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  • Mar 4, 2013, 01:52 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I never thought of that, but it explains the hollering, and the fear of being bent over by liberals. It would hurt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hurt really bad!!!!!!!!!!

    Well, if you look at the liberal women out there... there is a legitimate reason to fear amourous advances from frustrated liberals.

    http://votingamerican.files.wordpres...0/10/1robb.jpg
  • Mar 4, 2013, 02:00 PM
    paraclete
    And your point is? You feel it is more pleasant to be bent over by republicans?
  • Mar 4, 2013, 02:09 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    and your point is? you feel it is more pleasant to be bent over by republicans?

    Republican men get the republican women... we don't NEED to bend over democrat men.
  • Mar 4, 2013, 02:13 PM
    talaniman
    You let republican men screw you all the time and never holler.
  • Mar 4, 2013, 02:25 PM
    speechlesstx
    My this thread has devolved. I'm telling you, quit talking about wieners and watch the SNL take - all you need to know about the sequester.
  • Mar 4, 2013, 04:06 PM
    tomder55
    If the White House and Congress are looking for a place to cut, how about ending the $7,500 electric vehicle tax credit for those making over $200,000 a year?

    The Congressional Budget Office recently reported that federal EV subsidies will cost taxpayers about $7.5 billion over the next few years .

    CBO Says Electric Vehicle Subsidies to Cost $7.5 Billion With Little Benefit | National Legal and Policy Center

    The majority of those buying "green" vehicles, like General Motors' Chevy Volt, or the even more expensive Tesla are making more money than the average American. Why should those that can afford to buy them get reimbursed $7,500 each ?
    We can start with military procurements of Volts
    Military adding more electric vehicles to fleet - News - Stripes
    Quote:

    Recent moves by Japan's two largest automakers suggest that the electric car, after more than 100 years of development and several brief revivals, still is not ready for prime time - and may never be.

    In the meantime, the attention of automotive executives in Asia, Europe and North America is beginning to swing toward an unusual but promising new alternate power source: hydrogen.

    The reality is that consumers continue to show little interest in electric vehicles, or EVs, which dominated U.S. streets in the first decade of the 20th century before being displaced by gasoline-powered cars.

    Despite the promise of "green" transportation - and despite billions of dollars in investment, most recently by Nissan Motor Co (7201.T) - EVs continue to be plagued by many of the problems that eventually scuttled electrics in the 1910s and more recently in the 1990s. Those include high cost, short driving range and lack of charging stations.

    The public's lack of appetite for battery-powered cars persuaded the Obama administration last week to back away from its aggressive goal to put 1 million electric cars on U.S. roads by 2015.

    The tepid response to EVs also pushed Nissan's high-profile chief executive, Carlos Ghosn, perhaps the industry's most outspoken proponent of battery cars, to announce in December a major strategic shift toward more mainstream gasoline-electric hybrids, which overcome many of the shortcomings of pure EVs.

    The move was widely seen as a tacit acknowledgement by Ghosn that his all-or-nothing, multibillion-dollar bet on EVs is falling far short of his ambition to sell hundreds of thousands of battery-powered Nissan Leafs.

    Instead, Nissan plans to follow rival Toyota Motor Co (7203.T), the world's largest purveyor of hybrids, which now is poised to leapfrog pure EVs altogether to pursue what might be the next big green-tech breakthrough: pollution- and petroleum-free fuel-cell cars that convert hydrogen to electricity.

    Vice Chairman Takeshi Uchiyamada, the "father of the Prius" who helped put hybrids on the map, said he believes fuel-cell vehicles hold far more promise than battery electric cars.

    "Because of its shortcomings - driving range, cost and recharging time - the electric vehicle is not a viable replacement for most conventional cars," said Uchiyamada. "We need something entirely new."
    Electric cars head toward another dead end | Reuters
  • Mar 4, 2013, 04:27 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You let republican men screw you all the time and never holler.

    Not hardly... the only ones screwing people are the Democrats... Republicans tell them to go out and earn it... Liberals feels it's their duty to rob those who DID go out and work for it.
  • Mar 4, 2013, 04:28 PM
    smoothy
    Rescind Obamacare... you can save $1.5 Trillion a year with NO other cuts needed.
  • Mar 4, 2013, 09:47 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    If the White House and Congress are looking for a place to cut, how about ending the $7,500 electric vehicle tax credit for those making over $200,000 a year?

    The Congressional Budget Office recently reported that federal EV subsidies will cost taxpayers about $7.5 billion over the next few years .

