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  • Sep 20, 2022, 11:08 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Not all of them. What percentage are lawbreakers? And, do they know they need permission to enter another country? If you're from rural Venezuela, would you know?
    100% of illegal immigrants are lawbreakers by definition. Yes, they need permission to enter practically any other country. Try flying into those countries without a passport and see what happens.

    You have not denied that? Oh yes, you did. Post 78. I had said, "Many cross for the purpose of sex-trafficking, gang transactions, or drug trafficking. Happy with that???" You replied, "You are so wrong! Please do some honest research!" Note the exclamation marks, added for emphasis!!

    Perhaps "honest research" is what is needed in your replies?
  • Sep 21, 2022, 03:30 AM
    tomder55
    Why is there no Dem outrage over the number of illegals who die at the border ?

    DeSantis made an important point :

    "Immigrants have been more than willing to leave Bexar County after being abandoned, homeless, and 'left to fend for themselves.' (by the administration)

    Florida gave them an opportunity to seek greener pastures in a sanctuary jurisdiction that offered greater resources for them, as we expected. U​nless the MA national guard has abandoned these individuals, they have been provided accommodations, sustenance, clothing and more options to succeed following their unfair enticement into the United States, unlike the 53 immigrants who died in a truck found abandoned in Bexar County this June."

    He mentions that Texas county because the Sheriff there is trying to make a name for himself by accusing DeSantis and Abbott of human trafficking .

    The truth is that the Clueless Administration is complicit with cartels of being probably the largest human trafficking operation in the world .

    So what is worse ;50 illegals being shipped to an alleged sanctuary region ;or 50 humans suffocating in a truck at the border ?

    Clueless policies have prompted the largest number of unaccompanied minors crossing the border in history, many of whom are under the control of human traffickers, child smugglers, and cartels
    .U.S. shelters received a record 122,000 unaccompanied migrant children in 2021 - CBS News
  • Sep 21, 2022, 04:42 AM
    tomder55
    Why will Charles reign be called the Carolean era ? Is it just because of the name Charles ?
  • Sep 30, 2022, 12:47 PM
    tomder55
    Madam Mimi direct from the Democrat plantation ...

    "We have a shortage of workers in our country. In Florida, some of the farmers and the growers are saying 'why are you shipping these immigrants up North? We need them to pick the crops down here.'"

    " old times they are not forgotten ;look away look away look away Dixieland "

    Pelosi: Florida farmers need immigrants to 'pick the crops' | WCIV (abcnews4.com)
  • Sep 30, 2022, 09:14 PM
    jlisenbe
    We need these illegal immigrants to come in here and pick our crops. Or so say Ms. Pelosi.

    Quote:

    Responding to a question about the topic during the press conference, Pelosi began by admitting that there needs to be both border security and openness to migrants. She said, "The fact is, is that, uh, we have a responsibility to secure our border. We also have a responsibility to recognize the importance of newcomers to our nation. Right now the best thing we can do for our economy is have comprehensive immigration reform."
    She then added, "We have a shortage of workers in our country, and you see even in Florida some of the farmers and the growers saying, ‘Why are you shipping these immigrants up north? We need them to pick the crops down here.’"
  • Oct 1, 2022, 04:11 AM
    tomder55
    She has had a Dem majority in the House since 2006 more or less . At any time she could've taken the necessary steps to secure the border .

    Her message really is that they need illegal aliens to replace the antebellum slaves and to bring new voters in ;dependent on the Dem's largess and compassion.

    But she can't speak of that in so many words . So she says Florida agriculture needs cheap labor citrus pickers . Much better . She get's a dig at DeSantis for moving the illegals to the Dem "sanctuary" cities and states .

    The Dems really fear DeSantis . Give them a day or 2 to start attacking him for hurricane response . It worked for them in 2006 . It worked for them in 2012 .

