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All a result of corrupt public officials compounded over decades. Not a result of a lazy people in general. Most LAZY people aren't in the third world, they walk among us here in ours.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Rather than staying home and fighting to solve their own problems their coming here and violating OUR laws does nothing to fix their problems at home.
Indeed . Emigration to the United States is a safety valve to the nations that do not practice free enterprise . The bonus for the corrupt and inefficient nations is that the remittances become an important revenue source. Mexico for one encourages these population migrations as the remittances are as large a revenue source as the national oil trade.Quote:
Rather than staying home and fighting to solve their own problems their coming here and violating OUR laws does nothing to fix their problems at home.
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Originally Posted by adthern
Maybe not in your area but I have investigated malpractice claims, particularly one where someone in the ER was advised to go to a County hospital due to the lack of health insurance - and died on the way.
It shouldn't happen but - like a lot of other things - it does.
In case you haven't seen it, here's The majority of the U.S. Congress giving a standing-O to Mexico's president for criticizing Arizona's immigration law:
Among those standing in applause were Eric Holder and Janet Napolitano, who didn't bother to read the law before voicing their own criticisms. Apparently this Congress and this administration have no shame, and of course neither does Calderon. Whose flagellation are they going to cheer next in our own House chamber, Castro?
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I share their viewpoint. I'm not ashamed of it. I'm actually kind of proud of it. After all, I'm on the side of right, and good, and Americanism. Your side is the one who should be ashamed.
It's good to hear that, had I been making a speech before congress espousing my views, they would have given ME a standing ovation too.
But, your outrage perplexes me. You and your leaders don't criticize other nations laws? No? Not even European nations? Really? Dude!
excon
I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I know, I must be racist for thinking we should protect our borders, detest human trafficking and discourage slave labor.Quote:
After all, I'm on the side of right, and good, and Americanism. Your side is the one who should be ashamed.
I've never been invited to dump on them in their own legislative house as president of the country responsible for the problem whose solution I'm criticizing.Quote:
But, your outrage perplexes me. You and your leaders don't criticize other nations laws? No? Not even European nations? Really? Dude!
Really... explain how and where in any US document that forgeign nationals are allowed to enter our country, violate our laws... kill our people... steal our money... and explain how those actions are american.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Obviously Washington State doesn't have the illegal latino problem other states have. Maybe they just can stand all the rain.
And exactly where does the blowhard President of Mexico get off running his stupuid mouth with the corruption and problems Mexico has... and the arrogant son-of-a-b!tch has the gaul to think WE are supposed to pay for THEIR problems? I hope the stupid SOB catchs AIDS. After all, look at how Perfect his coutry is to go around Lecturing others how HIS citizens have the right to trespass on their lands and violate any laws they wish. Because to that brain dead buffoon Being "Brown" entitles you to do whatever you wish.
Mexican President Felipe Calderon is a brain damaged Moron.
I think WE should adopt the same laws Mexico has on the books right now dealing with illegals from south of their border.
What? Don't think anyone knows about how THEY treat illeglas from Central and south America?
I personally think they should declare an open season on illegals... Any discovered without papers on US soil can be claimed... held and kept as personal slaves to the finder.
Hey... this is the USA. OUR rights trump theirs. Their rights end at the border.
Can you imagine the reaction if GW Bush went to the legislature of one of our allies and told them which laws they should repeal and which ones they should adopt ? That would've fed the legacy media enough fodder for 3 weeks.
I think we should protect our borders like Calderon's Mexico does. He and President Obama must 've been fed an extra helping of rhetorical nonsense for breakfast causing them to belch pablum.
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
It's no different than he got for kissing 'em, and holding hands. I think talking to 'em about their laws is better.
excon
They all use the same script (Dems/libs/progressives, Calderon and leftist dictators), so isn't that like talking to yourself?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
We don't have the video of Obama bumpin bottoms with Calderon in the coat closet. But we are pretty sure what was happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Here is a response to the city of LA sent from Gary Pierce, a commissioner to the utility regulation panel, to Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa of laLA land about their threatened boycott of Arizonza.
http://hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uplo...aigosa.pdf.pdfQuote:
You explained your support of the boycott as follows: “While we recognize that as neighbors, we share resources and ties with the State of Arizona that may be difficult to sever, our goal is not to hurt the local economy of Los Angeles, but to impact the economy of Arizona. Our intent is to use our dollars — or the withholding of our dollars — to send a message.” (emphasis added)
I received your message; please receive mine. As a state-wide elected member of the Arizona Corporation Commission overseeing Arizona’s electric and water utilities, I too am keenly aware of the “resources and ties” we share with the City of Los Angeles. In fact, approximately twenty-five percent of the electricity consumed in Los Angeles is generated by power plants in Arizona.
