Shame how when someone whines about income inequality they never mention stuff like this. It seems Democrats pay minority campaign staff three fifths of a white guy's salary.
http://www.jammiewf.com/2013/racism-...s-than-whites/
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Shame how when someone whines about income inequality they never mention stuff like this. It seems Democrats pay minority campaign staff three fifths of a white guy's salary.
http://www.jammiewf.com/2013/racism-...s-than-whites/
If you posted a comparison of what both parties paid staff then you would have a good argument, and not a bash the dems statement. So where is the link to what repubs pay their minority staffers?
The source was linked and quoted so read for yourself, I hid nothing.
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The study finds that although Republican campaign staffs hire a disproportionately high number of white men, the income disparities between racial groups are not nearly as pronounced as on Democratic campaigns
I took that to mean while their was less pay disparity, a disparity nonetheless, and minorities are hired a lot less, by repubs.
Conclusion- Both parties could do better.
If you recall the regime also got called out for paying female White House staffers less than their male counterparts. So here's my thing, if you're going to not only make such things a centerpiece of your agenda but hammer the other side over it you should lead by example. Kind of hypocritical not to mention embarrassing when they prove to be better at it.
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What do you do now? What business?
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so making decorative pots eh? do you grow large green plants in them?
Great news, not only might half a million or so people not have to worry about "job lock" if they raise the minimum wage to $10.10 per hour, but a whopping 19 percent of that increase will benefit poor families, according to the CBO!
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Once fully implemented in the second half of 2016, the $10.10 option would reduce total employment by about 500,000 workers, or 0.3 percent, CBO projects (see the table below). As with any such estimates, however, the actual losses could be smaller or larger; in CBO’s assessment, there is about a two-thirds chance that the effect would be in the range between a very slight reduction in employment and a reduction in employment of 1.0 million workers…
The increased earnings for low-wage workers resulting from the higher minimum wage would total $31 billion, by CBO’s estimate. However, those earnings would not go only to low-income families, because many low-wage workers are not members of low-income families. Just 19 percent of the $31 billion would accrue to families with earnings below the poverty threshold, whereas 29 percent would accrue to families earning more than three times the poverty threshold, CBO estimates.
Moreover, the increased earnings for some workers would be accompanied by reductions in real (inflation-adjusted) income for the people who became jobless because of the minimum-wage increase, for business owners, and for consumers facing higher prices.
how generous they have to wait to 2016 for a wage increase
Before heading out to billionaire donor Tom Steyer's house for a fundraiser, Dingy Harry Reid had this to say:
Dingy Harry Attacks Koch Brothers Before Heading to Fundraiser With Democrat Billionaire Sugar Daddy | Jammie Wearing FoolsQuote:
The Koch bros made over $18 billion last year, but middle-class families have watched their incomes stagnate for decades. #RaiseTheWage
Steyer plans on spending $100 million this year on behalf of Democrats and the cause, I'm sure with no IRS scrutiny.
We have already acknowledged its done on both sides. One side does nothing for poor people and people who have lost jobs, houses and their lives through no fault of their own.
Wonder which side that is?
Yes, we hate blacks, women, the poor, illegal aliens, the hungry, gays, lesbians, transgendered, jobless and we kick puppies every chance we get.Quote:
One side does nothing for poor people and people who have lost jobs, houses and their lives through no fault of their own.
That would be the side that plays lip service to their problems and craft polices that do nothing to solve it . But if good intentions without results makes you feel good then surely that's enough.Quote:
We have already acknowledged its done on both sides. One side does nothing for poor people and people who have lost jobs, houses and their lives through no fault of their own.
Wonder which side that is?
And what about doing nothing at all for anyone but a rich guy makes your side happy? I believe what you said about hate, Speech, except the puppy part. But Tom I am realizing that if the policy doesn't comport with your own model of success your side always says it doesn't work. Even though it does for some but obviously not for the ones YOU want them too.
I suspect it's a cover up for the failed economic policies republicans have espoused that HAVE failed, and led to global economic collapse, as part of an enrichment program for the few. I know, you will never admit to enrich the few and NOT the many, but that's where your broken economical capitalistic policy ideas lead.
So of course you further propagated the lie that rich people are "job creators" in a consumer driven economy that has exported good paying job to countries where slave labor and no rules is welcome. My greatest knock on this administration are the trade agreements that further that end though the need for uniform global rule and standards is what's needed.
However lowering American standards to bring up international standards is not my idea of a solution in my view, and certainly not at the huge profits extracted at the expense of both American and foreign labor.
The CBO just said that increasing the min wage will result in job losses . So if anyone is lowering standards it's your side.
But that doesn't suprise me from the side that says being unemployed is a good thing because you can persue your hobbies on someone elses dime.
Not only result in job loss but only 19% of the increase will benefit poor families, but like you said "if good intentions without results makes you feel good then surely that's enough' for them.
That's 19% better than your plan. So I guess your intention is 0,nada, zip. Your mission was accomplished.
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Yes, we hate blacks, women, the poor, illegal aliens, the hungry, gays, lesbians, transgendered, jobless and we kick puppies every chance we get.