    I can predict now that the Dems will start a campaign to install drop off mail boxes and permit unprecedented levels of ballot harvesting in Fla.; and maybe SC and NC .
  • Oct 1, 2022, 07:00 AM
    jlisenbe
    I think DeSantis is a legit possibility. Trump has likely crested and his big mouth shows no signs of slowing down which many people find irritating. DeSantis seems to have the ability to take tough stands without being off-putting. We'll see.
  • Oct 1, 2022, 08:37 AM
    tomder55
    it took less time than I thought .The pit bulls at the Slimes are on the attack

    Facing a Dire Storm Forecast in Florida, Officials Delayed Evacuation (msn.com)

    (I linked to MSN because Slimes makes you pay for the birdcage liner )
  • Oct 9, 2022, 04:26 AM
    tomder55
    NYC Mayor is begging Clueless Joe for relief . NYC has had an influx of illegals. They are not coming from Texas or Florida . They are being transported by midnight flights and bus rides provided by Clueless .

    Friday Mayor Adams official invoked a state of emergency and is asking for Federal and State assistance.

    NYC mayor declares state of emergency amid migrant busing crisis | Reuters


    But Mayor Adams called NYC a sanctuary city only 2 weeks ago .

    Dem New York City Mayor Eric Adams: NYC Will Continue To Be "Sanctuary City" For Illegal Immigrants - YouTube

    Perspectives change when the rubber meets the road.
  • Oct 12, 2022, 07:24 AM
    jlisenbe
    The continuous disregard for the truth by the Biden admin has become tiresome.

    Quote:

    Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas was told that the photographer who captured a clash between Border Patrol agents and Haitian migrants in Del Rio had said that the incident was being misconstrued -- hours before Mayorkas joined a White House press conference where he didn’t challenge the false narrative.
    The Sept. 24, 2021 email, obtained by the Heritage Foundation via a Freedom of Information Act request (FOIA), shines light onto internal deliberations surrounding the controversy in Del Rio, Texas, where Democrats and the White House pushed a narrative that migrants had been "whipped" or "strapped" by Border Patrol agents despite it being quickly debunked.
    In fact, agents were using split reins to control their houses as migrants rushed across the river. But a narrative, based on a misinterpretation of photographs, was running and on Sept. 24 was further fueled by President Biden.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/may...ess-conference

    Biden's response was the typical anti-law enforcement narrative we have come to expect from democrats. "To see people treated like they did, horses barely running over, people being strapped — it's outrageous. I promise you, those people will pay. There will be an investigation underway now, and there will be consequences. There will be consequences."

    There were consequences alright, in spite of the fact that it soon became obvious that Biden had no idea of what he was talking about, and that the investigation would show the that no one was whipped or run over. How much longer must we endure this person???
  • Oct 12, 2022, 03:09 PM
    tomder55
    the agents still face adminstrative disciplinary action even though DHS knew hours before the presser that the narrative was a blatant lie.
  • Oct 19, 2022, 04:26 AM
    tomder55
    Clueless Joe is getting desperate . He adopted Trump's send them back to Mexico policy that he had originally reversed by EO and had created the hordes of illegals migration after they correctly concluded that he was an open border Dem.

    But he is getting hammered politically . So he spoke to Dem mayor of El Paso Oscar Leeser and told him to NOT declare a state of emergency over the invasion.

    Rep Tony Gonzales confirmed the report .
  • Nov 3, 2022, 05:33 AM
    tomder55
    update .

    Poland began construction of a razor wire wall across it's entire border with the Russian exclave Kaliningrad ;about 130 miles . This is in response to the Russian regional airport ,Khrabrovo Airport, that will begin to accept flights from the Middle East.
    The concern is that Russia will direct "asylum seekers " aka llegal immigrants to the Polish border for entry ino the EU.

    The razor wire is temporary . A more permanent wall will be built similar to the one Poland has with Russia's puppet colony state Belarus. Poland was swarmed with so called asylum seekers from Belarus .In that case Belarus was forcing them to cross the border .Poland in turn was forcing them back to Belarus . The wall is an 18 feet steel wall with electronic monitors .

    Poland is the last of the EU countries to erect a barrier with it's Russian border .[FONT=Exchange, Georgia, serif]Finland, Estonia, and Latvia are all constructing fencing along their Russian borders; with some stretches already complete. [/FONT]
  • Nov 3, 2022, 06:03 AM
    jlisenbe
    Hmmm. "Build a wall." Now that's a novel idea. It certainly seems better than just casting off all restraints and allowing a tidal wave of who knows who to just come rolling across.
  • Nov 8, 2022, 03:32 AM
    tomder55
    DHS data for the end of the fiscal year are out . It don't look good .