    CBO Says Electric Vehicle Subsidies to Cost $7.5 Billion With Little Benefit | National Legal and Policy Center

    The majority of those buying "green" vehicles, like General Motors' Chevy Volt, or the even more expensive Tesla are making more money than the average American. Why should those that can afford to buy them get reimbursed $7,500 each ?
    We can start with military procurements of Volts
    Military adding more electric vehicles to fleet - News - Stripes

    Electric cars head toward another dead end | Reuters

    I see once again you fail to grasp the meaning of subsidy, If these vehicles are not subsidised no one is going to buy them and the technology will not develop. They had electric vehicles back in 1900, I agree it doesn't need a subsidy because the idea was a failure then and it is a failure now
  • Mar 5, 2013, 07:31 AM
    talaniman
    I imagine they could do things better than have this sequester go into effect. But Bonehead has admitted he can't get anything done in the house because any bill the TParty crafts is dead on arrival at the senate.

    Bonehead also knows he can get some republicans and democrats to back a senate plan. The senate will probably pass something then the house, and the right will holler and call for Boneheads head. No repub in the house wants Bonehead's job but Nancy, and if things continue down this path she may well get it in 2014.
  • Mar 5, 2013, 07:48 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I imagine they could do things better than have this sequester go into effect. But Bonehead has admitted he can't get anything done in the house because any bill the TParty crafts is dead on arrival at the senate.

    Bonehead also knows he can get some republicans and democrats to back a senate plan. The senate will probably pass something then the house, and the right will holler and call for Boneheads head. No repub in the house wants Bonehead's job but Nancy, and if things continue down this path she may well get it in 2014.

    So stop blaming the Repblicans and put the blame where it belongs... with Democrats in the Senate. You just showed the Republicans are doing something.. its the Dumbocrats that are the roadblock.
  • Mar 5, 2013, 08:43 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I imagine they could do things better than have this sequester go into effect. But Bonehead has admitted he can't get anything done in the house because any bill the TParty crafts is dead on arrival at the senate.

    Bonehead also knows he can get some republicans and democrats to back a senate plan. The senate will probably pass something then the house, and the right will holler and call for Boneheads head. No repub in the house wants Bonehead's job but Nancy, and if things continue down this path she may well get it in 2014.

    You don't know how the system works yet ? The House passes a bill... the Senate passes a bill... then a conference committee irons out the difference. The House has passed budgets.. it doesn't matter that the Senate won't pass the same version. They can pass their own... but they won't because they don't want to own it.
  • Mar 5, 2013, 08:54 AM
    talaniman
    The new house has not submitted anything for a budget and you know as well as I do that they at least have to revive an old bill and resubmit it as a current proposal and VOTE again on it. Bonehead knows that too, yet has not done so. Why? Because it gets buried in the senate at worst, or changed in the senate at best before going back to he house.

    To get around TParty obstruction, and destruction agenda, The senate has to start the law making process, and Bonehead knows that too. The house is divided and effectively rendered useless to initiate anything, or do its job effectively. On the majority republican side.
  • Mar 5, 2013, 08:58 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    What we see, is what we get. Nothing is going to change. There'll be NO work done in the remaining Obama years. Our problems will be left over for the next president to fix IF she can, and IF the country survives..

    excon
  • Mar 5, 2013, 09:08 AM
    speechlesstx
    Tal, you know damn well the House has done their job over and over. Stop blaming them for the Senate refusing to do theirs. This is the 4th year Reid has refused to submit a budget AS REQUIRED BY LAW. That you would keep assigning blame to the body which has passed budgets while excusing Democrats who refuse to complete their lawful duties is enlightening.
  • Mar 5, 2013, 09:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    What we see, is what we get. Nothing is gonna change. There'll be NO work done in the remaining Obama years. Our problems will be left over for the next president to fix IF she can, and IF the country survives..

    excon

    How is anyone going to get anything done when Obama is still on a permanent campaign?
  • Mar 5, 2013, 09:14 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The new house has not submitted anything for a budget and you know as well as I do that they at least have to revive an old bill and resubmit it as a current proposal and VOTE again on it. Bonehead knows that too, yet has not done so. Why? Because it gets buried in the senate at worst, or changed in the senate at best before going back to he house.

    To get around TParty obstruction, and destruction agenda, The senate has to start the law making process, and Bonehead knows that too. The house is divided and effectively rendered useless to initiate anything, or do its job effectively. On the majority republican side.

