I refer to post #94
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I refer to post #94
Exactly. It is precisely the kind of truthful post that goes, by personal choice, in one ear and out the other of the liberal dems on this board.
I tried to ignore this revision of history, because the dufus's words and actions made things worse as evidence by current events. Of course this was a bigger disaster and he didn't rise to the challenge, just the opposite he LIED about it and what he was doing about it which was next to nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Only the dufusites bought his crap and thankfully enough people with good sense got his a$$ out of office. It's going to get a lot worse unfortunately.
Trump has always wanted testing to stop because there would be fewer covid cases if no tests. And the vaccine was developed in spite of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keANzinHWUA&t=425Quote:
thankfully enough people with good sense got his a$$ out of office
It would be hard to imagine any two statements any more absurd, or any more devoid of evidence, than these.Quote:
Trump has always wanted testing to stop because there would be fewer covid cases if no tests. And the vaccine was developed in spite of him.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aN1eptTaWVMQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/co...nded-by-trump/
Your Snopes link is ridiculous in that it applies to one company out of six.
""No doubt, Operation Warp Speed is a huge success," said Tinglong Dai, associate professor of Operations Management and Business Analytics at Johns Hopkins University Carey Business School in Baltimore."You can like or hate the Trump administration, but no doubt, it's a huge success — unprecedented success."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/opera...cine-1.5806820
The Youtube video was beyond ridiculous. Trump's point was clearly that an abundance of testing is showing an abundance of cases. You have somehow twisted that to mean something completely absurd.
Thus, his conclusion is (and he said it more than once), if we stop testing, the number of cases will go down.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Only non-thinkers understand that to mean that testing is somehow causing disease. His comment was to the effect that we know about a lot of cases that we might not have paid much attention to otherwise except that they were made obvious by testing. The truth is, the great majority of Covid cases come and go without any great threat the a person's life or health.
Here's your great liberal dem gov of Cali following his own rules. After lying about it and pretending they were outside, a reporter got this pic out to show the whole deal. I'm sure all of the "I hate lying" liberal dems on this site will react vigorously. See the masks? Yeah, I don't either. And they were putting their kids at risk! Oh the inhumanity of it all!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-...73-600x386.jpg
Yup! You pegged him perfectly!Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Just like you Christians who don't think you can worship God unless you're spitting saliva droplets at each other as you lustily sing hymns.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Once again you are incorrect. I have no affection for "spitting saliva droplets". That would be much more likely for someone reading a porn book, would it not? Otherwise, very naturally, since Newsom is a liberal dem and not associated with Trump, you are cheerfully able to pass right by and say nothing critical of his lying and hypocrisy. Does he write porn, too?Quote:
Just like you Christians who don't think you can worship God unless you're spitting saliva droplets at each other as you lustily sing hymns.
TDS. No doubt about it.
But I will say that I do love the hymns and do love to sing them. I like a number of genres of Christian music. I led singing for 20 years and got a lot out of it. And yes, if we are going to sing of God, it should be done with heart and soul, for He is certainly worthy of it.
You've never seen the laser imaging and high-speed videography that show how thousands of saliva droplets that are too small to see with the naked eye are emitted in normal speech and singing?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I have, and in fact I didn't say I didn't do it. I said I have no affection for it. But at any rate, wouldn't that make you one of those, "Christians who don't think you can worship God unless you're spitting saliva droplets at each other as you lustily sing hymns?"Quote:
You've never seen the laser imaging and high-speed videography that show how thousands of saliva droplets that are too small to see with the naked eye are emitted in normal speech and singing?
I'm doing church at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
You ever wonder how evidence is abundant on social media and the court of public opinion, but never enters the court of law?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Newsome screwed up, what an idiot move. Pales in comparison to the dufus antics that he passes for leadership and small wonder America is getting it's a$$ kicked by the bug.
And again. What do you propose that we do which is not already being done, other than getting rid of hypocritical dem govs?
Interesting link. The video is by Falun Gong, a very weird Chinese society who believe Trump is on earth to be their saviour and defeat Chinese CommunismQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
They claim that aliens started invading human minds in the beginning of the 20th century, leading to mass corruption and the invention of computers. They have also denounced feminism and homosexuality and claim their leader can walk through walls and levitate.
Any more videos, tomder?
Stop listening to the loonies who say do NOTHING. Or at least take the stupid tin foil hat off your head. Not a good look.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
So for the six hundredth and thirty fifth time, what do you suggest we do that is not currently being done? Your pathetic references to loonies, foil hats, and cookware were silly to begin with and have not improved with time. They look more and more like a smoke screen to hide behind.
For the millionth time, put people before profits and flattening the curb is a simple matter. Less sick, less dying. Manageable. I've been say that from the beginning, but talking to a dufusite is useless. You just run off on some loony tangent and ignore the problem.
YOU'RE THE PROBLEM!
1. wear a mask when out and aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
2. maintain a good social distance
3. daily take iron, vitamin C, zinc, aspirin or tylenol, and famotidine
4. Drink plenty of water; stay hydrated
Why would you want to flatten a "curb"? Are your streets too high? "Less sick. Less dying." Why on earth didn't we all think of that one? While we're at it, we could just go "whoosh!" and blow the whole thing away.Quote:
flattening the curb
If you ever come up with any REAL ideas, then get back with me. You know, something more than, "Less sick, and less dying." Cause I got to tell you, Homey ain't putting up with that! (I'm telling you, it's a keeper.)
