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  • Feb 25, 2013, 10:17 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Hmmm Kyrzakhstan.......isn't that where Borat came from ?

    No that's the place who were upset with Borat who made his film in Bulgaria

    You know Kyrzakhistan, wide open spaces, windy place, space port
  • Feb 27, 2013, 03:32 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Good thing we have a new Sec State to clarify the President's foreign policy . I bet even Evita did not know there was a nation called “Kyrzakhstan,” who has been a major ally in the war on terror .
    John Kerry gaffe: Secretary of State makes up new country 'Kyrzakhstan' | Mail Online

    Imagine the US press if former Sec State Condi Rice had made such a gaff!! If you need an example ,just look at how they trashed Romney over his alleged gaffs on his foreign junkets . Imagine what they would've said if Sarah Palin had said that!!
    Hmmm Kyrzakhstan... isn't that where Borat came from ?

    And in Germany he offered this great reason to be an American... you have the right to be stupid.

    Quote:

    'In America, you have a right to be stupid, if you want to be,' he said. 'And you have a right to be disconnected to somebody else if you want to be. And we tolerate that - we somehow make it through that."

    Read more: John Kerry says Americans 'have a right to be stupid' and tells how he lost his diplomatic passport at age 12 after sneaking out to Soviet-controlled East Berlin in 1950s | Mail Online
    Anyone that can find Kyrzakhstan should know...

    http://www.jasonbennion.com/photos/a..._bunnysuit.jpg
  • Feb 27, 2013, 06:44 PM
    smoothy
    Well, Consider the President that visited all 57 states nominated the Buffoon John Kerry...

    Goes to show you morons like to surround themselves with other morons.
  • Feb 27, 2013, 06:46 PM
    paraclete
    It depends on who you have available, both sides appear to have a good crop of morons and fellow travellers
  • Feb 27, 2013, 06:48 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    It depends on who you have available, both sides appear to have a good crop of morons and fellow travellers

    Except his fellow morons were praising him for the last 5 years as the smartest man to ever run for or hold the office.

    Personally I haven't seen a single intelligent remark come out of that mans mouth yet, or done a single intelligent action that I can remember. Hell he even claimed credit for killing Bin Laden after years of crying foul over the programs and policies put in place by George Bush to find Bin Laden that actually led to us finding him..
  • Feb 27, 2013, 06:54 PM
    paraclete
    Look it isn't every one who gets a Nobel Prize before you have actually done anything, but he must have got it for talk so what else is new. He might be the smartest who ever held office but they forgot to put the rider to that, he didn't have much competition. One thing is certain he hasn't made the same gaffs as some of his predecessors but give him time
  • Feb 27, 2013, 07:47 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And in Germany he offered this great reason to be an American...you have the right to be stupid.



    Anyone that can find Kyrzakhstan should know...

    http://www.jasonbennion.com/photos/a..._bunnysuit.jpg

    And stupid Americans can get stuck in Iraq .
    http://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/so...r-to-kerry.jpg
  • Feb 27, 2013, 08:01 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Look it isn't every one who gets a Nobel Prize before you have actually done anything, but he must have got it for talk so what else is new. He might be the smartest who ever held office but they forgot to put the rider to that, he didn't have much competition. One thing is certain he hasn't made the same gaffs as some of his predecessors but give him time

    He hasn't made the same gaffs? You haven't been looking too hard have you?

    https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclien...=2048&bih=1006

    https://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=Obam...=2048&bih=1006





    I hold getting the Nobel Prize with the same esteem getting the Publishers Clearing houses sweepstakes notice I might have won...

    But I don't think you had those mass mailings down under... but you might have had something similar.
  • Feb 27, 2013, 08:37 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    He hasn't made the same gaffs? You haven't been looking too hard have you?


    Guess they are not so obvious at a distance, we have our own bunch of morons to keep track of, like Julia of the seven month election campaign, or Julia of the actual staying overnight in Western Sydney, Julia of the Mining Tax that raises no revenue, Wayne of the surplus we have just got to have, the rest are just too idiotic to comment on, needless to say they don't all originate with one person

    Quote:

    I hold getting the Nobel Prize with the same esteem getting the Publishers Clearing houses sweepstakes notice I might have won...