    No ;perhaps he's been dealing constantly with the President's manufactured crisis' of the week. Like I said . The Dems have passed a budget for the fiscal year (which you know does not begin in January ) . It's the Senate's turn.
  • Mar 5, 2013, 01:45 PM
    paraclete
    I have never heard anything so childish
  • Mar 5, 2013, 01:59 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    I have never heard anything so childish

    And yet that is EXACTLY what Obama is doing... he doesn't want to accept responsibility for anything.

    Was't long ago congress actuyally agree to give Obama everything he was demanding... just to shut him up... he rejected his own demands... because he would them own the situation lock stock and barrel.

    Obama doesn't want to solve anything... he's on a rampage to make whitey pay for every perceived fault his cocain addled mind has halucinated.
  • Mar 5, 2013, 02:35 PM
    paraclete
    That's a little strong smoothy you think he is on drugs, I have to admit I think your house and senate politicians might be but the WH they don't control the process
  • Mar 5, 2013, 02:36 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    no ;perhaps he's been dealing constantly with the President's manufactured crisis' of the week. Like I said . The Dems have passed a budget for the fiscal year (which you know does not begin in January ) . It's the Senate's turn.

    Should read the Repubics have passed a budget for the fiscal year (which you know does not begin in January )
  • Mar 5, 2013, 02:38 PM
    paraclete
    You answering your own posts now Tom?
  • Mar 5, 2013, 02:57 PM
    talaniman
    Naw he made a correction but this congress has passed nothing for the sequester, or CR due March 23rd. What part of any bill the last congress passed is null and void is it you don't understand?
  • Mar 5, 2013, 03:09 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Naw he made a correction but this congress has passed nothing for the sequester, or CR due March 23rd. What part of any bill the last congress passed is null and void is it you don't understand?

    Geez dude, give it a rest.

    P.S. WaPo let the cat out of the bag anyway, we already know Obama has already quit governing to focus on campaigning (already) for 2014 so it doesn't matter what the GOP does, your guy has no intention of doing anything.

    Quote:

    "The goal is to flip the Republican-held House back to Democratic control, allowing Obama to push forward with a progressive agenda on gun control, immigration, climate change and the economy during his final two years in office, according to congressional Democrats, strategists and others familiar with Obama's thinking," reports the Post, which is hardly hostile to the President.
  • Mar 5, 2013, 03:22 PM
    speechlesstx
    Ok, this is how unserious our president is. Due to the sequester he's canceling White House tours.

    Quote:

    The White House announced Tuesday that it was canceling all public tours of the president’s home because of the sequester spending cuts.

    “Due to staffing reductions resulting from sequestration, we regret to inform you that White House Tours will be canceled effective Saturday, March 9, 2013 until further notice. Unfortunately, we will not be able to reschedule affected tours,” the White House said in an email

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...13/mar/5/more-
    And you thought Bush was a dufus? This guy is positively juvenile in his approach to governing. I'm with Jim Geraghty, furlough the WH chefs and let 'em eat baloney sandwiches instead.
  • Mar 5, 2013, 04:38 PM
    smoothy
    Yet we don't see OweBama cutting back on white house travel... because he's the messiah... Sequester cuts are only for the lowly help...
  • Mar 5, 2013, 05:22 PM
    paraclete
    Yeh if BO was serious he would cut his own salary for the duration of the sequester, then as a monkey he would be working for peanuts
  • Mar 5, 2013, 05:46 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Naw he made a correction but this congress has passed nothing for the sequester, or CR due March 23rd. What part of any bill the last congress passed is null and void is it you don't understand?

    What you mean to say is that the House passed a budget for 2013 ,and the Senate DEMS were negligent in their duty. Now AGAIN the House will do their duty before the end of the month and Paul Ryan will unveil his plan for the 2014 budget . Senate Budget Chair Patty Murray will put out her proposal by the end of March too. But unlike the House ,the Senate proposal will sit on Harry Reid' shelf. The do-nothing Dem Senate will be content... or at least they would've in the past .
    But now there is a new twist .You see ,this year it's no ticky no washy .Thanks to the No Budget, No Pay Act, the House and Senate are each obligated to pass their own budget resolution by April 15 or they don't get their pay. If EITHER house fails to pass a budget then their pay is withheld .
    Of course there is no deadline on a reconciliation ,but at least the Senate Dems will be on record of having no plan except tax increases.

