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We will eventually account for all the money and antics, no matter what obstacles the dufus comes up with. That blanket privilege crap will only go so far for so long. A lot can happen between now and election day, and this Iran thing looks a lot like the new Iraq/Afghan thing all over again. We'll see.
Has anyone, perhaps tal, thought that the demonrats are clutching at straws, they have been played, redact the supposed juicy parts, suppress the document that they have already been told is inconclusive, or more appropriately doesn't contain what they are looking for, and they rage, thinking that they have been contempted, but, you cannot contempt the contemptable, and meanwhile, nothing gets done, their program remains in tatters. If anyone is in contempt it is the demonrats for the law.
The Congressional committee is not a Grand Jury whatever it might think it is
How amusing, keep listening to those dufuscraps. Loud but liars, but AGAIN they have clogged up the toilet with loads of BS. The swamp is steadily rising.
Yes it is full of demonratsQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I suspect you'd fit right in no problem.
No, I avoid big cities and scumbags. I left the city in what we call a treechange in 1980
In his 1997 book ‘The Art of the Comeback’ Donald Trump details how he lost over a billion dollars in the early 90’s. The NYSlimes ran it this week claiming it was some kind of ‘exclusive’ report.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ump-taxes.html
In fact ;during the debates with Evita he was asked about taking the losses off his taxes and he basically bragged about using the tax laws for the write offs . He still brags about it .
Tax is a fallacy, something for the common man, the elites wrote the laws so it wouldn't apply to them. Tax should be on gross revenue, not some illusionary Net Profit, then all would pay their fair share and the budget would no longer be in deficit.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I have no problem with that ;a flat tax for everyone ;no write offs . But Trump lived in the world created for him . He did not write the Federal or NYS tax laws . He just learned how to legally exploit it . He admitted he lost a $ billion in the 1st showing of 'The Apprentice '
https://youtu.be/jx9cMuMb2pk
But the Slimes calls their reporting 'blockbuster '
what is blockbusting is that the FBI KNEW the Steele Dossier was a fraud before they submitted it as evidence to obtain FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign .
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...s-were-flagged
In order to get a FISA warrant you must show probable cause. In order to get it renewed 4 times with four judges, you must have ADDITIONAL probable cause. No, you cannot just keep resubmitting the same cause over and over again and get additional renewals. That dog just don't hunt, even if the Steele Dossier was the ORIGINAL source of the original request. I doubt that alone would be sufficient on it's own, despite what has been said by Page and conservative news circles. Willing to bet his past involvements where also a part of the original warrant submissions.
The dufus does a lot of things right in your face and has a history of it. I guess since not enough people have read his books, they took credit for reading it themselves, LOL, but his history, words, and behavior should be a big red flag that MORE investigations and regulations are sorely needed NOW.
That's against his latest antic of sending Rudy to the Ukraine to get dirt on Bidens son. Well he got away (SO FAR) with Russian links and contacts with the dufus and his sycophants, so why not just announce this latest contact with a foreign government to advance his re election campaign. Even you must acknowledge his exploitive instincts are off the chain, but I suspect you enjoy the DUFUS SHOW on many levels.
Their case to the court excluded key relevent information .The FBI never informed the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of the dossier's Democratic benefactors or Steele's anti-Trump bias when it applied to spy on Page. And you see nothing wrong with that ? Even Comey was calling it unverified . Comey fired Steele .
I can state that in our system there is nothing worse than abusing the FISA system because the person being surveilled is denied due process throughout the course of the investigation. You know and I know that denials are rarely granted when the government asks for a FISA warrant . The understanding however has to be that the information and probable cause has to be solid and unimpeachable .
We also know that the Obots routinely and historically abused the process BEFORE the investigation of Trump's campaign. Let's not forget MYSTIC .
Please explain or show where you got your assertions from. Who is or what is mystic?
I guess you did not hear about Snowden's leaks .Mystic was the NSA collecting metadata. 250 million people world wide had their phones tapped . It targeted 5 countries ;the Philippines, Kenya Mexico. In Afghanistan and the Bahamas they recorded every call and kept the recording for a minimum of a month.It was launched in the emperor's first year . . There was also MUSCULAR .All they did was intercept data between users and Google . Then there was OPTIC NERVE . All they did was secretly snoop on Yahoo webcam chats. There were others too like tapping into undersea fiber optic cables .