    CBP Enforcement Statistics Fiscal Year 2022 | U.S. Customs and Border Protection

    Clueless Joe's administration shattered a US record by apprehending nearly 2.4 million illegal aliens along the Mexican border(227,547 illegals in September alone).

    Border Patrol agents arrested hundreds of gang members—mostly from Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13). 751 gang members compared to 348 in 2021. 312 of those belong to the MS-13. More than 145 members of Paisas, a prison gang from Mexico, were also apprehended.... 146 from the 18th Street LA gang.



    98 people on the national terrorist watchlist were arrested ;compared to 16 in 2021 . This is a growing trend . A man from Bangladesh was running a human smuggling operation on the Mexican border with Guatemala ,and was sentenced last year .

    Man Sentenced for Role in International Human Smuggling Conspiracy | OPA | Department of Justice

    This reflects a growing demographic of illegal aliens from terrorist nations entering the U.S. through Mexico. The government classifies them as Special Interest Aliens (SIA) .Tens of thousands of SIAs entered Panama and Colombia in recent years mostly from Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, Bangladesh, and India.

    One can only imagine how many of the list above escaped capture and infiltrated into the US.

    The Del Rio sector in Texas saw the most traffic with 480,930 illegals , an increase of 85% over 2021. The Rio Grande Valley sector ,468,124 encounters...Yuma in Arizona (310,094), El Paso (307,884) and Tucson (251,984).
  • Nov 16, 2022, 02:12 PM
    tomder55
    The Scmuckster weighed in on amnesty . This clown who advocates for infanticide is saying Americans don't make enough babies and that is why we need to legalize the illegal aliens pouring into the country .

    Chuck Schumer Calls for Citizenship for All Illegal Aliens - The Maine Wire
  • Nov 17, 2022, 12:37 PM
    tomder55
    remember when it was a racist conspiracy theory to suggest the Great Replacement Theory ?


    Quote:

    United States

    Main article: Great replacement in the United States
    The Great replacement in the United States is the American version of a white nationalist far-right conspiracy theory that racial minorities are displacing the traditional white American population and taking control of the nation. Versions of the theory "have become commonplace" in the Republican Party of the United States, and have become a major issue of political debate. It also has stimulated violent responses including mass murders



    Great Replacement - Wikipedia


    Well that was then . This is now .


    "Now more than ever we're short of workers. We have a population that is not reproducing on its own with the same level that it used to. The only way we’re going to have a great future in America is if we welcome and embrace immigrants -- the DREAMers and all of them -- because our ultimate goal is to help the DREAMers -- but get a path to citizenship for all 11 million, or however many undocumented, there are here."

    Schumer Calls For Path To Citizenship For "All 11 Million, Or However Many" Illegal Immigrants There Are | Video | RealClearPolitics
  • Nov 17, 2022, 06:19 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    remember when it was a racist conspiracy theory to suggest the Great Replacement Theory ?

    Ergo, you now support the racist theory, and are against immigration? Where did your forefathers emigrate from, Tomder?
  • Nov 18, 2022, 04:16 AM
    tomder55
    Schmuck Schumer appears to be all in for it . So do most of the Dems who speak honestly about it .

    I am against ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION I am against open borders . I am against immigrants cutting the line to come here before people who have properly filled for entry . My ancestors followed the law their first act in their new adopted country was not breaking the law.
  • Nov 18, 2022, 06:14 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Ergo, you now support the racist theory, and are against immigration?
    So supporting the rule of law is now being a "racist"? Hmm.

    Quote:

    Where did your forefathers emigrate from, Tomder?
    This is the type of question that liberals consider to be of the "gotcha" variety. You answered it well. Practically all immigration into our country prior to the past 20 years or so was of the legal variety. Strange how this business of honoring the concept of law seems to be so foreign to liberals.
  • Nov 18, 2022, 02:18 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    My ancestors followed the law their first act in their new adopted country was not breaking the law.

