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  • Mar 13, 2021, 12:35 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Don't be evasive. Do you think that Cuomo and Biden are as guilty as you say Trump is?

    We have Trump's admissions of guilt (actually bragging about it) on video.
  • Mar 13, 2021, 01:17 PM
    jlisenbe
    No, you don't. But you do have seven women now who have accused your hero, Cuomo, and we have your absolute refusal to stand up for assaulted women when it's a prime-time liberal dem who is accused of doing it. I'm amazed you are OK with that. It drips with hypocrisy. But at least you're in like company with Biden and Harris.
  • Mar 13, 2021, 01:23 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    No, you don't.

    Here's an audio to get you going.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WhsSzIS84ks

    From Wikipedia regarding the above:

    On October 7, 2016, during the 2016 United States presidential election, The Washington Post published a video and accompanying article about then-presidential candidate Donald Trump and television host Billy Bush having "an extremely lewd conversation about women" in 2005. Trump and Bush were in a bus on their way to film an episode of Access Hollywood, a show owned by NBCUniversal. In the video, Trump described his attempt to seduce a married woman and indicated he might start kissing a woman that he and Bush were about to meet. He added, "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab 'em by the . You can do anything."[1] Commentators and lawyers have described such an action as sexual assault.[2]
  • Mar 13, 2021, 02:50 PM
    paraclete
    Why do we need this Trump is history, over the next four years he will fade, if you can find a republican who can stand up, put two words together and stand for nothing, why don't you ask Jerry Seinfeld
  • Mar 13, 2021, 05:42 PM
    jlisenbe
    The problem with your theory is that no name was ever associated with it. No name = no crime. Now if you want to suggest that Trump's comments were sickening, then you've got a point. But when you absolutely refuse to even whisper the names of Biden and Cuomo, then it makes it pretty clear that you have little interest in defending women and great interest in scoring political points.
  • Mar 13, 2021, 08:13 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    The problem with your theory is that no name was ever associated with it. No name = no crime. Now if you want to suggest that Trump's comments were sickening, then you've got a point. But when you absolutely refuse to even whisper the names of Biden and Cuomo, then it makes it pretty clear that you have little interest in defending women and great interest in scoring political points.

    Nice try to switch the argument Tom, you don't want to talk about Trump, you want to talk about women's issues. The day of chivalry is over, women can defend themselves, they played the defenseless me card too often. Ok Trump took advantage of women, money and power enables men like him to do that, but tarring every male with the same brush as women do is a bridge too far. Let us move on from yesterday's man, Trump and discuss some real issues, like what is Biden going to do about China, he has been strangely silent since he took office
  • Mar 14, 2021, 05:50 AM
    jlisenbe
    The post you referred to was by JL, not Tom.

    https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/...FvBeXwlc-bgQ3c
  • Mar 14, 2021, 04:28 PM
    paraclete
    perspective is everything
  • Mar 21, 2021, 07:45 AM
    jlisenbe
    Thank goodness for the Biden admin's commitment to openness.

    "Biden giving media 'zero access' to border operations."

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/photoj...rol-operations
  • Mar 21, 2021, 08:25 AM
    talaniman
    Cleaning up the dufus mess is a works in progress
  • Mar 21, 2021, 06:08 PM
    paraclete
    Oh come on Tal, Biden needs to get an agenda of his own and ditch the cancel culture
  • Mar 22, 2021, 05:33 AM
    jlisenbe
    For liberal dems, it always comes back to criticizing their republican predecessor. Obama did the same thing. It's because they really can't defend what they're doing.

    Saw this earlier today on another site. If you're wondering why the influx of unescorted minor illegals across our border is a concern to Biden, it's not the number but rather the age that bothers him. The young ones can not come across and immediately become democrat voters as they're too young!
  • Mar 22, 2021, 05:50 AM
    tomder55
    https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...62&oe=607C91CD
  • Mar 22, 2021, 07:00 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Oh come on Tal, Biden needs to get an agenda of his own and ditch the cancel culture

    Hard to argue such twisted fuzzy logic as that Clete.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    For liberal dems, it always comes back to criticizing their republican predecessor. Obama did the same thing. It's because they really can't defend what they're doing.

    That's a pretty weird spin on the dufus's administration which was so bad he got fired after being impeached twice. Why does Joe and dems have to defend needing more mops to clean up the mess the dufus and repubs left?

    Quote:

    Saw this earlier today on another site. If you're wondering why the influx of unescorted minor illegals across our border is a concern to Biden, it's not the number but rather the age that bothers him. The young ones can not come across and immediately become democrat voters as they're too young!
    The only ones doing the wondering is the righties who defend the dufus and repubs for failing to even address the mess at the southern border. Yeah criticize Joe and the dems for it which is typical right wing failure to be responsible for the 4 years of words, actions, and deeds that got you booted from the house, senate, and white house.

