This may well be the case as far as "reality" is concerned. But you cannot argue from what she said in particular to what is generally the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
That are other ways of doing it but not in this case.
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This may well be the case as far as "reality" is concerned. But you cannot argue from what she said in particular to what is generally the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
That are other ways of doing it but not in this case.
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Yes, it would if ANY white person said it. I don't see the problem.
Tut, this isn't a debate, it's a current events discussion.
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Sorry my mistake.
No, the reality is liberals get a pass for the outrageous things they say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuttyd
Not with conservatives like you around to point out every outrage even if you have to edit it creatively, and assign your own spin to it.
Everyone assigns their own spin, everyone picks and chooses what to quote and the left is just as bad if not worse at pointing out every perceived outrage but the difference is we don't have the media power backing us up like you do. That and I linked to the whole video so you could check it out for yourself, that's full disclosure my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Hello again, Steve:
I guess it helps you to believe that everybody THINKS like you. And if only the media would tell the truth, everybody would know it.
excon
Sorry ex, but unlike you libs I actually cherish and defend your right to be wrong.
Moving on... a band of students at George Washington University have mobilized to have the chaplain removed apparently because he's Catholic or something.
More than a few students have a much different opinion of Fr. Greg, but who's counting? I'm sure there are more than enough others out willing to tell this minority exactly what they want to hear in the name of tolerance, who needs a guy that cares and has convictions?Quote:
Two gay seniors who said they felt alienated by the Newman Center's controversial priest will launch a campaign this week to force him off campus.
At least a dozen students, including seniors Damian Legacy and Blake Bergen, say they have left the Newman Center in the last several years because Father Greg Shaffer’s strong anti-gay and anti-abortion views are too polarizing. Shaffer, a Roman Catholic priest, has spent five years preaching to GW students.
The former Newman Center members are creating a video with testimony from 10 other Catholic students, who cite Shaffer as the reason they left the chapel, hoping to inflame a largely liberal campus and force University administrators to act. Legacy and Bergen also plan to file a formal complaint with the University and hold prayer vigils outside the Newman Center until Shaffer is removed.
The students lambasted Shaffer’s counseling sessions, in which he said he advises students who are attracted to members of the same sex to remain celibate for the rest of their lives. They also criticized the priest for a fiery blog post he wrote last May, calling gay relationships "unnatural and immoral" after President Barack Obama came out in support of same-sex marriage.
“We have to appeal to him. In the end, he’s the one preaching on Sunday. He’s the one counseling these students,” Legacy said. “The money doesn't matter to him, but when you see the faces of the people you’re turning away, you see the people who say ‘Oh, I would go to church all the time, but I don’t like Father Greg.’ When you meet them at their level, that’s going to hit them harder because it’s something they’re going to understand.”
Don't gay people who are being told they are immoral, and unnatural allowed to be outraged? It's their right.
Sure they have a right to be outraged just as priests have a right to their religious convictions. He's Catholic, what did they expect when they went to his services? You just still have this misguided notion that the government, or a small minority of whiners with hurt feelings (more like manufactured outrage) are right to impose their beliefs and values on people (Christians) of faith. Don't worry, I have little faith that GWU will have Fr Greg's back. I'm sure he'll be silenced, censured, fired or whatever and they can hire a nice Unitarian to tell them what they want to hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Hello again, Steve:
Let me see... A hospital is not a church. A college campus is not a church... What's he doing there in the first place??
Does the University accept money that students borrowed from the government?? It does. I don't want MY tax money supporting RELIGIOUS anti-abortion beliefs.. Don't I have that right? We DO have a separation of church and state... Let him go preach in church...
My religious freedom is being stomped on here.
excon
PS> (edited) Hmmm... My argument sounds strangely familiar..
It's a private university, founded by a Baptist missionary.
Hello again, Steve:
Yes, I see that it's private.. I also see that they accept government money that LOOKS like student loans. Even though the university wants to PRETEND it's not my tax money, it IS, and I won't have it.
excon
PS> Man, oh Man... This is sounding terribly familiar.. What could it be? Hmmm..
It is familiar, it's just like Obamacare where you also mistakenly believe the first amendment is irrelevant.
That is quite a stretch . The government does away with the private student loan industry and then you argue that because a STUDENT is taking a loan ,that the school that student is going to is accepting government funding... down the rabbit hole we go .