On May 24, 2017, a declassified FISA report was published, noting that the NSA routinely violated the 4th Amendment of Americans and abused intelligence tools to do so. The emperor's regime disclosed the problems at a closed door hearing on Oct. 26 before the FISC, two weeks before the 2016 election. The report labeled the matter a “very serious Fourth Amendment issue," citing an "institutional lack of candor" on the part of the administration. It also criticized the NSA as having “disregard” for rules and “deficient” oversight.More than 5 percent,of the NSA’s Section 702 requests and approvals violated the safeguards the emperor vowed to follow in 2011. In addition, there was a 3 fold increase in NSA data searches about Americans and a rise in the unmasking of U.S. person’s identities in intelligence reports after the administration loosened privacy rules in 2011.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nat...152948259.html
The FISA report also indicated hundreds of incidences in which the FBI illegally shared raw surveillance data illegally obtained by the NSA with private entities.
That would be more compelling if we trusted the dufus and repubs, who in my mind have no credibility unless it's verified extensively. Not that the dufus was any more credible than Bush II, or King Reagan on the subject, but 911 sort of changed a lot of things. As long as Snowden is still a guest of the state in Russia, screw him too. Screw the dufus period for attacking everybody that had a part into investigating him and Russia. Probable cause in plain site, and that goes double for right wing hero Carter Page. Even Strzok and page's personal conversations are evidence of conspiracy? Really?
I'm no fan of law enforcement but the dufus and the right wing are off the chain in antics and questionable behavior. Hecj, Rudy is going to the Ukraine for dirt, but nothing to see here folks, cased closed.
Commercial over, you may return to dufus tv now.
I told you about Biden's collusions a long time ago . He and his son never spent time in jail for being unregisterd foreign agents right ?
Rudy is NOT going to Ukraine.
Did Joe Biden meddle in Ukraine politics to protect his son who was eyeball deep in corruption there ? yes . Biden actually was the point man for the emperor to steer $1.8 billion to Ukraine. Meanwhile Hunter Biden got a no show job with a Ukraine energy company that paid him $3.1 million .
But this Ukraine prosecutor General Viktor Shokin decided to investigate. Biden has already proudly admitted that he bullied Ukraine into firing Shokin by threatening to withhold the US money .
Another prosecutor is investigating members of Parliament who colluded with Evita by releasing damaging information about Paul Manafort .
There is a new Pres. of Ukraine and Rudy originally was going there to get assurances that the new President did not end the Evita collusion probe. Rudy backed off last night .
There is a lot more to learn about Biden. As an example …...why is he saying that China is not a threat ? It is a bizarre statement even by Biden's standards .Could it be that an equity firm owned by Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz (step son of John Kerry) teamed up with another firm headed by James Bulger, the nephew of the Boston mob hitman James “Whitey” Bulger ? Together they peddled their connections to Biden and Kerry to obtain lucrative opportunities in China .
As a start up company they made contacts that were unheard of for companies their size . Hunter while on diplomatic trips with his father managed to create a $1 billion investment fund with the Bank of China called theBohai Harvest RST (BHR).The fund enjoyed an unusual and special status in China.Funds were backed by the Chinese government.
The Chinese government was literally funding a business that it co-owned along with the sons of two of America’s most powerful decision makers.
Together with the Chinese government young Biden and Heinz made a series of deals.... .Some of them having national security implications .
In 2015, BHR joined forces with a subsidiary of the Chinese state owned military aviation contractor Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) to buy American “dual-use” parts manufacturer Henniges.AVIC is a major military contractor in China. It operates under the direct control of the State Council and produces a wide array of fighter and bomber aircraft, transports, and drones; primarily designed to compete with the United States.The company also has a long history of stealing Western technology and applying it to military systems. The year before BHR joined with AVIC, it had stolen technologies related to the F-35 stealth fighter and incorporated them in their own stealth fighter, the J-31. AVIC has also been accused of stealing US drone systems and using them to produce their own.In September 2015, when AVIC bought 51 percent of Henniges, the other 49 percent was purchased by BHR.
Are you related to Vlad? You have all the dirt on the dems for decades, but nary a peep on the repubs. Oh wait, that's my job! Rudy chickened out! He was probably blowing smoke as usual, or somebody pulled his coat. Meanwhile the Russians are invading Ky.
http://www.therepublic.com/2019/04/1...roject-russia/
You think the Vlad ain't happy with Mitch and the dufus?
did you see that Comey at a town hall meeting said it was 'totally normal to plant a FBI spy in an opposing political campaign. How many other campaigns did they infiltrate ? Cruz ? Ben Carson's ? Bolshevik Bernie ? (after all Bernie is an admirer of the Soviet system ) . Now he proudly admits spying and electronic surveillance on Trump .