This was supposed to be about ideas NOT already being employed.Quote:
1. wear a mask when out and about
2. maintain a good social distance
3. daily take iron, vitamin C, zinc, aspirin or tylenol, and famotidine
4. Drink plenty of water; stay hydrated
Unfortunately, most of them aren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Only in Chicago, evidently, or in California at a liberal dem governor's birthday party. Come to Mississippi where we are employing all of them other than possibly #3. I honestly have no idea what most people are doing in their own homes. And are you aware that your new pres is NOT going to mandate wearing masks or social distancing??? Homey ain't going to put up with that!
#3 is the most important one in that list!Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Not true, buddy boy.Quote:
your new pres is NOT going to mandate wearing masks or social distancing
How do you propose that our government mandate that?Quote:
#3 is the most important one in that list!
It is true. It's been in the news for several days now. And at any rate, it is very unlikely he has the authority to mandate such things. Who would enforce it, the FBI? Federal marshals?Quote:
Not true, buddy boy.
It's not a mandatable instruction. You'll see!Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
You sure haven't kept up. Been out at the bar too often?Quote:
It is true. It's been in the news for several days now. And at any rate, it is very unlikely he has the authority to mandate such things. Who would enforce it, the FBI? Federal marshals?
Have it your way. It's been in the news everywhere, I suppose, but Chicago. Have a good night.Quote:
You sure haven't kept up.
Education is the cure for IGNORANCE! You still have to apply the education though, and that's the failure of the dufus. Yeah I meant "curve" not curb. I goofed.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I knew what you meant. I was just messing with you. My point in all of this is that we are doing just about everything that can be done short of just shutting down EVERYTHING and forcing EVERYONE to stay at home for a month. Your disregard of Trump won't allow you to say that, but it's basically true. In my area it is unusual to see people in stores without masks. Restaurants do primarily take out business. Social distancing is practiced, and travel has become much more limited. There is now soap in every men's bathroom because we realize the importance of hand washing. So go ahead and continue to rail against Trump, but it would be nice of you to be honest enough to simply admit that there is very little else that can be done. Either that, or tell us your ideas, and ideas more specific and practical than glaringly obvious platitudes like "less disease", "less death", or "We need to flatten the curve." Even your hero, JB, has no idea of practical substance other than spending enormous amounts of money (that we don't have) to send checks to people and states in an attempt to buy even more votes in the next election. He is not, and likely cannot, going to mandate the wearing of masks, social distancing, etc., and even if he did, how would it get enforced? Would you suggest sending federal marshals out to write tickets to people for not standing six feet apart? Now I hope he does it because it would lead to a popular uprising that would sweep liberal dems out of office for the next twenty years, but he won't. Even JB has better sense than that. So we're going to continue to muddle along until the Trump vaccine gets widespread enough to diminish infections. That's simply how it is whether we like it or not.
But like I said, if you have any specific, practical suggestions of what we can do differently, then by all means enlighten us with your education and disperse the dark clouds of ignorance. Just throwing the ole transmission in hate gear and popping the clutch isn't accomplishing very much.
Let me get this straight. Your area embraces what the scientist have said and flattened your curve successfully? That's great, so imagine the better outcomes if we all embraced that action as a country. That's not what the dufus has done and not what he asked for. He called for us to IGNORE the virus and keep doing what we were doing before covid. The whole GOP joined him in politicizing this blue state versus red state meme and we ain't got no money to do what it takes to get us through this crisis. The dufus didn't even try to save lives. He puts profits before people especially his own and enough wingers holler about their rights to make a loud enough noise to stifle any UNIFIED response to this CRISIS!
What a waste to accept such incompetence and mediocracy, illness, and death that leads the whole frigging world. We don't have to just muddle along and it's not the dufus's vaccine, and it ain't here yet. Thankfully the people have booted this fool out of the top seat in the world and that may yet be the best thing that we could do for the nation. Now we can do better than MUDDLE.
We are following the guidelines and the curve is NOT flattening. That's kind of the whole point.Quote:
Your area embraces what the scientist have said and flattened your curve successfully?
Well, as I thought, no new ideas. No new suggestions. Oh well. When the Trump vaccine, and he is primarily responsible for its rapid development, get's geared up this month, then by January or February we will see declining figures. Until then we just have to do the best we can.
Please elaborate on what the problem is in your area.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
We are fighting a disease that is fairly highly infectious and for which there is no real treatment and no truly effective prevention other than just staying away from other people. It is not a real problem in the under fifty crowd, but is a significant threat to the over fifty crowd. (Note: That would be both of us. Just another disadvantage of old age, I guess.)
It's a REAL problem in enough to exercise caution and not ignore dire consequences even among the young. They're called long haulers if they survive.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Young people are at risk of severe Covid-19 illness (nbcnews.com)
Why Covid-19 kills some young people - CNN
Fighting the dangerous myth that COVID only threatens the old or ill (usatoday.com)
I found this article also, one of many that outlines the other factors for young folks besides just the disease itself.
Young adults, unfairly blamed for COVID-19 spread, now face stress and uncertain futures (theconversation.com)
Here's a good interactive map.
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/gr...ak/4945223002/
People are tired of staying home with crabby kids who can't go to school and spouses who don't spend time away from home shopping and working at a job. Domestic abuse and suicides have increased. Thus, people are no longer following the rules. Weddings and funerals are becoming superspreader events. People want what's normal again.
Sorry, but that is simply not true. Of course there are "dire consequences" possible, but the risks for the young are MUCH less than for those over fifty. It's not even close.Quote:
not ignore dire consequences even among the young.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...th-by-age.html
And no, I am not going to read your five links to nowhere. Too much wasted time in the past to have me do that.
Yeah I know guy, I'm realizing your reading comprehension skills are suspect, or you're a loony winger who only reads stuff he agrees with for whatever reason.
Bummer!
You always get mad when you're proven to be wrong like this?
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