If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation. I am confident that Arizona’s utilities would be happy to take those electrons off your hands. If, however, you find that the City Council lacks the strength of its convictions to turn off the lights in Los Angeles and boycott Arizona power, please reconsider the wisdom of attempting to harm Arizona’s economy.
People of goodwill can disagree over the merits of SB 1070. A state-wide economic boycott of Arizona is not a message sent in goodwill.
Sincerely,
Commissioner Gary Pierce
Hello t:
Aren't politicians silly? What if Hollywood said Arizona ain't going to get any more movies, or TV. I'd LOVE to see where THIS fight ends. Arizona ain't got NOTHING LA needs.
excon
In the home of the free and the brave, actions based on fear, is unacceptable.
That's not who we are!! No matter what politicians try to stir up to get re-elected.
The law is the law. You do the crime you pay the price. As long as the laws are not enforced then nothing will change. All Az is doing is enforcing the laws that have been on the federal books for years. All the law they passed did was serve notice that the law will now be enforced and clear conditions under which circumstances it would be done. America is the home of the free and the brave not the undocumented
The law is the law. You do the crime you pay the price. As long as the laws are not enforced then nothing will change. All Az is doing is enforcing the laws that have been on the federal books for years. All the law they passed did was serve notice that the law will now be enforced and clear conditions under which circumstances it would be done. America is the home of the free and the brave not the undocumented
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Originally Posted by excon
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In fact, approximately twenty-five percent of the electricity consumed in Los Angeles is generated by power plants in Arizona.
BTW, who needs hollywood, when there is the internet, you tube, etc.
G&P
Obama is sending 1200 troops to control the border. What a show their orders are to control the flow of guns into the United States. Not the flow of people. Guess it's OK to come in with out papers as long as your not armed. He also wants to yet again increase the size of government by creating 1200 new desk jobs to help. Unless he's going to line them up end to end in the places where the fence is not yet built I see no purpose except to make even more people dependent of the government for a job. Government spends it does not produce. Capitalist produce and reinvest. "American's must be fed socialism bit by bit until they become Communist" Nikita Khrushchev
BO is about to create a new growth industry, border protection, which will have the effect of stemming the tide, protecting jobs and creating new ones. It is a great pity this will be funded by government and so become just another program.Quote:
Originally Posted by meyowgee
The border wars have reached the bluest of blue Bay State .
Mass. Senate passes crackdown on illegal immigrants - Local News Updates - MetroDesk - The Boston GlobeQuote:
With one lawmaker citing President Lincoln’s respect for the rule of law, the Massachusetts Senate passed a far-reaching crackdown this afternoon on illegal immigrants and those who would hire them, going further, senators said, than any immigration bill proposed over the past five years. …
The measure, which passed on a 28-10 vote as an amendment to the budget, would bar the state from doing business with any company found to break federal laws barring illegal immigrant hiring. It would also toughen penalties for creating or using fake identification documents, and explicitly deny in-state college tuition for illegal immigrants.
The amendment would also require the state’s public health insurance program to verify residency through the Department of Homeland Security, and would require the state to give legal residents priority for subsidized housing
I wonder if there will be a boycott Massachusetts movement ?
However ,even though the Senate briefly returned to reality ,this measure still has to clear the MA House and the inevidible veto by Gov. Deval Patrick.
Hello again, tom:
Because I oppose the Arizona law, doesn't mean I oppose ALL immigration laws... There's a couple different ways people can attack a problem. That would the RIGHT way or the WRONG way.
Arizona is WRONG. Massachusetts is RIGHT. I suspect you can't tell the difference.
excon
I think they are both right. But ;if you think it's right then you will speak out against Duval if he vetoes ?
Sorry for the late reply, finals and summer classes...Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
First, I never thought, nor said that a wall would be inexpensive. If it was, it probably would have been done already.
Next, your starting at a presumption that I would take the word of any politician over common sense... any barrier is better than no barrier and 20 or even 30 billion dollars would be recouped in a single year with the decreased crossover and subsequent taxpayer payments, medical care, penal costs, and that doesn't even begin to take into account the priceless increase in national security.
Lastly, using the "it's only taxpayers money" line is really lost on me since I am more of a rational libertarian, meaning no government spending is impossible and extremely limited gov spending is impractical, but limiting gov spending to essential functions like; national security, imfrastructure maintanence, and the like while eliminating the welfare system we are propagating internationally and at home not only makes sense, but is critical to the survival of the US.
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem giving people or other countries taxpayer monies so long as the taxpayers reap a significant and tangible benefit.
If this is a true claim, then it was indeed in violation of the law. For which, there are remedies at law.Quote:
Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
However, I doubt that the case is as simple as you make it out to be--Life and the law are far more complex than you try to make them appear-this is a disagreement we have had in various threads.
Just a side note... Duval is not long for this state... thank Gods...
Hopefully, his will hit the pavement in the next election!
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