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  • Feb 24, 2013, 01:52 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post

    Can you begin to imagine all those PMS hormones flailing around on college campuses and the chicks all have guns? Her boyfriend just dumped her for another girl, and boy, is she loaded for bear!

    I think I'd rather they have whistles. Whistles are easily accessible, always work, are attention getting, and are a lot like the old people's LifeLines.
  • Feb 24, 2013, 03:00 PM
    smearcase
    That college women thing happened in my hometown in western MD. Girl one killed girl 2--with a knife.
    Frostburg State University Girl Stabbed In The Head - DMVFollowers
  • Feb 24, 2013, 03:16 PM
    smearcase
    WG
    Alarm blaring is a factor, maybe increases response time or maybe they flee.
    My neighbors (contract security officers in Iraq) were home for a few weeks in January. Accidentally tripped their own alarm. They only have a cell phone and they had dropped it in the water and it wasn't working so they weren't able to get the call from the alarm company. So the alarm co. called one of their parents about 500 miles away and asked what they should do. The mom tried to call my neighbors- same problem no phone working, so mom said -send the cops. So they had two PA troopers on their porch at midnite telling them that if it happened again they would be charged x dollars.
    That system works better when you aren't home I think.
    Have no idea how much time all that took.

    Quote from Consumer Reports regarding their tests on deadbolt locks:
    Drills easily open most locks

    "With all except the two locks classified as high-security, even an ordinary cordless drill could drill out the cylinders in 2 minutes or less. "

    I'm quite sure that a cordless drill about 40+ feet away (even for two or more minutes) wouldn't wake me. I'm sticking with my plan.
  • Feb 24, 2013, 03:34 PM
    smearcase
    By the way WG, I said:
    "This is the situation I plan to avoid: Being awakened at 3 AM with a gun pointed at my temple, and from that point on -doing whatever in the f*** I am told to do and that applies to my wife and whoever else happens to be unlucky enough to be in the house at that moment. "

    I didn't say it was my starting point, but rather the position I never want to be in. Time to react starts when very loud alarm wakens me, not with thug holding gun to my head. The key is the number of seconds between the two and I have some undisclosed features I won't talk about - designed to make the coming in- more difficult, and features which can alert me before the alarm is tripped. I will say that nothing I haven't considered has been brought up yet.
  • Feb 24, 2013, 04:14 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smearcase View Post
    By the way WG, I said:
    "This is the situation I plan to avoid: Being awakened at 3 AM with a gun pointed at my temple..."

    I apologize to you for reading something that wasn't there.
  • Feb 24, 2013, 04:21 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smearcase View Post
    WG
    Alarm blaring is a factor, maybe increases response time or maybe they flee.
    My neighbors (contract security officers in Iraq) were home for a few weeks in January. Accidently tripped their own alarm. They only have a cell phone and they had dropped it in the water and it wasn't working so they weren't able to get the call from the alarm company. So the alarm co. called one of their parents about 500 miles away

    I would have had a better response hierarchy in place with backup phone numbers from my own household. My mil had one of those LifeLine things with her son three hours away as the first one to be contacted. She fell one day and finally realized while lying on the floor helpless how stupid that was when her other son was less than fifteen minutes away.
  • Feb 24, 2013, 05:10 PM
    smearcase
    I spend half of my life trying to update things like that and/or think them through correctly when I first set them up, but I never get it quite right it seems.
    But hopefully all that mental exercise keeps my brain from totally deteriorating-- any more than it already has.
  • Feb 24, 2013, 05:13 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smearcase View Post
    I spend half of my life trying to update things like that and/or think them through correctly when I first set them up, but I never get it quite right it seems.
    But hopefully all that mental exercise keeps my brain from totally deteriorating-- any more than it already has.

    I think you are doing just fine -- and making us think too. We can always prepare for what we think will be the worst-case scenario and then bingo! Bango! A scenario we never would have thought of bites us in the butt.

    Weren't you the Spam guy at one time?
  • Feb 24, 2013, 05:30 PM
    smearcase
    Are you talking about a user name? No, never been anybody else. Other than eating fried spam on toast with mayo, I have no other spam connections.
    I stumbled on this site in 2007 when I was looking for a recipe for a German dessert that some call German Smear Cake, and my friend that first introduced me to the dessert called smearcase. I think that I probably put smearcase on the wrong line when signing up-- and here I am 6 years later. Lol

    And by the way- I found a great smearcase recipe here that day too!
  • Feb 24, 2013, 05:51 PM
    J_9
    No WG smearcase is not magprob. They are 2 different members.
  • Feb 24, 2013, 07:24 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    No WG smearcase is not magprob. They are 2 different members.

    Ah! Magprob!! How could I forget?? The spinning Spam can.

    Fried Spam on toast with mayo -- makes me hungry just thinking about it!
  • Feb 25, 2013, 06:30 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post

    Or vomit on cue.

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/war-women-662145-131.html#post3400434
  • Feb 25, 2013, 07:08 AM
    speechlesstx
    FYI, 44 firearm companies have stopped selling to law enforcement in states such as New York...

    Gaining Momentum: Now 44 Gun Companies Have Stopped Selling to Law Enforcement In Anti-2nd Amendment States | TheBlaze.com
  • Feb 25, 2013, 07:08 AM
    talaniman
    Excellent points you make SC, awareness and preparations. I like that better than the false security of a weapon against the perceived fear of the government tyranny, or being a targeted victim of evil predators.

    I always make the case between rural, and the big city, because they are different worlds, and the same rules don't really apply the same way, but young people armed among many young people makes little sense especially in the case of sexual predators who dope their victims up rather than hide in the shadows waiting to catch an unaware victim.

    Personally criminals are easier to find and intercept when you can eliminate all the law abiding healthy citizens from the close scrutiny list, and leave NOT so law abiding unhealthy people front and center, so a list of all of us,(census), and a narrower list of gun owners (registered), against a list of sales (background checks) makes a lot of sense to me.

    And yeah I want to be the first to know your crazy kid got YOUR stash of guns and is going to school with them.
  • Feb 25, 2013, 07:14 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    FYI, 44 firearm companies have stopped selling to law enforcement in states such as New York...
    That's the free market at work. I'm sure other companies will fill the void. Companies from outside the US no doubt.
  • Feb 25, 2013, 01:57 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    That's the free market at work. I'm sure other companies will fill the void. Companies from outside the US no doubt.

    Maybe not. The ban extends to stricter enforcement of imports and outright banning them.
  • Feb 25, 2013, 02:01 PM
    tomder55
    NY police have already informed Il Duce that his law restricts them from being supplied with the ammo they need to do their job. Seems he forgot that small detail. Maybe he thinks NY or Newburg cops can become Bobbies with batons .
  • Feb 25, 2013, 02:51 PM
    smearcase
    The Bobbies have whistles too- don't forget, not just the batons.
  • Feb 25, 2013, 03:46 PM
    smoothy
    Stop I say or I shall have to issue another stern warning...


    Dudly Do-Rights reputation is ruined.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAXwG...yer_detailpage
  • Feb 25, 2013, 04:35 PM
    paraclete
    There is nothing else for it you cannot have citizens with ammunition and the cops with none, it is time to take the guns away, then you will have no need of ammunition, it's logical, I cannot see why you haven't seen this before, dumb, I guess

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