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It is you who are grasping at straws

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How's that?

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Proving a negative in the Bible is a breeze. For instance, if you ask me, "Show me the places where Jesus endorsed using the internet for research," I would reply by saying that there are no such scriptures. It is simply saying that no such scriptures exist. So you are grasping at any convenient excuse. Proving a negative amongst a finite, known set of possibilities is not difficult.

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Thank you so much for posting that. If there had been any doubt about your not understanding what proving a negative means, you have removed all doubt by your post.

I suggest again, ask around what it means so you can regain at least a semblance of knowing what you're talking about.

Goodness. The lengths you will go to in order to avoid answering a simple question is astonishing.

1. If my statement about proving a negative was incorrect, then show how it was. Due to Aquinas, I have no confidence in your assertions at all. I'm confident I know what I'm talking about in that regard.

2. If you stop and think a few minutes, you will realize that I am not asking you to prove a negative. I am not asking if something does NOT exist. I am asking if something DOES exist. To be exact, I am asking if a passage DOES EXIST in which Jesus says there will be no judgment. It's a simple, straight-forward question. If you know of one, then post it. I'll post the question below so you can see that you are not being asked to demonstrate the NON existence of something, but rather that something (a passage) DOES exist.

"But since you claim, I suppose, to be familiar with the Gospels, let me issue a challenge. Show us in those Gospels the places where Jesus said that there will be no day of judgment coming." So showing us where Jesus DID say something is clearly not asking you to prove a negative.

But we both know you will not. You won't because to admit that you cannot positively affirm the existence of such a scripture would damage your already frail position that there is no day of judgment coming. Everyone here knows that is the case. And if you don't want to answer, then fine. We can just drop it. It's not worth this much drama over a simple question.

You asked about me. For whatever importance you think it is, I am white. I don't claim any religious affiliations other than being a Jesus-following Christian. That one I cling to with great passion.

cut out the argy bargy, it gets old

I don’t know what “arghy Bargy” is. I am not here to please you. You don’t have to read any of this if you don’t want to.

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Originally Posted by paraclete

cut out the argy bargy, it gets old

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I agree it gets old, but he can't help it. He keeps repeating himself. His "prove a negative" posts get worse and worse as he digs that ditch deeper with each post. I've tried to help him understand but he's not a good listener.

You’re just afraid to answer. Too bad. You can’t even figure out that you are not faced with proving a negative. I can’t make it any more simple. I’ll just answer it fir you. I know of no such passage. Finished.

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I know of no such passage. Finished.

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So my Uncle Elmer, plus most of China and India and many lefties in the US, will not make the Judgment Day cut and will roast in hellfire forever because Jesus sent them there?

Jesus doesn’t like lefties?

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

You’re just afraid to answer. Too bad. You can’t even figure out that you are not faced with proving a negative. I can’t make it any more simple. I’ll just answer it fir you. I know of no such passage. Finished.

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Now, now, JL, you know what they say about answering your own question. What they say is the answer was pre-determined and asking for an answer was a false move since you wouldn't accept any answer given that did not agree with you. That's not nice, Jl.

I think you're suffering from ADS (Athos Derangement Syndrome). This explains the hate you are exhibiting here. You should try to control your anger/hate because it leads to an ulcer or, worse, a stroke.

For someone who is a self-proclaimed educator, not knowing what proving a negative means casts doubt on your claim. It also reflects badly on your other stated claims of your volunteer work and your Christianity, not to speak of your tendency to self-congratulate. Was any of that true? Do you know what a troll is?

A glass of warm milk at bedtime might help you calm yourself. Even better, add a thimble of Irish whiskey.

Many meaningless words and yet no answer. So terribly fearful.

Here it is again if it helps. Do you know of any passage where Jesus said there will be no judgment?

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Do you know of any passage where Jesus said there will be no judgment?

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Asked and answered - by yourself.

You didn't answer any of my questions: Was any of that true? Do you know what a troll is?

Or WG's point?

Did you drink your milk?

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Was any of that true?

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No. It was just your desperate attempt to divert attention away from your incredible reluctance to answer a simple question. Here it is again if it helps. Do you know of any passage where Jesus said there will be no judgment?

"Do you know what a troll is?" Yes.

"Or WG's point?" She had no point.

Not difficult, is it?

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Asked and answered - by yourself.

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A little refreshing moment of honesty. I congratulate you. A little more honesty would have helped you to admit that I had to answer it since you would not. And even a little more would have let you admit that everyone, including you, already knew the answer anyway.

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"Or WG's point?" She had no point.

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Oh, yes, she did! Should I clarify it -- simplify it -- for you?

As clarification, you had a question. You made no point.

I replied and you have not answered.

Stop feeding the booty sensitive troll unless running around in a big circle turns your crank. I thought the subject was how to raise kids and address their individual needs. Can we start with the premise it's a community shared issue where everybody plays a crucial role, not just parents? Kids need more than JUST school education for a healthy balanced development, as schools are also the social hub of the neighborhood for interactions and activities for kids as well as parents and teachers, and even the community leaders which does include the religious foundations.

I can't address Clete's seemingly isolated incident, but I hope it's not a red flag that we have ignored here in this country which has all but ravaged our already struggling community systems.

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Can we start with the premise it's a community shared issue where everybody plays a crucial role, not just parents? Kids need more than JUST school education for a healthy balanced development

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Yes, it takes a village to raise a child.

Here's a good article about that:
https://smartparentadvice.com/it-tak...other%20adults.

I can agree with that so long as a strong healthy family environment is considered to be the foundation.

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I can agree with that so long as a strong healthy family environment is considered to be the foundation.

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If that exists, there's no need for the village.

And that healthy family environment won't be the case, as you often point out. We don't live in a perfect world, thus the need for the village to surround and support each family.

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If that exists, there's no need for the village.

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So healthy families don't need police services, med services, schools, nursing homes, etc.???

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And that healthy family environment won't be the case, as you often point out. We don't live in a perfect world, thus the need for the village to surround and support each family.

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Why won't it be the case most of the time?