But when Trump tweeted that he was being "wire tapped " during the election . Comey went running to the NY Slimes to discredit Trump's claim . And the Slimes of course complied
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/05/u...is-phones.html
the deep state rats are pointing the finger j'accuse at each other . Comey told his staff in an email 2016 that CIA Director Brennan insisted that the fake Steele dossier be included in the national assessment on Russian interference . The CIA is saying the Comey wanted it in and that Brennan and DNA James Clapper objected . I'm actually in agreement with Comey on this one . It is more probable that the sting on the Trump campaign originated from commie Brennan.
I have a feeling that this is going to blow up in the dems faces. Sad to say, Washington is so corrupt that it is discouraging. The few honest people, like Trey Gowdy, dislike it so much that they get out of town.
Whetether it was in or out makes no difference since the history of the dufus and his business ties and practices makes him a high target for scrutiny whether he was running for president or not. You didn't need the intell community to vet this guy, but repubs did a lousy job in the first place. I blame the dems also for not getting the turnout to keep him in NY in the first place, and repubs for lining up behind him no matter what he does. That's just politics in America.
That's why repubs have little choice but to protect him now because they sure can't go against him, and stay in Washington, now can they?
yes the Republican party is pretty much the Trump party now.
Sorry but there has to be some serious accounting for the Dems attempt to steal the election. It's too bad it took so long to get John Durham involved to get to the bottom of the genesis of this Russia hoax .
The Mueller report did not find a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin to influence the 2016 presidential election. It’s time we find what this was really all about.
LOL, are we forgetting the dufus and Vlad may have stolen the election first. Maybe the dems are justified in stealing it back from the corrupt crime boss that has caused chaos on many fronts both foreign and domestic with the arrogance and impunity of a dictator. There is a case to be made still for collusion if not out and out conspiracy, but having read the Mueller report, I know whose lying, and whose not, and that's without the redacted areas.
I can't blame repubs or the dufus for spinning this the way they have and fighting to keep it out of the public domain at large. They have an awful lot to lose if the dems pull the impeachment trigger. That Barr is a very slick fellow by far, and is the ONLY reason this cover up is still covered up however I doubt even he can save the dufus even if he manages to get re elected.
Repubs just don't have a better play at this point.
We'll see how it goes, but I have a feeling that when the REAL cover-up gets uncovered, it is a bunch of dems that are going to be footing the bill.Quote:
That Barr is a very slick fellow by far, and is the ONLY reason this cover up is still covered up however I doubt even he can save the dufus even if he manages to get re elected.
Umm Trump wants them to use the impeachment card . Pelosi knows how disastrous that would be for the Dems .Quote:
They have an awful lot to lose if the dems pull the impeachment trigger
I'm not so sure about that since the senate would have no choice but to hear all the evidence along with the public, and not just rely on the words and spin of the dufus or Barr. I have seen bullies use the "hit me punk" routine on scared people before. Or "I dare you to knock the chip off my shoulder" tactic. I think Nancy should take her best shot if he keeps asking for it.
The dufus should be careful what he asks for, he may get it.
I'm sure this play will end in favor of the Repubs...the Dems have no hand.Quote:
Repubs just don't have a better play at this point.
Meanwhile we continue to engulf ourselves in this (scripted) reality show... When Lies Became Reality
When truth is blurred by lies and misinformation, perception becomes reality and all is lost.
so who is Vyacheslav Trubnikov and Vladislav Surkov ?
Once a spy always a spy, why would you think spies don't know each other or give up their political connections?
Who they are are spies on Putin's payroll who fed Steele the information that went into the dossier .The US is victim of a disinformation campaign and the US intel ;law enforcement and press all fell for it . And that is the kindest thing I can say about that because I'm not convinced there weren't people in Evita's campaign and the emperor's regime who weren't co conspirators . At very least they were willing enablers .
It could go either way since everybody knows the game, but you would have to verify it just on GP before you stuck your neck out right? Carter Paige had enough history without the dossier to get a warrant though, so I disagree that it's the only thing they had to get it, and have it renewed 3 addition times. Obviously it's enough for the right to chomp on it, and call foul though, but lets be real, the right doesn't need much to holler foul about...louder and LOUDER, and over and OVER again, and AGAIN.
The birther movement is proof of that.
it is what they submitted to the court . Given the fact that the defendant doesn't have the same rights in FISC as one has in a regular court ;it is up to the FBI to guarantee the evidence used to obtain the warrant has to be verified . AND Comey admitted on email that it was NOT verified . It should never had been submitted as evidence for the warrant .
Carter Page's "history " was that he assisted the FBI in catching Russian spy Evgeny Buryakov . The Russians had tried to recruit Page in 2013 . But Page helped the FBI nail Buryakov prior to Page joining the Trump campaign . The only reason the FBI 'tapped' Page was to have ears inside the Trump campaign ;and to build a false narrative of Russians compromising Trump.
Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, and others are now pointing fingers at one another, because they have come to realize that their prior actions may not be rewarded, praised, or even excused, but rather prosecuted:
Nice theory, but short on data, especially when it comes to those FISA warrants. Barr's opinion and so called investigation not withstanding Rosenstein is available for questioning by Barr, and an IG report is supposedly forthcoming so all this speculation and spin is a useless exercise in futility, until FACTS can be made public by the experts. Meanwhile the court has ordered Dufus financials to be turned over...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp
...and a conservative repub has sided with the dems on obstruction even though the repubs and dufus has blasted him for it.
I would expect nothing less from a judge appointed by the emperor; and a donor to the emperor's ; Biden's , and Beto O'Rourke's campaign .
https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lo...ame=Amit+Mehta
Of course he sided with Elijah 's fishing expedition .
Cummings based his subpoena on testimony given from Michael Cohen, who has been convicted of lying to Congress. Trump will lose on appeal too because Merrick Garland runs the DC Circus Court . It is questionable that SCOTUS will hear the case.
The convicted liar Cohen asserted that Trump deflated the value of his assets to avoid taxes . Is he asserting then that the accounting firmMazars was complicit in filing false financials ?
Judge Mehta wrote in his opinion that he knows that once the House Dems get their hands on the records that they will leak them and the only real purpose to seeking these records was for political fodder .
https://www.scribd.com/document/4108...cords-Ruling-1Quote:
That said, the court is not naïve to reality—a reality confirmed by the fact that the Oversight Committee has said that the decision whether to make the records public lies within its discretion.
See
Hr’g Tr. at 59. Thus, there is a chance that some records obtained from Mazars will become public soon after they are produced.
Should be interesting ...based on this precedence ,Judicial Watch will go to town seeking multiple financial records of Democrats .Madam Mim's would be a good start …..or maybe the Clintoons .
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and a conservative repub has sided with the dems on obstruction even though the repubs and dufus has blasted him for it.
Every conservative ,including me, at some point, is going to disagree with Trump about something. There’s nothing unusual about that because we’re not automatons. But calling for his impeachment after his Rights were violated by police-state opponents IS NOT a “principled position.” Even never Trumper Mitt Romney is defending Trump on this one .
Repubs and the public defended Tricky until the facts came out through hearings. This was after his landslide re election. We know how THAT turned out.
This isn't Watergate because as the Special Council detailed ;there was no underlying crime The Dems are actually delusional enough to think that an audit company with the prestige of Mazars would risk their reputation and put themselves in legal jeopardy by signing off on any financial statement that wasn't up and up .Just yesterday Goldman Sachs chose Mazars to audit it's European operation .
You don't NEED an underlying crime for impeachment, and Mazars is hardly the only financial institution cooperating with congress. Some not as reputable as others. A judge just ruled the dufus has no argument against congress getting financials, though to no surprise we have his lawyers appealing that decision.
There is no legislative justification for Congress to be prying into Trump's finances . It is just more investigation in search of a crime instead of having a crime 1st . Of course Trump is going to appeal because it is a terrible ruling by an activist Obot . There is absolutely no compelling reason that the turning over of the documents cannot be delayed until the appeals process carries out. And yet Judge Mehta gave a deadline date for Mazars to comply. The irony I guess is that Judge Garland will most likely hear the appeal and rule on a stay.
If nothing else, a rule to release tax returns when running for federal office, including federal judges is a good outcome, and given the KNOWN Russian cyber attacks and the KNOWN past business practices and civil court case outcomes of the dufus, only a fool would trust his word without verification that he isn't a crook, in bed with foreign dictators, or owing a foreign power. Legislatively the congress has as much power as the executive branch, plus nobody listened to the dems when the repub house investigated Benghazi and emails MULTIPLE times and got squat, so it's pretty hypocritical to say dems are out of bounds investigating the dufus.
It's also pretty hypocritical for conservatives to question dem appointed judges and turn around and expect repub appointed judges to rule in their favor this time. In addition we have the specter of Duetsche Bank hanging ominously in the background. Just because the repub house failed to look into all this stuff the idea that a dem house should not is preposterous.
Nice try though.
Congress does NOT have the power to subpoena the financial records of the President on the word of someone convicted of lying to Congress on the very issue .The rule is that they must have a compelling legislative reason to do so . There is a separation of power.
It is not hypocritical at all because Judge Mehta showed his partisan biases in the very 1st paragraph of his ruling (it is only 40 page . Took me less than a hour) . His unbiased ruling compared Trump to James Buchanan ;the President who presided over the dissolution of the Union and did nothing about it .
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