I have a great idea, no more tax exemptions for the church, since it's a private institution any way. That would add loot to the treasury. Do away with private health insurance companies too. That would save us all a lot of loot too. Doing away with private student loan companies saved a lot of loot too!
Eureka! Get rid of all those private companies who suck loot out of all of us, call themselves job creators, and haven't created jobs. Or tax the freak out of them until they do.
Yes Tal that makes sense, then you would have smaller churches and big name ministries because they could do less and of course, the government will step in and fill the vacuum when all those church associated charities go bust.
Its hard to know whether taxing a church constitutes a violation of the constitution since the member, etc is making a donation to the church as part of the conduct of the religion but certainly certain income shouldn't be tax protected
Church employees pay taxes just like everyone else, but I have a much better idea than taxing churches which actually do a lot of good for people without charging a dime, let's tax abortions.
Meanwhile, speaking of vile things, Anthony Weiner is apparently running for mayor of NYC. He's a changed man says his brother, “There was definitely a douchiness about him that I just don’t really see anymore.”
Allahpundit came up with his campaign slogan: Weiner 2013: Not as much of a douche.
Lets tax everything, and be done with it. If you can't afford it you can't buy it, so bring on the rights flat tax and see how the economy goes.
Can I have a raise boss to buy milk and gas? ACHHOOO! Sorry but I can't afford to stay home with a lousy cold. >sniff, sniff<.
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I have a great idea, no more tax exemptions for the church, since it's a private institution any way.
I'd like to see that claim backed up... All I see is that it drove the cost of tuitions up.Quote:
Doing away with private student loan companies saved a lot of loot too!
Logic, it cut out the middle man and the schools are jacking up their costs now too. Every body is jacking up their prices, because they can. Can you think of a better way to get government money?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Logic ;if every kid is getting government guaranteed loans then competition for admission drives up cost of tuition .The government created the tuition increase problem .
Why the Government is to Blame for High College Costs - US News and World Report
http://financialawakenings.com/weekl...-college-loans
Ah those free market mechanics you love so much and look; a stimilus actually worked
What are you talking about ? The kids in America are graduating with enormous debt and walking into the world with no jobs ;or being underemployed . There are articles in AARP about how the new normal is going to be 3 generations living in a single home.
All this courtesy of Uncle Sam .
I'm talking about this increased demand for education you identified resulting from government loans. No one said there had to be jobs at the end of the production line but they will go on turning out the best of the best of the best. Look at it this way, it keeps the kids off the streets and maybe one of them will solve the problem and just maybe they can spell
I read somewhere the other day that most of the new jobs these days are going to workers 50+ and up. Guess no one has openings for philosophy and women's studies majors.
No there is not a big demand for english majors and aboriginal studies either.
If employers have any sense they want practical people who can do a day's work, not a day's talk
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The more money the federal government pumps into financial aid, the more money the colleges charge for tuition. Inflation-adjusted tuition and fees have tripled over those same 30 years while aid quadrupled; the aid is going up faster than the tuition. Thanks to the federal government, massive sums of money are available to pay for massive tuitions.
Those greedy bast@rds can't get enough of that government money. Amazing how no one suggested lowering the cost of college as a solution.Quote:
Colleges can raise tuition with impunity because colleges know they'll get paid no matter what.
How anti free enterprise can you get? No this is classic economics. What you need to do is reduce the number of places available or raise the entry level requirements
They got to pay all those athletes and tenured profs.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I have a solution . Get rid of all the cr@p that is part of the college experience. If I was doing it over ,I'd take on -line courses as much as possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Now you are talking. Start at Pre-K, and go all the way to PHD, at home.
I have no words... (profanity warning)
We are Femen, the naked shock troops of feminism | Inna Shevchenko
I have to ask this. We don't have the "college experience " here, how does this add to educational excellence?
Hello again, Steve:
Since the get go, your party has been on the side of DENYING the expansion of rights.. When that happens, it pisses people off. So, they gather into groups and march around carrying signs.. You've NEVER liked that, and you DON'T like it now.Quote:
I have no words... (profanity warning)
If you want a LOOK at your war on women, look no further than THIS post.
Excon
Looks like Vladdy is enjoying the view
They should march naked in the White House until female staffers get equal pay.Quote:
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Was that profs or poofsQuote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
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