Ask Me Help Desk - The war on women

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Originally Posted by talaniman

To be more specific, the right wing gop war is with everybody that's not in lock step with them/you.

Oh come on Tal, your side hammers and hammers and hammers and every time we give ground on something you call us hypocrites - then demand more. That's bullsh*t.

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That's why you only recognize when YOU are being attacked.

Really? Both sides attack, it's been that way since the earliest days of our republic. I speak for my side and you speak for yours, and if the attack is unfair then I'll be more than happy to join you. Media Matters totally took Malkin's comments out of context ( no surprise), she was commenting on the "cheesy stage-managing" of the White House and the compliant press.

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So your attack on Laura Bush can be seen as a joke too, or opinion, take your pick.

"Leading the charge of “The 22,” as we shall call them, is Sonia Pressman Fuentes, co-founder of the National Organization for Women, who described her reaction upon reading that Bush was being honored as “a sudden onset of Alzheimer’s.”

Well, at least she didn’t say the vapors.

“I couldn’t believe my eyes,” she said. “It’s not partisan. I’m not complaining that she’s a Republican.” (Snowe, after all, is a Republican.) “I’m complaining that she’s never done anything for women to get this award.”

That's no joke. Does Mrs. Bush deserve that or has she earned the honor she's about to receive? Simple question, why won't anyone answer it?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

That's no joke. Does Mrs. Bush deserve that or has she earned the honor she's about to receive? Simple question, why won't anyone answer it?

Ok, I'll answer it. From what I have read she sounds like a very worthy recipient.

Tut

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Originally Posted by TUT317

Ok, I'll answer it. From what I have read she sounds like a very worthy recipient.

Tut

Indeed she is, thanks Tut.

Hello again,

Iowa Radio Host Says Nuns Should Be “Pistol Whipped”; GOP Congressman Laughs.

Nuns are women too.

excon

43 Catholic organizations that filed lawsuits against the Obama administration,and we are supposed to take the position of a handful of rogue nuns as a mass protest by Catholics against the Ryan Budget ?

No ,they shouldn't be pistol whipped . They should be ridiculed... perhaps as vigorously as the left mockingly satirized traditional Catholic nuns.

Btw ,the nuns on the bus are also protesting the doctrinal assessment of the LCWR by the Vatican... which basically gave them a smack down over their beliefs.

Carol Marin had a terrific column in today's Chicago Sun-Times:

Nuns under fire take to the road - Chicago Sun-Times

I especially liked, "And so the bishops are on their own two-week road trip called a Fortnight of Freedom to argue that their religious liberty is under attack by the Obama administration.

The difference in tone between the nuns and bishops is striking. While the sisters are raising issues of people living on the margins, the bishops are protesting what they view as an assault on their authority."

And

"It helps to remember that Joan of Arc was declared a heretic and burned at the stake before the church declared her a saint. And in October, Pope Benedict XVI will canonize Sister Hildegard of Bingen, whom a bishop once ex-communicated."

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Carol Marin had a terrific column in today's Chicago Sun-Times:

Nuns under fire take to the road - Chicago Sun-Times

I especially liked, "And so the bishops are on their own two-week road trip called a Fortnight of Freedom to argue that their religious liberty is under attack by the Obama administration.

The difference in tone between the nuns and bishops is striking. While the sisters are raising issues of people living on the margins, the bishops are protesting what they view as an assault on their authority."

and

"It helps to remember that Joan of Arc was declared a heretic and burned at the stake before the church declared her a saint. And in October, Pope Benedict XVI will canonize Sister Hildegard of Bingen, whom a bishop once ex-communicated."

Good column, but unfair to compare the two issues. Each is legitimate in its own way.

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Originally Posted by Athos

Good column, but unfair to compare the two issues. Each is legitimate in its own way.

Hello A:

Here's the difference.. There's no left wing group calling for the bishops to get roughed up.

excon

Technically Hildegard of Bingen had a sentence of interdict ;not excommunication . It is different from excommunication in that the person is not kicked out of the church . But the same restrictions on celebrating and receiving the sacraments apply as excommunication.

She appealed and eventually had the interdict removed .

I'm sure all of you thought Mickelson was being serious. An unfortunate choice of words but he was no doubt joking, unlike the misogynists on the left.

Hello again, Steve:

So, I could tell a JOKE about blowing John Bohener away, and that would be OK. Of course, if somebody DID it, I could always claim it wasn't my fault.. It was a JOKE.

excon

Funny how NK likes to pretend I'm the one who is oversensitive around here yet you guys get your panties in a wad over a guy who was obviously not being serious. When you get upset over the routine misogyny from the left, we can talk.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

So, I could tell a JOKE about blowing John Bohener away, and that would be OK. Of course, if somebody DID it, I could always claim it wasn't my fault.. It was a JOKE.

Excon

At least he didn't want to strap on some explosives and put the president and Mrs. Bush, the Cheneys "and anybody else that can fit" into his explosive "love hug."

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Maurice Sendak may have been even wilder than his "wild things."

In one of the children's book author's last interviews before he died of a stroke in May, Sendak said he thought about trying to assassinate former President George W. Bush and former Vice President Cheney.

"Bush was president, I thought, 'Be brave. Tie a bomb to your shirt. Insist on going to the White House. And I want to have a big hug with the vice president, definitely. And his wife, and the president, and his wife, and anybody else that can fit into the love hug,'" Sendak told The Comics Journal's founder Gary Groth in an interview that will be published in the magazine's next edition.

"And then we'll blow ourselves up, and I'd be a hero," Sendak continued.

"It would have been a very brave and wonderful thing," said Sendak, who wrote the whimsical "Where the Wild Things Are."

No wonder children are viciously taunting bus monitors.