    But I don't think you had those mass mailings down under... but you might have had something similar.
    We get plagued by Readers Digest I expect it is the same thing, we also have a really neat thing going on with Australia Post where you can't opt out of their junk mail, I expect they learned that from you
  • Feb 27, 2013, 08:39 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    guess they are not so obvious at a distance, we have our own bunch of morons to keep track of, like Julia of the seven month election campaign, or Julia of the actual staying overnight in Western Sydney, Julia of the Mining Tax that raises no revenue, Wayne of the surplus we have just got to have, the rest are just too idiotic to comment on, needless to say they don't all originate with one person



    we get plagued by Readers Digest I expect it is the same thing, we also have a really neat thing going on with Australia Post where you can't opt out of their junk mail, I expect they learned that from you

    Well, I'll give you a pass on that being you live on the far side of the planet. ABC "news" just got caught creatively editing Moochelle Obamas interview to edit out a stupid gaff she made the other day... only got caught because an unedited copy existed...
  • Feb 27, 2013, 08:53 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Well, I'll give you a pass on that being you live on the far side of the planet. ABC "news" just got caught creatively editing Moochelle Obamas interview to edit out a stupid gaff she made the other day...only got caught because an unedited copy existed...

    Is that your ABC or ours? I wouldn't put too much store in what our ABC does, they see themselves as truth in media and let it all hang out
  • Feb 28, 2013, 06:45 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Is that your ABC or ours? I wouldn't put too much store in what our ABC does, they see themselves as truth in media and let it all hang out

    I was referring to our ABC news... in the USA... being your ABC news gets zero airplay here.
  • Feb 28, 2013, 06:51 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    they see themselves as truth in media and let it all hang out
    yeah ;all the major networks delude themselves into thinking they are the gate-keepers of truth.
  • Feb 28, 2013, 07:01 AM
    smoothy
    Here the majority of the media has an unwritten credo " We give you all the news the way we want you to think it happened"


    Hell they can't even get local stories right... I know immediate family of one of the high profile murders that's still in the news here... and according to them they aren't even reporting that accurately. And Politics aren't even a factor in that story.
  • Feb 28, 2013, 07:04 AM
    excon
    Hello Benziniers:

    You SAY 4 dead people is enough for the congress to loose its mind, and GET to the bottom of it...

    But, 11 people died on the BP platform, and when the exec's appeared before congress, you wingers fawned all over them.

    What's with THAT?

    excon
  • Feb 28, 2013, 07:11 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello Benziniers:

    You SAY 4 dead people is enough for the congress to loose its mind, and GET to the bottom of it...

    But, 11 people died on the BP platform, and when the BP exec's appeared before congress, you wingers fawned all over them.

    What's with THAT?

    excon

    Ex... we had rapid reaction forces on duty... in Sicily Italy stationsed there fore a very long time for exactly this type of situation... they train for this... they live for this... they were a 45 minute flight away... they could have scrambled.. and been there within 2 hours tops of the order... Bengahzi lasted over 9 hours.

    The White house refused to deploy them.

    But then look at the stink you lefties still get your panties in a knot over a hotel room break in where nobody even got a paper cut... DECADES AGO at Watergate.
  • Feb 28, 2013, 02:33 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Ex....we had rapid reaction forces on duty....in Sicily Italy stationsed there fore a very long time for exactly this type of situation.....they train for this....they live for this....they were a 45 minute flight away....they could have scrambled..and been there within 2 hours tops of the order....Bengahzi lasted over 9 hours.

    The White house refused to deploy them.

    But then look at the stink you lefties still get your panties in a knot over a hotel room break in where nobody even got a paper cut.....DECADES AGO at Watergate.

    When will you learn, you can't just deploy your forces into another country. To deploy there would have to be permission from the Libyans and from the start they said they didn't want americans or foreign troops on the ground

    You live in a fantasy world, delta force and all that crap, it might be all right to take out Bin Laden that way but to respond to some nondescript little incident that way...
  • Feb 28, 2013, 05:02 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    When will you learn, you can't just deploy your forces into another country. To deploy there would have to be permission from the Libyans and from the start they said they didn't want americans or foriegn troops on the ground

    You live in a fantasy world, delta force and all that crap, it might be alright to take out Bin Laden that way but to respond to some nondescript little incident that way.............

    Bullsh*t... Obama was already using our Air-force and ground observers there... plus an attack like that on an Embassy is a Recognized act of war even by the UN... which give us every right to respond.

    And what passes as news over there might not have covered it very well... but it was not a "LITTLE INCIDENT" Well armed Terrorists attacked... overran it... burned it and Killed 4 Americans.

