Its not socialized medicine since every state has options and waivers and funding to implement a system tailored for their own needs. As do incentives for hospitals to address their own models and delivery systems. Aca allows somuch latitude that even a moron can make some basic adjustsments and expand and streamline through technology.
Quietly as its kept MANY govenors and providers have embraced and partnered with the federal government, despite the hollering of some because the biggest challenge it seems is in manning the workers for that expansion. Not only scholastically, but on the job.
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LOL, talk about lies, Obama took money from medicare, but from the supply side, not the benefits,
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Please feel free to document whatever the heck it is you're trying to say here.
>sigh< I gave you the link to the ACA bill it self which cuts administrative costs from providers and insurance companies (Supply side, not benefits to particapants), and closes the donut hole which Ryan voted for in the Bush administration (which is part of the deficit we now worry about, along with wars and defense contracts), Part D (prescptions for seniors currently under medicare), which unless you KNOW someone struggling with part D,
Was expense for both government and seniors. Basically that where the money went.
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There is a big difference, though, in the thrust of the reductions between Ryan and Obama's plans. ObamaCare specifically calls for no reductions in benefits (though, again, if you squeeze providers, benefits will be harder to receive) because it's essentially a defined benefit plan. Ryan calls for a defined contribution plan. And under Ryan's scenario, there's a good bet that the contribution won't be enough to cover health expenses that ObamaCare seeks to guarantee.
Read more here:
Obama's $700 billion Medicare-cut problem | Naked Politics
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but Romney does the same thing, but gives it to rich guys. He may not throw granny under the bus, but her grandkids and kids are toast. NOBODY want the vouchers, and the system is SOLVENT to 2024.
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Or in other words, it goes INSOLVENT in 12 years, but that's OK, I understand progressives are mathematically challenged.
Stop hollering and get busy, we have 12 years to get a good plan between us don't we? Don't panic now!
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We know the reason for all the right wing cuts, its to support more corporate welfare, so they can hide more money and open sweat shops overseas. I doubt seriously that the country goes along with the right wing plans.
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You really need another line of attack, this one's beyond stale. Americans want jobs, Obama just gives us more stagnation and national debt.
Bridges, roads, schools, hospitals, teachers, firefighters, nurses, infrastructure, power grids! You know that jobs bill you guys fillibustered and holler about. IMMEDIATE jobs. Plenty of work, Lazy a$$ congress. Right wing obstruction and BS!!
Need a link for that too?