That's because the idea of disarming the population IS dumb at its core.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Unless of course you are part of the Tyrannical Government that likes the idea of not having an opposition.
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That's because the idea of disarming the population IS dumb at its core.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Unless of course you are part of the Tyrannical Government that likes the idea of not having an opposition.
Once again sarcasm text but I was referring to the cops, with no guns in the hands of the cops the population has nothing to fear and no need of guns. You talk of tyrannical government but start by stopping the tyrannical population and you will solve your problems.
Look, think it through, who commits most of the gun crime, so deal with that problem, start a war on illegal gang bangers, then escalate your war to gang bangers in general, deal with the illegal possession problem, those millions of illegal weapons on the black market, etc. deal with you drug problem, zero tolerance, you have even demonstrated this works yourselves. Not three strikes but one strike, if you are not legal you are gone, no free accommodation in jail, if you are legal you are in (jail), and if you are illegal and in jail you are gone, right now, no time for apprenticeship. You have many planes on the ground doing nothing put them to work. Clear the neighbourhoods of illegals, street by street if need be, you will see the problem evaporate very quickly. The queue at the border going south will be too big to handle.You need politicians with balls not the wimps you have and the problem will be solved in a term
Hello again, smoothy:
Let's put this to bed. Even IF you gather into little enclaves of rebellion, one US ARMY Apache helicopter with its 50 caliber machine gun will WIPE you out.. Your puny assault rifles won't defend you.. You will NEVER defeat the US MARINES. The fact that you wingers THINK you can is emblematic of the insanity going around in YOUR circles...Quote:
Unless of course you are part of the Tyrannical Government that likes the idea of not having an opposition.
Additionally, if you start your war against MY country, I will obey my oath to defend the USA against ALL enemies foreign and domestic.. See you on the battlefield.
Excon
Maybe you will use some of the arsenal that DHS is accumulating .
Hello tom:
The Army has plenty of ammo. We'll make quick work of your rebellion.
excon
Yeah but what makes you think they will allow you to have weapons ?
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Make sure you understand all your benefits ;not understanding them can disqualify you from owning fire-arms .
Hello again, tom:
When I said that "we'll make quick work", it was a euphemistic we. I'm a felon.. I already can't own a firearm.. The fighting will be done by younger men.Quote:
yeah but what makes you think they will allow you to have weapons ?
I was speaking about the US military, whose shoulders quelling your rebellion would fall on. They have PLENTY of guns, and they're BIGGER than yours.
Excon
We're having a rebellion? What time?
Just people talking on the internet. Nothing to worry about.Quote:
We're having a rebellion? What time?
Hello again, Steve:
Your man, Ted Nugent, said that "If you want another Concord Bridge, I've got some buddies." If you need reminding, the Concord Bridge, was the FIRST battle of the American War of Independence.Quote:
We're having a rebellion? What time?
To ME, that sounds like a threat of war. To YOU, it sounds like an invite to a birthday party. I'm simply saying, BRING it on.
Excon
Really... but only if George Bush isn't the guy in charge... or anyone of his political party, Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
You are aware that YOU have become the Big Brother that you talked and complained about so much in your youth.
You guys lost the last civil war and you had your guns, and now you think the new civil war of ideas and policy will be won with guns? Keep your guns. Why not? The new bullets are the ballots, and its crazy as hell to think it's a way for you to win over your country with a gun... no matter how many bullets you can fire in a minute.
Who do you mean YOU GUYS...Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
The people who suceded were Democrats... more left wing revisionist history...
The facts really are...
20 Of The Most Embarrassing Moments In The History Of The Democrat Party - John Hawkins - [page]
For example, one will virtually never hear that the Palmer Raids, Prohibition, or American eugenics were thoroughly progressive phenomena. These are sins America itself must atone for. Meanwhile, real or alleged “conservative” misdeeds — say McCarthyism — are always the exclusive fault of conservatives and a sign of the policies they would repeat if given power. The only culpable mistake that liberals make is failing to fight “hard enough” for their principles. Liberals are never responsible for historic misdeeds because they feel no compulsion to defend the inherent goodness of America. Conservatives, meanwhile, not only take the blame for events not of their own making that they often worked the most assiduously against, but find themselves defending liberal misdeeds in order to defend America herself. -- Jonah Goldberg
1) The Trail of Tears (1838): The first Democrat President, Andrew Jackson and his successor Martin Van Buren, herded Indians into camps, tormented them, burned and pillaged their homes and forced them to relocate with minimal supplies. Thousands died along the way.
2) Democrats Cause The Civil War (1860): The pro-slavery faction of the Democrat Party responded to Abraham Lincoln's election by seceding, which led to the Civil War.
3) Formation of the KKK (1865): Along with 5 other Confederate veterans, Democrat Nathan Bedford Forrest created the KKK.
4) 300 Black Americans Murdered (1868):"Democrats in Opelousas, Louisiana killed nearly 300 blacks who tried to foil an assault on a Republican newspaper editor."
5) The American Protective League and The Palmer Raids (1919-1921): Under the leadership of Woodrow Wilson, criticizing the government became a crime and a fascist organization, the American Protective League was formed to spy on and even arrest fellow Americans for being insufficiently loyal to the government. More than 100,000 Americans were arrested, with less than 1% of them ever being found guilty of any kind of crime.
6) Democrats Successfully Stop Republicans From Making Lynching A Federal Crime (1922): "The U.S. House adopted Rep. Leonidas Dyer’s (R., Mo.) bill making lynching a federal crime. Filibustering Senate Democrats killed the measure."