    But before all this is the CR deadline March 27.I still say let the government shutdown ,or pass a CR that defunds Obamacare .
  • Mar 5, 2013, 06:20 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Yeh if BO was serious he would cut his own salary for the duration of the sequester, then as a monkey he would be working for peanuts

    Bananas... elephants work for peanuts.
  • Mar 5, 2013, 06:54 PM
    paraclete
    So what do donkeys work for
  • Mar 8, 2013, 08:17 AM
    speechlesstx
    Since the child who would be king decided to cancel White House tours instead of USDA wine tastings, Eric Bolling of Fox News offered to pay for a week of tours out of his own pocket:

    Quote:

    In a Facebook post on Thursday, anchor Eric Bolling announced that he will offer to personally pay the costs to keep the tours at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue open for a week.

    During Thursday evening’s episode of “The Five,” Bolling elaborated. “I will absolutely write the check if they open the doors next week.”

    “I’ll make you a deal Mr. President…Let these families take their White House tours next week and I’ll cover the added expenses. Word is it will cost around $74,000.”

    Referencing White House press secretary Jay Carney, the Fox host added: “Mr Carney, you know this an offer you can’t refuse. Give me a call.”

    Read more: Bolling offers to personally pay to keep White House tours open | The Daily Caller
    Hannity offered to pay for a week also. .
  • Mar 8, 2013, 08:39 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Yeah, That would be EXACTLY what Obama should do.

    Let me ask you this. Are you posting because you actually believe that Obama SHOULD take their offer, or are you interested in ramping up more FOX News hate?

    Never mind.

    excon

    PS> By the way, Hannity also said that he'd let himself be waterboarded, and that was a lie. So, we KNOW where he stands on stuff.

    PPS> (edited) Additionally, if you're trying to impress me quotes from Tucker Carlson's website, you're FAILING badly. He's a worse LIAR than Hannity.
  • Mar 8, 2013, 08:56 AM
    speechlesstx
    You keep calling Carlson a liar but haven't backed it up yet. As for the other guys, I just think it's funny as hell watching Obama get gigged for his stupid, pathetic, juvenile sequester games... no matter who does it. You know he's losing this PR battle don't you?
  • Mar 8, 2013, 09:13 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    so what do donkeys work for

    Dry aged Delmonico steaks. We have our standards.
  • Mar 8, 2013, 01:47 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Dry aged Delmonico steaks. We have our standards.

    So you are a democrat at heart
  • Mar 8, 2013, 01:51 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    so you are a democrat at heart

    No.. I outgrew that in my mid 20's. After I learned the world is not the way the newpapers and TV tries to portray it. Been a conservative ever since.


    I'm still waiting to win the lottery so I can go to a real good steak house and get one of those dry aged Delmonico steaks... its not cheap.. in fact they are damned expensive.

    Until then I have to be happy with what I buy in the store and grill myself.
  • Mar 8, 2013, 02:08 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    No..I outgrew that in my mid 20's. After I learned the world is not the way the newpapers and TV trys to portray it. Been a conservative ever since.


    I'm still waiting to win the lottery so I can go to a real good steak house and get one of those dry aged Delmonico steaks.....its not cheap..in fact they are damned expensive.

    until then I have to be happy with what I buy in the store and grill myself.

    You only live once
  • Mar 10, 2013, 11:50 PM
    paraclete
    This piece begs the question, should the President be sequestered?

    First Couple's Sequester Sacrifice: Date Nights - Forbes
  • Mar 11, 2013, 03:01 AM
    tomder55
    He should've considered the image and the expense of him going to Manhattan on a date night ;or the 1st couple travelling separately to Hawaii vacations ,or the many flights he has taken for no other purpose than to have a backdrop for a policy (campaign )speech .But he is a celebrity living large on other people's money .
    When Bush needed time out he would take the short trip to Camp David where there wasn't the need for the same level of Secret Service protection. When he vacationed ;he went to his own home cleared brush and rode bicycles. And that was a time when the economy was doing well.
    Yes they should publish the cost of every junket the President takes until a budget deal is reached .
  • Mar 11, 2013, 10:53 AM
    smoothy
    So much for the WHite House have a descretionary cut to have to deal with...

    Adele And Beyonce To Sing At Michelle Obama's Birthday Party|Fox Kansas | KSAS-TV | Wichita News, Weather & Sports | FOX Programming

    There is money to throw Mrs. Wide-load a party.. but not to have White house tours... but they do to have a big party and all the security that goes with it.

    Goes to show the hypocrisy in this administration. Heaven forbid the Mr. and Mrs. God cut back a bit on anything at all.

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