The logic of the pro-choice crowd just defies logic. Notoriously pro-choice Mayor Bloomberg wants to lock up baby formula in NY hospitals.

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Mayor Bloomberg pushing NYC hospitals to hide baby formula so more new moms will breast-feed

The nanny state is going after moms.

Mayor Bloomberg is pushing hospitals to hide their baby formula behind locked doors so more new mothers will breast-feed.

Starting Sept. 3, the city will keep tabs on the number of bottles that participating hospitals stock and use — the most restrictive pro-breast-milk program in the nation.

Under the city Health Department’s voluntary Latch On NYC initiative, 27 of the city’s 40 hospitals have also agreed to give up swag bags sporting formula-company logos, toss out formula-branded tchotchkes like lanyards and mugs, and document a medical reason for every bottle that a newborn receives.

While breast-feeding activists applaud the move, bottle-feeding moms are bristling at the latest lactation lecture.

“If they put pressure on me, I would get annoyed,” said Lynn Sidnam, a Staten Island mother of two formula-fed girls, ages 4 months and 9 years. “It’s for me to choose.”

Sorry Lynn, choice is so yesterday.

In the same way that the Westboro Baptist Church does not represent all christians, this Bloomberg guy does not represent all pro-choice people.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

The logic of the pro-choice crowd just defies logic. Notoriously pro-choice Mayor Bloomberg wants to lock up baby formula in NY hospitals.

Sorry Lynn, choice is so yesterday.

So you are a conservative TP that's favors choice? Or did I miss the joke?

Geeze ,you would think the mom was trying to feed the baby a Big Gulp !

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

In the same way that the Westboro Baptist Church does not represent all christians, this Bloomberg guy does not represent all pro-choice people.

Did I say he does? No I did not. But you're right in this case, the bulk of the "pro-choice crowd" (translation: abortion activists) is far less tolerant than Bloomberg.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma:
In the same way that the Westboro Baptist Church does not represent all christians, this Bloomberg guy does not represent all pro-choice people.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Did I say he does?

Yes you did when you said :

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

The logic of the pro-choice crowd just defies logic.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

the bulk of the "pro-choice crowd" (translation: abortion activists)

The "pro-life" crowd (mother killers) ain't so smart.

Wait, wasn't it just this morning you were whining about insults being tossed around? I knew you couldn't refrain from throwing bombs yourself, it's just who you are.

But mother killers and insulting their intelligence? Wow, you're really wading in the cesspool now. I'm sure your kids would be proud of you.

Satire, learn about it. :-)

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Satire, learn about it. :-)

Ain't that ironic. Bwa ha ha!

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Originally Posted by tomder55

geeze ,you would think the mom was trying to feed the baby a Big Gulp !

But not from a 40oz cup because those have been banned already :)

Hello again,

The NON existent war on women continues...

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A new Republican spending proposal revives some of the more extreme attacks on women’s health and freedom that were blocked by the Senate earlier in this Congress. The resurrection is part of an alarming national crusade that goes beyond abortion rights and strikes broadly at women’s health in general.

Or, you can pretend it's not happening, and the moon is made of green cheese.

Excon

A NY Times editorial is not gospel.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

A NY Times editorial is not gospel.

Hello again, Steve;

Their OPINION may not be gospel, but their reporting is.

Now, you can PRETEND the right wing lawmakers AREN'T doing what they're doing, if you like. But, the REST of us live here on Earth..

excon

All this amounts to is you guys on the left just take issue with anyone having values other than your own, such as not wanting to use my tax dollars to kill babies and expecting people to be responsible for themselves whenever reasonably possible.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

All this amounts to is you guys on the left just take issue with anyone having values other than your own,

OMG, we're like two peas in a pod, I said almost the same thing: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ml#post3215551

We are nothing alike and the only thing similar in our posts is what I said both times.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

We are nothing alike

Thank you, that made my day. :D

Hello again,

Well, no wonder right wingers are against an exception for rape.. They think a woman's body "shut's down", and she can't get pregnant... Apparently, Congressman Todd Aikin, of Mo. Believes there's really no sensible reason for abortions to ever take place, except if the shutdown functions fail, then she should tough it out.

What is Steve fond of saying?? You can't make this stuff up.

excon

Definitely an uninformed statement.
So tell me ;does the President still believe in infanticide when a baby has survived the abortion procedure ?

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Originally Posted by tomder55

So tell me ;does the President still believe in infanticide when a baby has survived the abortion procedure ?

No.

Do you still beat your wife?

There is legislation in Illinois that backs up my claim about the President .

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

No

So when did he change his mind?

Links to Barack Obama’s votes on Illinois’ Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Maybe you should read what he actually said as opposed to what your right-wing blogs say that you think: http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcrip...2/ST033001.pdf

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Maybe you should read what he actually said as opposed to what your right-wing blogs say

Hello again, NK:

If anything is abundantly clear here, it's that Republicans DON'T want to hear what someone ACTUALLY said...

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, NK:

If anything is abundantly clear here, it's that Republicans DON'T want to hear what someone ACTUALLY said...

excon

I distinctly heard Obama say " If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen." Context or not that was a stupid and insulting line. Deal with it.

I distinctly heard Joe Biden say "they gon' put y'all back in chains!" That was stupid, insulting, condescending, racist thing to say. Indefensible, too.

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Originally Posted by excon

If anything is abundantly clear here, it's that Republicans DON'T want to hear what someone ACTUALLY said...

Hello again,

What is ALSO abundantly clear here, is that right wingers have NO idea how a woman's body works. I'll bet they were home schooled.

Republicans should be PREVENTED from EVER legislating issues on women's health.. Because when they do, they get it WRONG!

excon