    Your ancestor's first act doing something was NOT doing something? Hmmm...
  • Dec 20, 2022, 04:46 PM
    tomder55
    NYC mayor Eric Adams on the influx of illegal aliens into the city

    Our shelter system is full, and we are nearly out of money, staff, and space. Truth be told, if corrective measures are not taken soon, we may very well be forced to cut or curtail programs New Yorkers rely on


    “We’ve asked both the state and federal government for funding, for space to house asylum seekers, for staff, for workforce authorizations and, most importantly, a long-term strategy to ensure asylum seekers are sent to other cities,” he said. “Our requests for assistance have been mostly ignored.”

    Mayor Adams says NYC is not prepared for influx of migrants as federal rule expires - Gothamist

    Asking the Guv ;asking Clueless will get him nowhere. NYC is not even close to experiencing what the border cities have endured with this open border policy of the Dems .
  • Dec 20, 2022, 10:32 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    “We’ve asked both the state and federal government for funding
    So they are asking the feds for money? Interesting.
  • Dec 21, 2022, 02:29 AM
    tomder55
    This is what Mayor Adams should remember

    Candidate Biden Calls On Illegal Immigrants to Surge the Border - YouTube
  • Dec 21, 2022, 06:22 AM
    jlisenbe
    He can do those things because he knows the liberal media has his back. That include Martha Raddatz making this insane claim.

    Quote:

    ABC News Chief Global Affairs Correspondent Martha Raddatz pressed Texas Governor Greg Abbott (R) on his criticisms for President Joe Biden's handling of the border crisis because she has never heard Biden say "'we have an open border.'"
    Here's Who Martha Raddatz Thinks Is to Blame for America's 'Open Border' (townhall.com)
  • Dec 27, 2022, 06:42 PM
    tomder55
    Remember when the Dems pretended to be concerned about the fate of the illegal aliens ?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fk_Rr_SX...jpg&name=small

    This is El Paso now because of the heartless Dem policies

    https://images.dailycaller.com/image...598852923.jpeg
  • Dec 27, 2022, 07:00 PM
    Athos
    Any comment on the heartless moving of migrants, including young children and babies, being shipped to a destination and not being told of the destination which was the home of VP Harris? Transported without winter clothing in 18 degree temps? Some wearing only t-shirts disembarking to the cold streets from the bus?

    ON CHRISTMAS EVE!!!!!!

    Do you remember the story of the baby Jesus being born in a manger because there was no room at the inn? Do you think Texas Governor Abbot enjoys playing Herod? Do YOU enjoy that role?

    Let the little ones come unto me, said Jesus. Not, send them out in the cold to make a political statement.

    The Republican Parry and their silent witnesses have reached a new low.
  • Dec 28, 2022, 03:15 AM
    tomder55
    So Abbot is to blame for the border crisis . I get it . Kam the Sham is the border czar . Maybe she should 'let them have a room at the Inn'. The streets of El Paso were in the 30 degree range Christmas weekend . Thousands of illegals slept on the streets 'without winter clothing' because Dems let hundreds of thousands and many busloads enter without legal places in the Inn .

    When All Out Crazy did her act at the detention center the illegals had a bed ;a blanket ,and were fed .

    When Joseph traveled with his family to Bethlehem ;he was moving his family legally due to a government decree . He was not attempting to violate the law and enter Bethlehem illegally .

    Many of these illegals paid $ thousands to smugglers to help them invade. Did they forget to buy coats ?
  • Dec 28, 2022, 06:21 AM
    jlisenbe
    If Trump was presiding over this lunacy, the liberal dems on this board would have their hair on fire, but since it's Biden at the wheel, we just get platitudes about Joseph and Mary. It never changes.
  • Dec 28, 2022, 03:58 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    So Abbot is to blame for the border crisis . I get it

    No Tom, you don't get it. I never blamed Abbot for the border crisis. I blame Abbot for his incredible insensitivity and downright cruelty for what he did on CHRISTMAS EVE - OF ALL DAYS.

    Your Joseph story couldn't be more inappropriate, as is your sarcastic tone!