Well there you have it but you know speech sarcasm is considered the lowest form of wit. You keep arguing that you should do nothing becuase doing nothing will maintain the status quo as if the status quo is the desirable position for at least 50% of your population. A change in the minimum wage has a flow on effect in various ways. If there are industries that are unable to pass this cost though then how viable are they. Instead of looking at the worst case scenario you should be looking at the positive outcome, those who benefit will be less dependent on welfare
I have never argued for doing nothing, you've been listening to Tal too long. Why should we be satisfied with extremely inefficient, wasteful government solutions to everything?Quote:
Well there you have it but you know speech sarcasm is considered the lowest form of wit. You keep arguing that you should do nothing becuase doing nothing will maintain the status quo as if the status quo is the desirable position for at least 50% of your population. A change in the minimum wage has a flow on effect in various ways. If there are industries that are unable to pass this cost though then how viable are they. Instead of looking at the worst case scenario you should be looking at the positive outcome, those who benefit will be less dependent on welfare
Noone suggested you sould be satisfied with inefficient solutions be they government or otherwise, but government has a role to ensure the welfare of the population and part of that is ensuring that wages are fair to minimise government welfare, in otherwords industry also has a responsibility. In some places even the remote places like the Dominican republic that responsibility is taken seriously without government pressure. Government pressure only becomes necessary when industry is recalicrant
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but government has a role to ensure the welfare of the population
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promote the general Welfare,
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"The CBO just said that increasing minimum wage will result in job losses."
The CBO probably doesn't know. Raising the minimum wage could do any number of things.
I would imagine it would depend on who you talk to on the committee and their ideological commitment.
yes Tutt we have seen many times the argument that increased wages decreases employment, but rarely have we observed this a direct consequence excepting in isolated instances, the fact is that in most industries there is scope to both increase prices and absorb at leats a part of wages increases. the problem we have is that investors have been educated to expect higher returns even in low risk industries and it is they who don't want to share the wealth created by the success of their enterprises, it seems that the ethos that only senior executives should share in the benefits is well entrenched as if they were capable of producing the result without the benefit of staff
Raising minimum wage would ease poverty but cost some jobs - Feb. 18, 2014
Once the CBO report came out, there was a partisan rapid-fire response at the ready. Republicans who oppose the $10.10 proposal immediately seized on CBO's job loss estimates, while Democrats touted the agency's assessment that a higher minimum would lift 900,000 workers out of poverty. http://i.cdn.turner.com/money/images/bug.gif
Its still a net gain out of poverty.
the CBO is nonpartisan .... ask the libs ,they tell us that all the time. CBO report: Minimum wage hike could cost 500,000 jobs CBO Director Doug Elmendorf said the report was consistent with the consensus thinking of the leading economists .
interesting equation; 500,000 less lowly paid jobs V lifting 900,000 workers out of poverty and all for the princely sum of $10.10 per hour. so the coefficient of improvement would seem to be 1.8:1. On this basis we could eliminate poverty for say the loss of 50,000,000 jobs, no wait, there seems to be something wrong, that would be 500,000,000 jobs, no that's not enough, heck let's just get rid of all jobs and be rich
yup lib logic ... what it really is is a wealth transfer from the poor people to other poor people .
What they really won't tell you is that the only reason they want the increase is because it becomes the new baseline for union negotiations of contracts.
do you honestly think a minimum wage is a baseline for union negotiations, as if a union is going to negotiate to get a government mandated minimum wage, get real! If this is so then unions are no longer required. No a minimum wage is a base line for all employees and the next step is a living minimum wage based on economic data, that's a pill your 85 billionaires having half the wealth don't want to swallow and Tom, you want to toady for them? do your little G'd Mornin Gov'nor act?
btw the Dem party is a wholy owned subsidiary of the unions ...and if you are looking for toadies for big business ,look no further than the emperor ,who just announced CAFE standards for big trucks guaranteed to drive the smaller trucking firms out of business in favor of the large crony corporations who will be able to easily absord the transition.
LOL Tom, now you knock a union for negotiating in their own self interest? Whose interest should they negotiate in? Everybody wants more money. Face it the part you don't like is an organized labor force acting in its own interest. Bad for profits. Less bonus for the front office. You have said many times that business is in it for profits.
Workers are too.
I think all the leading lefties that run various cities and states take the lead and increase min wage in their jursidiction.
Sandanista Mayor DeBlasio is always so concerned about wage disparty . Why doesn't he raise NYC min wage to $15 -20 hr ? What's stopping him ? He has a rubber stamp city council . Why doesn't Guv's Cuomo ,Brown in Kalifornia ,or Deval Patrick in Taxxachusetts just raise their state's min wage to a so called 'living wage ' ? Because they know that it would HARM their state's economy and would have a negative impact on low income workers prospects.
Gap To Raise Minimum Wage For U.S. Workers - WSJ.com
Gap is raising what it pays, and Walmarts, and Target, are considering it. Wonder why?
Perhaps they're trying to attract workers who can do math, say something besides "no problem" and who'll show up for work?
"you get what you pay for."
So where does that leave teens?
if a business like GAP increases their base pay, it's their business. Most companies pay more than min wage anyway so all the GAP announcement amts to is cheap advertisement .
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