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I love it . When polls favor the liberal position they are exhibited as gospel truth . But when they don't ;clearly the methodology is flawed .
You wonder why I rarely quote polls ?
My point is this ;and in this case there is no other evidence besides polling data ;it would;ve been impossible for the NRA to retain it's influence on the body politic if not for majority support.
If a poll is flawed, no matter who did it, I will scream. You have one in mind?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
http://www.examiner.com/article/nbc-...bama-1?cid=rssQuote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
It happens routinely... this one they got called out on.
Bloomy... "oh you thought I meant it literally ? "
Mayor Michael Bloomberg On CNN's Piers Morgan Tonight: Police Officers Should Go On Strike To Get Lawmakers To Crack Down on Gun Control CBS New York
Many law enforcement bodies have called for gun control over the years. Nobody is listening to them, obviously. Not even when a nut case makes one helluva case for it, or the reasonable gun owners support it.
The majority of polls are flawed for all sorts of reasons. That's why I don't even consider them as being anything serious.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Bloomy bans soda and salt... He is not the best spokesman for the cause. In fact ,one could argue that he's a nut case . Chris Christie had a better perspective . Christie said, I like to keep a respectful distance on these things early I don't want to seem like a politician who is trying to capitalize on tragedy - and I think we have too many of those..... it's not just Senator Lautenberg who's done this, but there have been others lets leave a bit of a respectful distance between these people being murdered in the movie theater to try to make a political issue of it I just think its wrong I'm with the President and Governor Romney on this I don't think we should be talking about it now.Quote:
Many law enforcement bodies have called for gun control over the years. Nobody is listening to them, obviously. Not even when a nut case makes one helluva case for it, or the reasonable gun owners support it.
Colorado has conceal and carry laws. But ,the victims were in a theater that was a declared "gun-free zone" ,so no one in the theater was armed . In that example we have a pattern. Va.Tech was also a gun-free campus.
Well he might be a respectfull distance but Obama made it clear where he stood, military style weapons don't belong in the community and he said it often enough to suggest it might become a part of a platform. Now if you don't have a need for a Malitia because you have both a standing army and the National Guard and you don't have a need for military weaponsin the community the second amendment starts to have a hollow ring and you should question whether gun ownership actually has a purpose
Yes ;he'd rather they are in Mexican communities.
The NRA are out of touch with most people and even with most gun owners. I have a book about the 1980 U.S. election called "Watershed" and there was a line saying that over 60 percent of Americans support registering handguns.
That is a big difference to assault weaponsQuote:
Originally Posted by earl237
1980 was 33 years ago . But still ,if the % is still at that rate ,it supports my point. Nowhere in the country is there a place where legal handguns aren't registered . If the NRA opposed handgun registration ,and the people support it ;their representatives have listened to the people ,and not the "powerful gun lobby" .
It is said the NRA is the third political party in the US, so Tom do you really believe that if the people wanted proper gun control they could get it
Of course they would ! The NRA takes the position that registration is the 1st step towards confiscation. They are not wrong in that concern . If they had their way ,there would be no registration.However ,there is not a place in this country that doesn't have some form of registration .That is because the people think it's reasonable. So yes ,the people's concerns outweigh the NRA political influence .
I think there will be additional steps taken in the wake of this ;as far as backround checks ,and perhaps internet purchases.
Have to correct you on that, we don't register handguns in Texas. We don't register rifles or shotguns either. And we're darn proud of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Hello Steve:
It's just like Texas to THREATEN its visitors... That's why I'll NEVER go.. I'm from a place like this... That's why I'm so wonderful..
excon
You do know of course I'm just confirming your wildest fears about our state. Wild west, lawless frontier, clueless hicks all packing heat and ready to execute you for possession of marihoochie and all that.
The real sign...
P.S. Colorado probably gets most of its tourism dollars from Texas, but they aren't that friendly. In fact Colorado, while a beautiful state itself, reminds me of Oklahoma with mountains. Lots and lots of decrepit mobile homes with rusty vehicles in the yard souring the landscape.
More proof that 2nd amendment rights is a settled issue.
White House gives cool welcome to bill restricting online ammo sales | The Ticket - Yahoo! News
What a surprise. Another junk piece of legislation to restrict rights of citizens. Many states don't have gun registration. And that is a good thing. This with ammunition sales is just insane. How far do they want to go? Will those that reload be exempt because they are not actually buying bullets? The idiots don't seem to want to take responsibility for action just create crap as a reaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Its typical politics of the day.
Small progress but progress nonetheless
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