7) The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment (1932-1972): Contrary to what you may have heard, Democrats in Alabama did not give black Americans syphilis. However, the experimenters did know that subjects of the experiment unknowingly had syphilis and even after it was proven that penicillin could be used to effectively treat the disease in 1947, the experiments continued. As a result, a number of the subjects needlessly infected their loved ones and died, when they could have been cured.
8) Japanese Internment Camps (1942): Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt issued an executive order that led to more than 100,000 Japanese Americans being put into "bleak, remote camps surrounded by barbed wire and armed guards."
9) Alger Hiss Convicted Of Perjury (1950): Hiss, who helped advise FDR at Yalta and was strongly defended by the Left, turned out to be a Soviet spy. He was convicted of perjury in 1950 (Sadly, the statute of limitations on espionage had run out), but was defended by liberals for decades until the Verona papers proved so conclusively that he was guilty that even most his fellow liberals couldn't continue to deny it.
10) The West Virginia Democrat primary is rigged by John F. Kennedy (1960): From an interview with the late, great Robert Novak.
John Hawkins: You also said that without question, John F. Kennedy rigged the West Virginia Democratic primary in (1960), but that the Wall Street Journal killed the story. Do you think that sort of thing is still occurring with great regularity and do you wish the Journal had reported the story when it happened?
Robert Novak: In my opinion, they should have. They sent two reporters down to West Virginia for six weeks and they came back with a carefully documented story on voter fraud in West Virginia, buying votes, and how he beat Humphrey in the primary and therefore got the nomination. But, Ed Kilgore, the President of Dow Jones and publisher of the Wall Street Journal, a very conservative man, said it wasn’t the business of the Wall Street Journal to decide the nominee of the Democratic Party and he killed the story. That story didn’t come out for many, many years — 30-40 years. It was kept secret all that time.
11) The Bay of Pigs (1961): After training a Cuban militia to overthrow Castro, Kennedy got cold feet and didn't give the men all the air support they were promised. As a result, they were easily defeated by Castro's men and today, Cuba is still ruled by a hostile, anti-American dictatorship.
12) Fire Hoses And Attack Dogs Used On Children (1963): Birmingham, Alabama's notorious Commissioner of Public Safety, Democrat Bull Connor, used attack dogs and fire hoses on children and teenagers marching for civil rights. Ultimately, thousands of them would also be arrested.
13) Stand In The Schoolhouse Door (1963): Democrat George Wallace gave his notorious speech against integrating schools at the University of Alabama in which he said, "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever."
14) Escalation In Vietnam (1964): Lyndon Johnson dramatically escalated our troops’ presence in Vietnam while he simultaneously put political restrictions in place that made the war unwinnable. As a result, 58,000 Americans died in a war that ultimately achieved none of its aims.
15) Chappaquid (1969): The Democrats’ beloved "Liberal Lion" of the Senate, Ted Kennedy ran off the road into a tidal pool with passenger Mary Jo Kopechne in the car. Kennedy swam free and then spent 9 hours plotting how he would reveal the news to the press while she slowly suffocated to death.
16) Democrats Deliver South Vietnam To The North (1975): "In 1975, when there were no Americans left in Vietnam, the left wing of the Democratic Party killed the government of South Vietnam, cut off all of its funding, cut off all of its ammunition, and sent a signal to the world that the United States had abandoned its allies." -- Newt Gingrich
17) The Iranian Hostage Crisis (1979-1981): 52 Americans were held hostage by the government of Iran for 444 days. After Jimmy Carter’s disastrous, failed rescue attempt, the hostages were finally released after Ronald Reagan's inaugural address.
18) Bill Clinton turns down Osama Bin Laden (1996): In Bill Clinton's own words, "'Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan. And we’d been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start meeting with them again. They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.' — Bill Clinton explains to a Long Island, N.Y., business group why he turned down Sudan’s offer to extradite Osama Bin Laden to America in 1996." Had Bill Clinton accepted Sudan's offer, 9/11 would have likely never happened.
19) Bill Clinton was impeached (1998): Clinton became only the 2nd President in American history to be impeached after he lied under oath about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.
20) America loses its AAA credit rating (2011): The United States was first given its AAA credit in 1917, but it couldn’t survive Barack Obama's record breaking spending. In 2011, America lost its AAA credit rating.
Someone said gun control is not about guns; it’s about control. That my friend is what terrifies me about liberal/progressive politics and this administration is on steroids over controlling our lives. I like our rights, why don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Who initiated the searches at the airports? And they have inconvenienced millions to accomplish what?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
What controls has this administration put into place that inconvenience millions?
Are those really serious questions? Or are you really that blind?Quote:
Who initiated the searches at the airports? And they have inconvenienced millions to accomplish what?
What controls has this administration put into place that inconvenience millions?
Ex: " The Army has plenty of ammo. We'll make quick work of your rebellion. "
So, in a country of 300,000,000+, as compared to Iraq (7 or so years) and Afghan. (12 years so far) at about one tenth the population of U.S. each-- it's a cakewalk all of a sudden. Would that be due to the U.S. military quickly swelling up by an influx of enlistees in a country where at present well less than 1% serve in the military? Would it be old has been sailors like you and me Ex- who would be doing all that a** kicking? Or would it be because those blackhawks would be given carte blanche to shoot and ask questions later instead of having some limitations in those present and recently past wars? I am just trying to understand why it becomes so easy here as opposed to "over there".
Because I have seen a lot of abuse and really bad behavior because someone liked their rights but had no respect for the rights of others. So I can understand your fear of progressive policies, and ideas, because they are as foreign to you as the conservatives are to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Gun safety is what we should both be talking about, not just our rights.
I said nothing about 'inconvenience.'Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Oh, so it's not gun 'control,' it's gun 'safety?' Is police inspection of your weapons in your home without a warrant about 'control' or 'safety?'Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
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