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  • Jan 2, 2013, 10:54 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Our laws attempt to BALANCE your rights against somebody else's rights. That's all this is..

    There is no balance in forcing the Catholic church to violate its specifically enumerated rights. There is not even any logic in forcing celibate nuns to cover birth control.

    Quote:

    Maybe the Supreme Court WILL say 1st Amendment rights trump 14th Amendment rights... But, I don't think, even this right wing court, will rule that way. But, I could be wrong... I was wrong back '08.
    Is the government arguing 14th amendment?

    Quote:

    federal judge halts obama birth-control policy for domino's pizza founder
    By elise viebeck - 12/31/12 02:13 pm et

    A federal judge has ordered a temporary halt on the obama administration's birth-control coverage policy for tom monaghan, the catholic billionaire who founded domino's pizza.

    Federal district court judge lawrence p. Zatkoff issued the decision Sunday, less than two days before the policy would have taken effect and exposed monaghan to fines for non-compliance.

    "plaintiff has shown that abiding by the mandate will substantially burden his exercise of religion," zatkoff wrote.

    "the government has failed to satisfy its burden of showing that its actions were narrowly tailored to serve a compelling interest.. . This factor weighs in favor of granting plaintiffs' motion."
  • Jan 2, 2013, 10:57 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    What would make us REAL?

    Being female.

    Quote:

    What aren't we doing right now?
    I have no idea.
  • Jan 2, 2013, 10:59 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    the presumption being that I would've been on the side of the slave states ? I wonder how a Black would feel about you equating their freedom from bondage with a women getting a contraception pill ?

    They all seem to have gotten together to repudiate you guys so maybe its not a mandate but one helluva statement. How do you ignore that?
  • Jan 2, 2013, 11:02 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Quote:

    There is no balance in forcing the Catholic church to violate its specifically enumerated rights.
    I don't know what's NOT enumerated about 14.

    Therein lies your war with women.. Women, in the main, DO believe their rights under the 14th Amendment matter. Your unilateral dismissal of their concerns is emblematic of the war you're engaged in. It ain't going to corral ANY of 'em to your side.

    Excon
  • Jan 2, 2013, 11:04 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Therein lies your war with women.. THEY believe their rights under the 14th Amendment DO matter. Your unilateral dismissal of their concerns is emblematic of the war you're engaged in, and it ain't gonna corral ANY of 'em to your side.

    excon

    a) You didn't answer my question, is the government arguing 14th amendment?

    b) I will not compromise our constitutional rights for political points. I have a spine.

    P.S. Women LOVE me.
  • Jan 2, 2013, 11:09 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    a) I don't know.

    b) I applaud you. I won't compromise mine either.

    PS> The women of America DON'T love your position. See last election.

    excon
  • Jan 2, 2013, 11:20 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    a) I dunno.

    b) I applaud you. I won't compromise mine either.

    PS> The women of America DON'T love your position. See last election.

    excon

    The women of America didn't get the truth, they got a myth.
  • Jan 2, 2013, 11:28 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Quote:

    The women of America didn't get the truth, they got a myth.
    Then your POLICY is not wrong. If women only UNDERSTOOD it, they'd embrace it... Really??

    Bwa, ha ha ha ha...

    I'll bet that's how you feel about immigration too. If ONLY the illegals UNDERSTOOD your policy, they'd skedaddle on out of here.

    Bwa, ha ha ha ha again.

    Excon
  • Jan 2, 2013, 11:41 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Then your POLICY is not wrong. If women only UNDERSTOOD it, they'd embrace it... Really????

    Bwa, ha ha ha ha...

    I'll bet that's how your feel about immigration too. If ONLY the illegals UNDERSTOOD your policy, they'd skedaddle on outta here.

    Bwa, ha ha ha ha again.

    excon

    Dude, they don't understand your policies either. There was nothing more sexist and patronizing to women than Obama's Julia.
  • Jan 2, 2013, 12:50 PM
    talaniman
    That's what YOU say, that's NOT what THEY say.
  • Jan 2, 2013, 01:52 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Thats what YOU say, thats NOT what THEY say.

    The smart ones do.
  • Jan 2, 2013, 02:45 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post

    Just wait. We'll be in charge one day.
  • Jan 2, 2013, 03:16 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Just wait. We'll be in charge one day.

    And when you are is that how you're going to treat Julia?
  • Jan 2, 2013, 03:27 PM
    talaniman
    If Julia needs some help we would give it to her, wouldn't you? That should go for anyone who had hard times through no fault of their own.
  • Jan 2, 2013, 03:29 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And when you are is that how you're going to treat Julia?

    We will treat Julia with hugs and snacks and drinks and whatever help she needs.
  • Jan 2, 2013, 03:53 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    If Julia needs some help we would give it to her, wouldn't you? That should go for anyone who had hard times thru no fault of their own.

    I've made my position on that more than clear.
  • Jan 2, 2013, 03:54 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    We will treat Julia with hugs and snacks and drinks and whatever help she needs.

    And as a woman too helpless to do anything without her benevolent government's help?
  • Jan 2, 2013, 03:56 PM
    tomder55
    In a short time ;the women who are already getting the better educations in this country will take their place in the ranks of the higher earners ,most likely tipping the scale in their favor . When that happens will the Lilly Bedwetter law be repealed ;or applied to wage discrimination against males ?
  • Jan 2, 2013, 04:22 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    in a short time ;the women who are already getting the better educations in this country will take their place in the ranks of the higher earners ,most likely tipping the scale in their favor . When that happens will the Lilly Bedwetter law be repealed ;or applied to wage discrimination against males ?

    We wealthy and well-educated women of all cultures won't swing the same way that rich old white males do.
  • Jan 2, 2013, 04:54 PM
    paraclete
    No you will appoint women to positions and push men down

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