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  • Feb 18, 2014, 11:04 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    So you like living in a fantasy world also?
    See, there's one right there.
    Quote:

    make sh*t up and pretend it's truth
  • Feb 18, 2014, 11:27 AM
    speechlesstx
    It's called a question, hence the question mark thingy.
  • Feb 18, 2014, 11:43 AM
    NeedKarma
    Ah, the Fox News tactic: "...simply putting a question mark at the end of something, you can say *** anything"
    The Question Mark - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 09/13/06 - Video Clip | Comedy Central
  • Feb 18, 2014, 12:08 PM
    speechlesstx
    I'm not Fox news. I've been asking questions long before they came into existence, and the idea that I just make sh*t up and pass it off as truth, such as Obama's lie that the Central California drought is caused by climate change, or "golf" is a dog whistle, is indeed a fantasy. I don't need to make it up, the evidence abounds. Where's yours?
  • Feb 18, 2014, 12:27 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    I've been asking questions long before they came into existence,
    I know, you totally missed the point he was making.
  • Feb 18, 2014, 01:26 PM
    speechlesstx
    You're just making that up. As I was saying...
  • Feb 18, 2014, 02:01 PM
    paraclete
    golf? what about cricket?
  • Feb 18, 2014, 02:04 PM
    Tuttyd
    "That's the MO of the left, not the right."

    Speech, isn't that you do here from time to time? Are you not falling into the same trap by playing the same cards?
  • Feb 18, 2014, 02:34 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Speech, isn't that you do here from time to time? Are you not falling into the same trap by playing the same cards?
    I believe I suggested there is more racism on the left, based on actual examples such as those. I don't impugn an entire segment of the population as racist for no reason (the point of the protester video) other than political gain (or ever for that matter) as Democrats do over, and over, and over, and over again. If they're going to talk about it I'm going to call them on their hypocrisy.
  • Feb 18, 2014, 02:56 PM
    Tuttyd
    Yes, you do a good job of point out how the Dems play that game. But the point I am making is that if and when you you accuse the Dems of being racist, then you are doing exactly the same thing.

    It's all very well to point out how the dems have made race baiting a fine art. But is a different matter to accuse them of being racist.

    The whole business is completely absurd.
  • Feb 18, 2014, 03:18 PM
    paraclete
    an absurdity, but then isn't politics an absurdity, certainly obstructionist politics is an absurdity, one doesn't need to enter politics to do nothing, one meerly needs to avoid polling booths
  • Feb 18, 2014, 03:23 PM
    speechlesstx
    I beg to differ, there is a difference between actual racism and manufactured nonsense. A congressman saying he doesn't like a black Supreme Court justice because he's married to a white woman is racist. Attacking blacks for the simple fact they're conservative is racist.

    Should we allow this to continue without holding them accountable? How does it solve racial tensions if we allow it to go unchallenged? Is that how Dr. King went about it, by shutting up and sitting in his place?
  • Feb 18, 2014, 03:30 PM
    Tuttyd
    You seem to be saying that when you accuse Dems of being racist you can provide the evidence- apparently you can.

    However, when the Dems accuse the Repubs of being racist there is no evidence available because they are not racist.

    Is this what you are saying?
  • Feb 18, 2014, 03:58 PM
    speechlesstx
    Not exactly, I say the need to deal with this manufactured racism is at least as important as dealing with actual racism. In other words, we don't hate Obama because he's black so shut the hell up about it.
  • Feb 18, 2014, 04:36 PM
    paraclete
    So why do you hate Obama? because his initiative cost you a few dollars? or was it your own obstructionism? Is your obstructionism based on the fact that the people who benefit most from the Obama initiative are not like you.. maybe you hate him because he has the ability to unite beyond racial barriers where you only divide
  • Feb 18, 2014, 04:50 PM
    speechlesstx
    I don't hate Obama, I don't hate anyone. disagreement over policy does not constitute hate, racism or apathy toward those in need - points we've been making for 6 years. Your last Iine is too laughable to even consider.
  • Feb 18, 2014, 05:10 PM
    paraclete
    I'm glad you got a laugh speech because I am able to laugh everyday at your attitudes. I have not suggested that your opposition to Obamacare is based in racism though it does beg the question sometimes, however there must be something driving the opposition to Obama himself, more than just he is of the opposite political persuasion, or that the great white hope couldn't unseat him
  • Feb 19, 2014, 05:10 AM
    speechlesstx
    So the whole porkulus, Benghazi, Fast & Furious, IRS, Obamacare, executive orders, environmental cronyism, printing money, intransigent Senate, incompetent incoherent foreign policy, etc. Isn't enough to oppose, it must be that he's black. Lol, you people are nuts.
  • Feb 19, 2014, 05:12 AM
    cdad
    The opposition to Obama is mostly about policy that has so far been held unaccountable to anyone. Having the media is a powerful weapon and his along with the media's abuse of power is nearing legendary.

    It is not about race. Obamacare was a joke from the start and Obama really had nothing to do with it other then he wanted to pass "something". And those that pushed it through were telling the public you have to pass it to see what is in it.

    That is a disaster from the get go. I understand the need to tweak something so it fits better into the real world but with ACA it has been much more then tweaking to where it isn't even close to what was promised and it never will be. There is no fix for it as it was written so poorly in the first place.
  • Feb 19, 2014, 02:13 PM
    paraclete
    so repeal it when you get the chance, but get on with government in the mean time. All new initiatives need tweeking and reveiw and no doubt this is no different. If it hadn't passed the house it couldn't have become law so if the poli's didn't do their job kick them out. Now I think you have tried that solution and it didn't work. Obama has signed less executive orders than other Presidents and yet the fact he dared to sign one is at issue. At best all you have is poor judgement which is a strawman at best

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