    Same response to the Tomder cartoon.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 07:57 AM
    jlisenbe
    It's just like the crisis on the border (which doesn't exist) which was caused by the Trump admin. Hilarious.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 08:41 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    For liberal dems, it always comes back to criticizing their republican predecessor. Obama did the same thing. It's because they really can't defend what they're doing.

    Thank goodness dems have never ever heard repubs crab about Obama.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    It's just like the crisis on the border (which doesn't exist) which was caused by the Trump admin. Hilarious.

    And Trump so cleverly and deftly solved the southern border problem by building that big, unscalable, beautiful wall!
  • Mar 22, 2021, 09:44 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    And Trump so cleverly and deftly solved the southern border problem by building that big, unscalable, beautiful wall!
    Illegal crossings have skyrocketed with Biden, so whatever Trump did, Harris should copy it. She would be wise to finish the wall which is working in the areas where it's located.

    BTW, Wondergirl, I am patiently waiting for you to hammer the Harris admin for locking up children and teens in the same way you did Trump. Or is your outrage merely politically driven???
  • Mar 22, 2021, 10:19 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Illegal crossings have skyrocketed with Biden, so whatever Trump did, Harris should copy it. She would be wise to finish the wall which is working in the areas where it's located.

    Oh, now it's on Harris. I get it!
    Quote:

    BTW, Wondergirl, I am patiently waiting for you to hammer the Harris admin for locking up children and teens in the same way you did Trump. Or is your outrage merely politically driven???
    I have no clue as to what you're talking about. I "hammered" Trump about locking up children and teens? You have me confused with someone else. I didn't/don't like the idea but it was supposedly done for their safety. How did that work out?
  • Mar 22, 2021, 10:39 AM
    talaniman
    You fringers never quit. Not only has Joe started the clean up and recovery of the dufus mess, but it's all hands on deck at the mess the right keeps making as we speak. It's going to be embarrassing when the pictures do finally come out of the humane treatment of migrants and citizens but also realizing the whole world is happy and relieved we are solving our dufus and right wing loony problems.

    I don't think the right realizes yet how big of a mess they have made of things, or how enormous the task is to restore sanity and good orderly direction to the country. Of course nobody expects any help from them, since they may need all the help we can give our wayward misguided fellow citizens.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 10:52 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Oh, now it's on Harris. I get it!
    I really wish you did.

    Quote:

    I have no clue as to what you're talking about. I "hammered" Trump about locking up children and teens? You have me confused with someone else. I didn't/don't like the idea but it was supposedly done for their safety. How did that work out?
    Right. It was just someone else named "Wondergirl".
  • Mar 22, 2021, 10:54 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Right. It was just someone else named "Wondergirl".

    Please quote three statements I made on this site where I "hammered" Trump.

    P.S. Hammer means attack or criticize forcefully and relentlessly. Um, you don't know me very well.That's not my style.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 11:06 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Same response to the Tomder cartoon.
    wonder when Saturday Night Live will run skits of Quid tripping up the steps .

    Quote:

    The only ones doing the wondering is the righties who defend the dufus and repubs for failing to even address the mess at the southern border. Yeah criticize Joe and the dems for it which is typical right wing failure to be responsible for the 4 years of words, actions, and deeds that got you booted from the house, senate, and white house.
    There is the equivalent of a major American city illegally crossing the border daily since Quid became President . Most of them are here because Quid during the election said they would be welcome .
    I don't blame them . Many of them made a perilous journey through the Darien Gap between Colombia and Panama . The Darien Gap is as close to Dante's hell as there is on earth . Many of the unaccompanied kids are because their parents were murdered on the way.
    None of them would've made that journey if not for quid's promises of entering the land of milk and honey . The fault for the current crisis is SOLEY on Quid .

    Tracing a Perilous Journey | Duke Today
  • Mar 22, 2021, 11:14 AM
    jlisenbe
    How does four sound???

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showth...44#post3860044

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showth...97#post3860097

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showth...27#post3861027

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showth...53#post3852653

    Now see how easy it is to just simply answer a question? It doesn't require jumping through hoops, being evasive, looking the other way, or being afraid of having your beliefs examined. You simply put down an answer.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 11:30 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    wonder when Saturday Night Live will run skits of Quid tripping up the steps .
    Don't hold your breath, Tom.

    https://scontent.fmem1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...7c&oe=607D1EBA
  • Mar 22, 2021, 11:41 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    How does four sound???

    That's me hammering Trump? Let me define that word again for you: Hammer means attack or criticize forcefully and relentlessly. There was NO hammering going on in those posts of mine you unearthed.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 11:44 AM
    jlisenbe
    You answered a question? I must have missed it.

