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  • Jul 24, 2013, 07:46 PM
    talaniman
    Virginia Gov. Candidate Cuccinelli Defending Law That Forbids Oral Sex | Mother Jones

    You can't make this stuff up.
  • Jul 24, 2013, 08:55 PM
    paraclete
    Why would you want to it's a perfectly good law
  • Jul 25, 2013, 04:27 AM
    speechlesstx
    "the case at hand involves consensual, heterosexual oral sex, but, as the New York Times explained in 2011, it's "icky": The sex was between a 47-year-old man and two teenagers above Virginia's age of consent."

    No biggie there. Why would we want to keep perverted old farts from getting their jollies with teens?
  • Jul 25, 2013, 04:44 AM
    NeedKarma
    47 is an old fart? :(
  • Jul 25, 2013, 05:25 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:
    Quote:

    two teenagers ABOVE Virginia's age of consent."

    No biggie there. Why would we want to keep perverted old farts from getting their jollies with teens?
    If being ABOVE the age of consent is STILL too young, then RAISE the age of consent... But, DON'T stop everybody from getting some head...

    And, you want to know why we think you're warring on us.. DUDE!

    Excon
  • Jul 25, 2013, 05:26 AM
    smoothy
    Heck.. if a 47 year old guy can get a couple 18 or 19 year olds... more power to him. That is legal age for everything but bar hopping.

    Odds are theiy are either gold diggers or have daddy issues... I'm guessing this was one of the former as those are far more common.
  • Jul 25, 2013, 05:37 AM
    paraclete
    What is it you don't get young guys just don't cut it they are up themselves
  • Jul 25, 2013, 05:38 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:
    If being ABOVE the age of consent is STILL too young, then RAISE the age of consent... But, DON'T stop everybody from getting some head...

    And, you wanna know why we think you're warring on us.. DUDE!

    excon

    Even the NY Times called it "icky" but not you.
  • Jul 25, 2013, 05:47 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:
    Quote:

    Even the NY Times called it "icky" but not you.
    What's important HERE, on THIS website, is NOT the actions of ONE person, but the actions of a political party - YOURS!!

    That's where I'm going to spend my time.. Of course, you don't like it.

    Excon
  • Jul 25, 2013, 05:49 AM
    smoothy
    Um... its Wiener (a Democrat) that's been caught... several times using twitter to show the world his junk.

    Most of whom likely were thinking to themselves... "Dude..put your pants back on..."
  • Jul 25, 2013, 05:50 AM
    talaniman
    Come on Speech, do you really want to be telling adults what to do in the bedroom? Bad enough you want to stick stuff up a women's vagina whether her and her doctor want it or not, but dictating what kind of sex adults have is a bit much don't you think?

    I mean how would you even enforce it?
  • Jul 25, 2013, 05:52 AM
    smoothy
    Don't worry... Cat ladies and the Equestrian Love association will be lobbying for their right to interspecies marriage soon.

    So will the Mormons who still believe in Polygamy too.
  • Jul 25, 2013, 06:24 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:
    What's important HERE, on THIS website, is NOT the actions of ONE person, but the actions of a political party - YOURS!!!

    That's where I'm gonna spend my time.. Of course, you don't like it.

    excon

    Dude, I live in reality, not this make-believe land of yours.
  • Jul 25, 2013, 06:28 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Come on Speech, do you really want to be telling adults what to do in the bedroom? Bad enough you want to stick stuff up a women's vagina whether her and her doctor want it or not, but dictating what kind of sex adults have is a bit much don't you think?

    I mean how would you even enforce it?

    All I'm saying is it wasn't that long ago the repulsion of a 47 year old man sexing up two teen boys would have been bipartisan. You approve, I don't, I think he's a pervert - another one you defend.
  • Jul 25, 2013, 06:33 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Are you missing the point ON PURPOSE??

    Because we don't support a law that, if enforced, would put EVERYBODY in prison, doesn't mean that we support a pervert.

    Besides, it COULD be argued, that anybody who wants to PREVENT everybody from enjoying the wonders of oral sex, is the REAL pervert here.

    excon
  • Jul 25, 2013, 06:42 AM
    talaniman
    You don't make laws because something between consenting adults repulses you and you putting labels on people because of that repulsion isn't fair either, and none of your, or anyone else's, business at all.

    But the real issue for me is your side's callous disrespect for the rights of all consenting adults caught up in your narrow condemnation of a few. This goes well beyond affecting just those you say are perverts. What about married couple who want to include oral sex in their love making? Are they perverts too?

    YES!! According to Cuccinelli, and you're on his side in this travesty?
  • Jul 25, 2013, 07:04 AM
    speechlesstx
    I actually don't believe in anti-sodomy laws, I believe in protecting teens from perverts. It actually seems your source was mistaken on the facts however. Via WaPo:

    Quote:

    The appeals court ruled on the 2005 conviction of a 47-year-old Virginia man for contributing to the delinquency of a minor and for criminal solicitation of a 17-year-old girl to commit sodomy.
    So, are you OK with 47 year old men sexing up minors and trying to get a blow job from a 17-year-old girl or not? That is the question before you.
  • Jul 25, 2013, 07:09 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:
    Quote:

    So, are you OK with 47 year old men sexing up minors and trying to get a blow job from a 17-year-old girl or not? That is the question before you.
    I'm fine with raising the age of consent. I have granddaughters. Let's raise it to 27. But, to tell me that I'm a crook for getting a blow job is outrageous.

    Excon
  • Jul 25, 2013, 07:11 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:
    I'm fine with raising the age of consent. I have granddaughters. Let's raise it to 27. But, to tell me that I'm a crook for getting a blow job is outrageous.

    excon

    What part of I don't believe in anti-sodomy laws are you not getting? The question is, are you OK with 47 year old men sexing up minors and trying to get a blow job from a 17-year-old girl or not?
  • Jul 25, 2013, 07:17 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    The question is, are you OK with 47 year old men sexing up minors and trying to get a blow job from a 17-year-old girl or not?
    Change the laws if you don't like them. The girls were above the age of consent. Not sure why you don't get that.

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