy way of dismissing your opinion. But well said by the next candidate to best represent the loony right wing.
Outrageous!!
Ok Smoothy It was an act of war, but one more shot in the War on Terror, this isn't a new war but an old one, the theatre keeps shifting, now it is saharan Africa, and the resolve of the players is undiminished. It seems that because OBL, Saddam and Gaddafi are out of the way, someone thinks they can relax, but you are never going to be able to relax on 9/11 whileever one Islamist remains alive
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