    I will concede that hammer was too harsh a term. Perhaps we could simply use "criticize". So when do you intend to criticize Biden and Harris for their treatment of children and teens on the border?
  • Mar 22, 2021, 12:19 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I will concede that hammer was too harsh a term. Perhaps we could simply use "criticize". So when do you intend to criticize Biden and Harris for their treatment of children and teens on the border?

    I will do my utmost (as this plays out) not only to criticize Biden and Harris for their handling of southern-border refugees, but will suggest helps and possible solutions. Wish I were younger and could go down there to throw in ideas.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 01:14 PM
    jlisenbe
    I suppose your reply passes at some level as criticism. As to solutions, a wall across the southern border would stop 95% of the problem.

    Still waiting on you to level at least the same amount of disapproval toward Cuomo as you did towards Kavanaugh. Wouldn't basic fairness dictate a response?
  • Mar 22, 2021, 01:22 PM
    jlisenbe
    https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxne....jpg?ve=1&tl=1https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxne....jpg?ve=1&tl=1
  • Mar 22, 2021, 01:23 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I suppose your reply passes at some level as criticism. As to solutions, a wall across the southern border would stop 95% of the problem.

    That was tried by a master businessman -- and it failed. Also, it has been shown that any wall can be scaled or tunneled under.
    Quote:

    Still waiting on you to level at least the same amount of disapproval toward Cuomo as you did towards Kavanaugh. Wouldn't basic fairness dictate a response?
    Cuomo is up for the Supreme Court?
  • Mar 22, 2021, 01:29 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    That was tried by a master businessman -- and it failed. Also, it has been shown that any wall can be scaled or tunneled under.
    Some of it is up. Want to guess how many tunnels are under it?

    Quote:


    Cuomo is up for the Supreme Court?


    Good grief. What a pathetic excuse. So sexual assault is OK so long is it is now a SC nominee accused of it? Wow. That's really a new low.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 01:37 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Some of it is up. Want to guess how many tunnels are under it?

    No tunnels needed. We walk around the short sections that were built.
    Quote:

    Good grief. What a pathetic excuse. So sexual assault is OK so long is it is now a SC nominee accused of it? Wow. That's really a new low.
    You totally missed the point.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 01:51 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    We walk around the short sections that were built.
    Maybe you should ponder that a bit.

    Quote:

    You totally missed the point.
    I got the point completely. More of the slick evasiveness. You don't want your beliefs examined, so you just punt. It's been your MO since forever.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 01:59 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Maybe you should ponder that a bit.

    Ponder as we walk?
    Quote:

    I got the point completely. More of the slick evasiveness. You don't want your beliefs examined, so you just punt. It's been your MO since forever.
    Nope, you missed the point completely. I'll help you a bit with a hint: Why did I object to Kavanaugh being a Supreme?
  • Mar 22, 2021, 03:56 PM
    jlisenbe
    I think I understand the point entirely. You don't like answering questions because it opens up your beliefs to scrutiny and you don't like that. So you just toss out silliness such as, "I'll help you a bit with a hint." You would be much more helpful with some courage. Alas, I don't expect to see it.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 04:06 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I think I understand the point entirely. You don't like answering questions because it opens up your beliefs to scrutiny and you don't like that. So you just toss out silliness such as, "I'll help you a bit with a hint." You would be much more helpful with some courage. Alas, I don't expect to see it.

    The point (two of them):
    1. What office was Kavanaugh up for?
    2. What office does Cuomo hold?
    See the difference? Ah, well. You still refuse to think about it and the difference between the two offices and why I was more concerned with Kavanaugh becoming a Supreme than I am with Cuomo retaining his current position. (And, btw, no matter what answer I give you, you'll claim I'm wrong -- and probably have a proof passage to toss into my face.)
  • Mar 22, 2021, 04:16 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    That was tried by a master businessman -- and it failed. Also, it has been shown that any wall can be scaled or tunneled under.
    Some are scaling the wall . Not to the degree of the invasion now. Most are walking through the gaps in the wall .
  • Mar 22, 2021, 04:33 PM
    jlisenbe
    So it’s ok for a DEMOCRAT gov to sexually assault several women, but not ok for a SCOTUS justice to be accused of one such incident when he was a teen. Why yes, that explains it!!
  • Mar 22, 2021, 04:35 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So it’s ok for a DEMOCRAT gov to sexually assault several women, but not ok for a SCOTUS justice to be accused of one such incident when he was a teen. Why yes, that explains it!!

    Why are you so sexually repressed??? Sexually obsessed??? Groping is what teen boys and men do! Look beyond that! Sheesh!
  • Mar 22, 2021, 04:38 PM
    jlisenbe
    No wonder you don’t want your beliefs examined. If I believed that foolishness I wouldn’t answer questions either.

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