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  • Aug 16, 2020, 07:01 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I thought cleaning up registration lists was code for voter repression .

    You missed (ignored) this part of my comment.

    In the same time period, approximately 250 million voters did not show up to vote. Are they "missing", too? Or did they just decide not to vote? Of the 28.3 mail-ins, ........ How many represent voters who decided not to vote?


    Probably about 50%, like always.
  • Aug 16, 2020, 08:21 AM
    tomder55
    .No one is required to vote . But if they choose not to they are accounted for. Sending out unsolicited ballots makes them the responsibility of the state to account for . Note I did not get into obvious problems like how easy it is to harvest unaccounted for ballots and make sure they end up at the precincts with a vote for your favorite candidate .
  • Aug 16, 2020, 01:29 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    .No one is required to vote . But if they choose not to they are accounted for. Sending out unsolicited ballots makes them the responsibility of the state to account for

    I'm sure you mean something by this but I have no idea what.

    Quote:

    Note I did not get into obvious problems like how easy it is to harvest unaccounted for ballots and make sure they end up at the precincts with a vote for your favorite candidate .
    Ballot harvesting is extremely rare as are all the other scenarios for mail fraud proposed by Trump.
  • Aug 16, 2020, 06:48 PM
    tomder55
    Danger ! New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says she is delaying the country's parliamentary election by four weeks to October 17 !!!
    https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic.../2680180_0.jpg
  • Aug 16, 2020, 08:05 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Danger ! New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says she is delaying the country's parliamentary election by four weeks to October 17 !!!
    https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic.../2680180_0.jpg

    Not a problem as it might be in the US. Elections are not held on a fixed date and there is some latitude for the government of the day, four weeks in the middle of a CV event is no more than a statistical error. Please remember we in the southern climes are not given to dicatorial regimes often
  • Aug 17, 2020, 02:50 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    .No one is required to vote . But if they choose not to they are accounted for. Sending out unsolicited ballots makes them the responsibility of the state to account for . Note I did not get into obvious problems like how easy it is to harvest unaccounted for ballots and make sure they end up at the precincts with a vote for your favorite candidate .

    Conservatives are always looking for a boogeyman to justify their worst fears so now we have ballot harvesting to stop progress. I'll be glad when you guys actually prove some of these sky is falling theories instead of the steady gloom and doom stirred up by the dufus and his sycophants. Better yet how to fix stuff. LOL Tom most states have already expanded absentee and mail in voting because of the virus, and they aren't all democratic controlled states either.

    I suspect the same voices hollering voter fraud are the same ones looking to carry out voter suppression.
  • Aug 17, 2020, 06:52 AM
    paraclete
    It is all a distraction from the real agenda
  • Aug 17, 2020, 01:49 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    I suspect the same voices hollering voter fraud are the same ones looking to carry out voter suppression.
    The suppression will be the apx 20% of the voters who's ballots are disqualified for various reasons .(that seems to be the standard ,for the mail in ballots that are actually accounted for . Carolyn Maloney's opponent ,Suraj Patel was robbed .After a 3 week +delay in announcing the result ;Manhattan Judge Analisa Torres ordered all ballots with missing postmarks that were received two days after the June 23 primary be counted. So it is still undecided .
  • Aug 17, 2020, 01:55 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The suppression will be the apx 20% of the voters who's ballots are disqualified for various reasons .(that seems to be the standard ,for the mail in ballots that are actually accounted for . Carolyn Maloney's opponent ,Suraj Patel was robbed .After a 3 week +delay in announcing the result ;Manhattan Judge Analisa Torres ordered all ballots with missing postmarks that were received two days after the June 23 primary be counted. So it is still undecided .

    What about all those in-person voting locations that have been removed so that poc will have to stand in line for eight or more hours?
  • Aug 17, 2020, 03:40 PM
    tomder55
    talk to the states and the local wards . They run elections .
  • Aug 17, 2020, 04:26 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    talk to the states and the local wards . They run elections .

    Republican gerrymandering says it all.
  • Aug 17, 2020, 06:16 PM
    paraclete
    Therein lies the problem
  • Aug 17, 2020, 08:57 PM
    talaniman
    Dems gerrymander too, adds to the problem.
  • Aug 17, 2020, 09:28 PM
    paraclete
    so you admit demonrats interfere with the electoral process
  • Aug 18, 2020, 04:01 AM
    talaniman
    I admit both sides engage in political shenanigans to gain and keep power and influence. I think we find that in every government on Earth. Some more than others.
  • Aug 18, 2020, 04:41 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I admit both sides engage in political shenanigans to gain and keep power and influence. I think we find that in every government on Earth. Some more than others.

    Yes but you guys have reduced it to an art form
  • Aug 18, 2020, 05:26 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Yes but you guys have reduced it to an art form

    I agree and I think it's a disgrace.

    Over the last 25 years the Republicans have "reduced" it to the Nth degree. All anyone has to do is look at the Trump years to fear for American democracy.

