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  • Nov 5, 2012, 03:12 PM
    Wondergirl
    Illinois is a Dem state, and we have early voting. And we don't profile Repubs.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 03:18 PM
    speechlesstx
    I'm sure there's no corruption in Illinois.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 03:32 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I'm sure there's no corruption in Illinois.

    We give equal corruption rights to both Dems and Repubs.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 03:39 PM
    speechlesstx
    As opposed to those of us who want to stop the corruption regardless of political affiliation.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 03:48 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    As opposed to those of us who want to stop the corruption regardless of political affiliation.

    At least Illinois makes corruption fair. Now you want to get rid of ALL of it?
  • Nov 5, 2012, 04:45 PM
    speechlesstx
    What's telling is you apparently don't.
  • Nov 5, 2012, 04:57 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    What's telling is you apparently don't.

    Heck, as long as each gets equal opportunity...
  • Nov 6, 2012, 02:26 AM
    TUT317
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Tut, if we had any decent standards of journalism left Obama would lose in a landslide. With a few exceptions they have failed to do their job and hold this administration accountable.

    I can't argue with that.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlessx View Post

    Project Veritas' is not a media outlet so I'm not expecting them to be any more objective than say, Media Matters.

    Interesting perspective portrayed in that article. Are you suggesting that people who head these so-called media outlets are suffering from some type of psychosis? If you are saying this then it would explain a few things.

    Tut
  • Nov 6, 2012, 02:43 AM
    TUT317
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Heck, as long as each gets equal opportunity....

    Hi Wondergirl,

    I think this is the crux of the problem.

    Basically it is the point I have been making all along.

    Opportunity is worth next to nothing unless there is equal access when it comes to Federal elections.

    It is not the opportunity that is the problem- it is equal access that is creating these arguments. The outrage should be centred on equal access. Once you have solved that problem you will go a long way to creating equal opportunity.

    To do it any other way is to try and put the cart before the horse.


    Tut
  • Nov 6, 2012, 04:24 AM
    paraclete
    Neigh
  • Nov 6, 2012, 07:14 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Quote:

    I'm sure there's no corruption in Illinois.
    I'm sure there IS corruption in Texas. What? You guys think you're pure?

    Bwa, ha ha ha..

    Besides, I'd rather be accused of corruption than to have elected a STUPID, STUPID, STUPID Governor. Yup, I remembered the THIRD stupid.

    Excon
  • Nov 6, 2012, 07:23 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Opportunity is worth next to nothing unless there is equal access when it comes to Federal elections.
    I'm all for equal access, I don't see how requiring an ID when people have to have IDs to function anyway denies equal access. The rules apply to all equally.

    I must note however that Wondergirl was referring to equal opportunities at corrupting the process...

    Quote:

    At least Illinois makes corruption fair. Now you want to get rid of ALL of it?
    Yes, yes I do.
  • Nov 6, 2012, 07:29 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    I'm sure there IS corruption in Texas. What? You guys think you're pure?
    I have never given any such indication, hence the need for voter ID.

    Quote:

    Besides, I'd rather be accused of corruption than to have elected a STUPID, STUPID, STUPID Governor. Yup, I remembered the THIRD stupid.
    I've made no secret that I've never been a fan of Gov. Goodhair, who did you want us to elect, Kinky Friedman? Yeah, you probably did.
  • Nov 6, 2012, 08:49 AM
    speechlesstx
    Nothing fishy here...

    Quote:

    Are the Democrats Trying to Steal Pennsylvania? [Updated]

    It is being reported that Democratic Party operatives are evicting court-appointed Republican poll watchers from polling places in Philadelphia. Specifically, this reportedly has happened in Ward 32, Div 13; Ward 43, Div 14; Ward 56, Div 1; Ward 56, Div 22; Ward 32, Div 28; Ward 32, Div 28; Ward 12, Div 17; Ward 39, Div 1; Ward 24, Div 9; Ward 18, Div 25; Ward 43, Div 14; Ward 29, Div 18; Ward 65, Div 19; Ward 20, Div 1; and Ward 6, Div 11. The idea is to kick out the Republicans, then stuff the box with ballots marked for Obama. This is how some of these precincts have achieved 99 to 100% turnout in past elections.

    The story is, as they say, developing…

    UPDATE: The New Black Panthers are out, too, “guarding” the same voting location where they were criminally prosecuted for voter intimidation in 2008.

    The moral is that Republicans don’t just have to win elections, they have to win by an amount that exceeds the margin of fraud.

    UPDATE: The Romney campaign is reporting that 75 Republican poll watchers have been barred from precinct polling places in Philadelphia, in some cases by Democrats saying, “No Republicans will be allowed in the polling place.” The GOP has gone to court and obtained an order from the Philadelphia Court of Common Pleas requiring the Republicans to be admitted to the polls and seated per their legal authority. However, there is no telling what mischief, in the form of voter fraud, the Democrats have committed in the meantime
  • Nov 6, 2012, 08:56 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Even though YOUR poll watchers, True the Vote, are dressed up in nice clothes with shiny cheeks, they're NO LESS an INTIMIDATION factor than the Black Panthers.

    If you're trying to make it appear that Democrats are the only ones doing the dirty tricks, let me smoke some of that same stuff.

    excon
  • Nov 6, 2012, 09:30 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I must note however that Wondergirl was referring to equal opportunities at corrupting the process...

    And you don't recognize sarcasm? Will have to put it in the sarcasm font next time.
  • Nov 6, 2012, 09:33 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    And you don't recognize sarcasm? Will have to put it in the sarcasm font next time.
    The sarcastically challenged one is under another name. I was just letting Tut know you weren't referring to voting access.
  • Nov 6, 2012, 09:35 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Hello again, Steve:

    Even though YOUR poll watchers, True the Vote, are dressed up in nice clothes with shiny cheeks, they're NO LESS an INTIMIDATION factor than the Black Panthers.

    If you're trying to make it appear that Democrats are the only ones doing the dirty tricks, let me smoke some of that same stuff.

    Excon
    Yes, we all know how intimidating those Tea Party grandmas are.
  • Nov 6, 2012, 09:48 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    The sarcastically challenged one is under another name. I was just letting Tut know you weren't referring to voting access.

    Election day hugs to you!
  • Nov 6, 2012, 09:55 AM
    speechlesstx
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    And this is what passes for a neutral polling place in Philly?

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