OT priest? What does that have to do with Matthew 6:4?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
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OT priest? What does that have to do with Matthew 6:4?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Whoops. I read it as 8:4. My apologies. So if you believe what you read in 6:4, why have you announced on several occasions what your charitable endeavors have been??
How do you square your interpretation of 6:4 with what is said in 5:16?
Whatever I admitted to was to shut you up and stop your hassling.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
My shining light is not my charitable endeavors.Quote:
How do you square your interpretation of 6:4 with what is said in 5:16?
Why is it that with you guys it is always someone else's fault? Can't you handle any responsibility at all? Anytime you want to "shut me up", all you have to do is ask me not to respond to your posts, and I will oblige. I would only ask that you not mention me in your posts, nor comment on posts that I am active in, and that will be fine.Quote:
Whatever I admitted to was to shut you up and stop your hassling.
Maybe not for you, but for the 5:16 verse, the light shining is our good works that men should see. It is very plain. "16 Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven." Jesus typically didn't take people out behind the house to heal them.Quote:
My shining light is not my charitable endeavors.
Now I'm not suggesting that we should go around bragging about what we do. You are correct in that. I don't really think you have done that, and I'm very sure I have not. But in a discussion of charity, I don't see a problem with a person using some of their own efforts as examples so long as it doesn't end up being prideful.
You can never get an ego maniac or a bore to shut up, but what hurts them is to ignore themQuote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Stop hassling, participate in honest and fruitful discussions, and all will be Christmassy!Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Good works don't necessarily include money.Quote:
Maybe not for you, but for the 5:16 verse, the light shining is our good works that men should see. It is very plain. "16 Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven." Jesus typically didn't take people out behind the house to heal them.
@JL...who else?
I don't think WG has blamed anyone, or expressed anyone else's fault, but rather pushing back against your dismissive personal attacks which is always your MO when YOU want to assign blame and fault in the positions of others. A tactic the dufus uses well to bully people and it's fascinating to watch you channel your inner dufus to promote yourself and and your half baked lunatic ideas, and passive aggressive B....LS....T.
Personally I never want you to shut up because the importance of us knowing your ilk exists is a perfect warning that we cannot be complacent and allow you to run buck wild through this forum unchecked and unchallenged.
Honest and fruitful? Hello, Ms. Pot, as can be seen by this. "Good works don't necessarily include money." Yeah. Giving a poor person money certainly could not be called a " good work". Really?Quote:
participate in honest and fruitful discussions,
As I have said a million times, if you ever see me do those things, then by all means speak up, but these useless, pointless references accomplish nothing. BTW, is your paragraph a good example of a "dismissive personal attack"??? How about the paragraph below. Is that a dismissive, personal attack? And if it is, and it is, then why is it OK for you to do it, but not OK for me to do it?Quote:
I don't think WG has blamed anyone, or expressed anyone else's fault, but rather pushing back against your dismissive personal attacks which is always your MO when YOU want to assign blame and fault in the positions of others. A tactic the dufus uses well to bully people and it's fascinating to watch you channel your inner dufus to promote yourself and and your half baked lunatic ideas, and passive aggressive B....LS....T.
And more ranting. Get specific about something. If you want to challenge me, then find something specific and fire away. You have done it many times in the past, so I know you can, but these useless tirades are tiresome.Quote:
Personally I never want you to shut up because the importance of us knowing your ilk exists is a perfect warning that we cannot be complacent and allow you to run buck wild through this forum unchecked and unchallenged.
Yes, really. A good work can be something as simple as smiling at someone who needs a lift at that moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I chunk my rocks my way, you chunk yours your way.
If you really want to have an "honest and fruitful" discussion, then this needs to stop. You know full well that we are not talking about smiling at people. The question was the command in Mt. 5:16 to let our good works be seen by men, but to do it in such a way as to bring glory to God and not to us. Can we agree on that?Quote:
Yes, really. A good work can be something as simple as smiling at someone who needs a lift at that moment.
Good works involve only money?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Those with money think it is so, but they are loth to follow the example given by Jesus to the rich young ruler
Just about what I expected.Quote:
Good works involve only money?
Good works involve only money?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Ask Walmart or Amazon...or JL's favorite charity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
what was jl's favourite charity again, yes it was jlQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
You keep forgetting that I seem to be the only here who actually believes in personal charity. You liberal dems love to brag about how you get the gov to use someone else's money to care for poor people so you don't have to get involved yourselves.Quote:
what was jl's favourite charity again, yes it was jl
as I do . There is no virtue in forced charity and none in promoting it .All the left is doing is saying their intent is to do good with other people's money .
As far as the Gospel goes ,forced giving through taxation does nothing to help the giver become more Christ-like.
As this site shows ;the people in the lower taxed states are much more generous in personal charitable giving .
TaxProf Blog (typepad.com)
And it does no one any good for a nation to be charitable by giving away money that does not exist .
Sums it up quite well.Quote:
There is no virtue in forced charity and none in promoting it .All the left is doing is saying their intent is to do good with other people's money .
As far as the Gospel goes ,forced giving through taxation does nothing to help the giver become more Christ-like.
And it does no one any good for a nation to be charitable by giving away money that does not exist .
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