    This very day he went so far to say the if he loses the election, it will have been de facto rigged. If he wins, it will be legitimate. That is an unbelievable statement from a sitting US president.
  • Aug 18, 2020, 05:33 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    This very day he went so far to say the if he loses the election, it will have been de facto rigged. If he wins, it will be legitimate. That is an unbelievable statement from a sitting US president.

    He also said the US people owe him four more years (AFTER he finishes the next four years that he plans to win in November 2020) because of all the controversy around his 2016 win.
  • Aug 18, 2020, 05:36 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    He also said the US people owe him four more years (AFTER he finishes the next four years that he plans to win in November 2020) because of all the controversy around his 2016 win.

    That's even MORE unbelievable!
  • Aug 18, 2020, 05:44 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    That's even MORE unbelievable!

    President Donald Trump apparently isn’t happy with his first four years in office, according to his remarks on Monday demanding a kind of presidential do-over.
    “We are going to win four more years,” Trump announced to a Wisconsin crowd not social distancing. “And then after that we’ll go for another four years, because they spied on my campaign. We should get a redo of four years.”
    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/tru...to-do-his-job/
  • Aug 18, 2020, 07:54 PM
    paraclete
    poor little Donald, the big bad bullies were against him
  • Aug 19, 2020, 03:50 AM
    talaniman
    More crazy distraction talk as everyday brings out the dufus's glaring incompetence and lies. While repubs put together their own convention and dems are in the middle of theirs the dufus appointed postmaster is stopping his destruction of the post office amid the uproar and hearings into his handling of USPS.
  • Aug 19, 2020, 08:42 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    the dufus appointed postmaster is stopping his destruction of the post office amid the uproar and hearings into his handling of USPS.

    And will joyboy DeJoy replace what he removed?
  • Aug 19, 2020, 12:10 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    He also said the US people owe him four more years (AFTER he finishes the next four years that he plans to win in November 2020) because of all the controversy around his 2016 win.
    after 4 years you don't know when he's yanking your chain ?
  • Aug 19, 2020, 12:34 PM
    talaniman
    I suppose yanking chains is better than talking about the repub senates intell report on Russia, or the post office debacle, or no relief deal for main street and states, or the incompetence in covid response.
  • Aug 19, 2020, 12:34 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    after 4 years you don't know when he's yanking your chain ?

    Trouble is, he's totally serious. He has no concept of how to chain-yank.
  • Aug 19, 2020, 12:42 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    after 4 years you don't know when he's yanking your chain ?

    Even if he is yanking chains, that is not acceptable behavior coming from a US president. It reeks of a barroom, an environment more suitable to Trump.
  • Aug 19, 2020, 01:20 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    I suppose yanking chains is better than talking about the repub senates intell report on Russia,
    ho hum . A thousand pages to say there was no evidence of collusion and that Manafort had friends in Russia close to Putin. Manafort was a minor actor in the Trump campaign . He was brought in because he understood how to manage a convention. Trump dumped him mid -august . If he was an instrument of collusion with Russia then why was it old business in Ukraine that got him in trouble with Mueller ;and the charges were mostly tax and banking related ? The Senate Intel Committee has become a useless group led by Goober Graham .
  • Aug 19, 2020, 02:47 PM
    talaniman
    Nice spin, or a blatant dismissal of facts, since I doubt you've read it, just like you didn't read the Mueller Report, and Burr was the Chairman at the time not Goober. Rubio took over after Burr left for the repubs.

    https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/...n-interference

    It's Vol 5 of a series.
  • Aug 19, 2020, 05:59 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    ho hum . A thousand pages to say there was no evidence of collusion and that Manafort had friends in Russia close to Putin. Manafort was a minor actor in the Trump campaign . He was brought in because he understood how to manage a convention. Trump dumped him mid -august . If he was an instrument of collusion with Russia then why was it old business in Ukraine that got him in trouble with Mueller ;and the charges were mostly tax and banking related ? The Senate Intel Committee has become a useless group led by Goober Graham .

    Did you read the Mueller report? No. Did you read the Senate report? No. Yet, you come here and claim they're both "hoaxes". Do you read Trump's tweets? Yes. That's where you get your info - right from the fevered brain of a mental case.

    Among many things, the Senate determined that Manafort's long-time partner was a Russian intelligence agent. Also, that Wikileaks acted as a Russian cut-out. AG Barr misled Mueller's report by his infamous spin obscuring the fact that the Trump administation colluded with the Russians.

    Even worse, Trump is willing to collude again with the Russians in the 2020 election and the Republicans - FULLY AWARE OF THIS FACT - will do nothing to prevent it.

    Republican Rubio has stated that "there is no evidence of collusion". Rubio is the acting chairman of the Senate committee. Ignoring the tons of evidence in the Senate report shows exactly how dangerous the Repubs will be in 2020.
  • Aug 20, 2020, 07:32 AM
    talaniman
    Another swamp critter bites the dust!
    Yes folks another dufus associate is facing charges!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/n...4969268de5c8c3

    If you surround yourself with crooks and criminals what are the chances that you're one too? just asking.

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