    When Republicans stoop so low, I wonder if there is any hope left for the Grand Old Party.
  • Dec 28, 2022, 04:28 PM
    tomder55
    I get a kick when people who don't respect Christianity and call the Bible fables run to cite it when it serves their purpose.

    On Christmas Eve; across Texas and all the border states ,thousands of illegals slept on the streets in cities and towns because Clueless Joe's "SURGE " encouraged them to take a perilous journey and hire human trafficers to help them illegally cross the border . El Paso does not have room "at the Inn" to service the residence of El Paso who need assistance . So spare me the fake tears and faux outrage about Abbott. If anyone is to blame it is the man who said .


    Candidate Biden Calls On Illegal Immigrants to Surge the Border - YouTube
  • Dec 28, 2022, 04:36 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I get a kick when people who don't respect Christianity and call the Bible fables run to cite it when it serves their purpose.

    Where in the world did you ever get the idea that I don't respect Christianity? Hopefully, not from any fundamentalists you pal around with. Now, THAT branch of Christianity I oppose, but even there do not disrespect. I DO disrespect some adherents of fundamentalism, but that's due to the person - not the belief.
  • Dec 29, 2022, 05:46 AM
    tomder55
    December 22 ICE sent a letter to Syracuse U 'Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse' (TRAC)that it had no records of 377,980 illegals it had released into the country wearing tracking devices in an' Alternatives to Detention' (ATD) program.

    ICE Admits It Has ‘No Records’ For Hundreds Of Thousands Of Illegal Immigrants Released With Electronic Monitors | The Daily Caller

    According to ICE the ATD
    allows for closer monitoring of non-detained noncitizens at varying levels of supervision, using several different monitoring technologies. ATD effectively increases court appearance rates, compliance with release conditions, and helps the participants meet basic needs and understand immigration obligations.”

    yeah right .

    ICE hosts Alternatives to Detention program symposium | ICE
  • Dec 29, 2022, 06:27 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    I get a kick when people who don't respect Christianity and call the Bible fables run to cite it when it serves their purpose.
    Well said. Christianity is a pretty easy religion when a person can simply ignore the parts of the Bible that don't agree with his or her preconceived ideas.

    Losing track of nearly four hundred thousand illegals is probably a fairly simple proposition when you don't really care about keeping up with them to begin with.
  • Dec 29, 2022, 08:39 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    December 22 ICE sent a letter to Syracuse U 'Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse' (TRAC)that it had no records of 377,980 illegals it had released into the country wearin..........

    According to ICE the ATD
    allows for closer monitoring of non-detained noncitizens at varying levels of sies. ATD effectively increases court appearance rates, compliance with release conditions, and helps the participants meet basic needs and understand immigration obligations.”

    yeah right .

    The above is a reply to my post here ??

    Quote:

    Where in the world did you ever get the idea that I don't respect Christianity? Hopefully, not from any fundamentalists you pal around with. Now, THAT branch of Christianity I oppose, but even there do not disrespect. I DO disrespect some adherents of fundamentalism, but that's due to the person - not the belief.
  • Dec 29, 2022, 11:44 AM
    tomder55
    no I chose not to get into a religious discussion .
  • Dec 29, 2022, 02:15 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    no I chose not to get into a religious discussion .

    Ok. I understand. I felt it necessary to reply to your comment on the Christmas Eve post.
  • Dec 30, 2022, 03:40 AM
    tomder55
    here is the ICE letter admitting their ahem mistake .Why is this not headline news on all the compliant press ? It is that big a deal
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlCDSQ3W...jpg&name=small
  • Dec 30, 2022, 05:15 AM
    jlisenbe
    So the problem is that records seem to have been destroyed or removed?
  • Dec 30, 2022, 05:48 AM
    tomder55
    ERO is where ICE is supposed to remove illegals from the country after a final determination of their status.

    The records of those released into the country under the Alternative to Detention program....which is supposed to provide for " closer monitoring of non-detained noncitizens at varying levels of supervision, using several different monitoring technologies"... were either never kept ;went missing; or were destroyed .

    ICE hosts Alternatives to Detention program symposium | ICE

    I believe they never intended to keep track of the illegals released into the country

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