    And under International law... an Embassy is Sovereign territory of that country that is represented in it. Which means an Attack on a US Embassy abroad is no different than an attack within the United States itself.
  • Mar 2, 2013, 07:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    I think Pat Caddell is right...

    Obama is the closest thing to Nixon we've seen in 40 year
  • Mar 2, 2013, 07:27 AM
    talaniman
    So you and Pat want the name of those who were in all likely hood cia operatives made public?
  • Mar 2, 2013, 07:38 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    So you and Pat want the name of those who were in all likely hood cia operatives made public?

    Congress can't know? You missed the larger point, you apparently approve of Obama's lies and corruption and media complicity. My how things have changed since Bush was in office.
  • Mar 2, 2013, 07:50 AM
    talaniman
    Who in congress is asking for names? More to the point, why would a journalist need to know? I doubt seriously if the ones on the intelligence committees of congress would share those names with the public any way. Or say anything in public.
  • Mar 2, 2013, 08:08 AM
    speechlesstx
    Still missing the forest for the trees.
  • Mar 2, 2013, 08:15 AM
    talaniman
    Don't sidestep the issue, just show me who in congress is doing the hollering.
  • Mar 2, 2013, 08:17 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    I still want to know WHY you don't think 11 dead men on the BP oil platform matter? I want to know WHY, when the CEO appeared before congress, the right wingers were trampling all over themselves to lavish praise upon him.

    excon
  • Mar 2, 2013, 09:10 AM
    talaniman
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57566462/$4-billion-bp-oil-spill-criminal-settlement-approved/

    The right embraces rich criminals who do bad things. Banks, oil, doesn't matter.
  • Mar 2, 2013, 09:26 AM
    smoothy
    Benghazi is a case of criminal neglect by Democrats in the government... Benghazi it 1,000 times worse than Watergate the Democrats have milked for decades.

    Hillary Clinton has blood on her hands... Barrack Obama has even more blood on his hands.
  • Mar 2, 2013, 09:33 AM
    excon
    Hello again, smoothy:

    Quote:

    Benghazi it 1,000 times worse than Watergate
    As long as we're doing math, BP wins 11-4. Oh, by the way, mine is REAL math.

    Excon
  • Mar 2, 2013, 10:08 AM
    tomder55
    I don't remember us 'right wingers' gushing over the BP execs. I do remember Joe Barton saying the slush fund the President extorted from BP was a shake down.
  • Mar 2, 2013, 10:18 AM
    talaniman
    Do YOU think it was a shakedown?
  • Mar 2, 2013, 10:36 AM
    tomder55
    What do you call it ? There was a big difference between the President telling them to fork over some funds without due process ;and the later judicial settlement .
  • Mar 2, 2013, 12:07 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Don't sidestep the issue, just show me who in congress is doing the hollering.

    Um, I raised the issue at hand, you're the one dancing around it
  • Mar 2, 2013, 12:09 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    I still wanna know WHY you don't think 11 dead men on the BP oil platform matter? I wanna know WHY, when the CEO appeared before congress, the right wingers were trampling all over themselves to lavish praise upon him.

    excon

    And if you could show I didn't think the loss of 11 men in an industrial accident didn't matter we could talk.
  • Mar 2, 2013, 02:45 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    What do you call it ? There was a big difference between the President telling them to fork over some funds without due process ;and the later judicial settlement .

    He told them toput some money up front for immediate relief of affected people and the cost of government help, and resources. What tax payers were supposed to ante up for their mistakes?

    And because they did does that let them off the hook for civil and criminal liability? I don't think so.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Um, I raised the issue at hand, you're the one dancing around it

    I asked a simple question, what member of congress hasn't gotten what they need as far as info on Benghazi? There is nothing to dance around they know what they need to, even if it not public yet.

    Screw a reporter trying to make a story out of it.
  • Mar 2, 2013, 03:45 PM
    speechlesstx
    So you 're still stuck on a sentence, not the most transparent administration ever's similarity to Nixon.
  • Mar 20, 2013, 06:04 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    This is as good a place as any to ask my question. You righty's are worried about 4 dead, and you WANT answers..

    On the 10 year anniversary of the Iraq war, I want to know if Bush/Cheney LIED or the CIA was incompetent... We lost over 4,000 dead and over 30,000 wounded. The cost is in the TRILLIONS... And, I WANT answers.

    You don't?

    excon

    PS> And we LOST the war too.

    PPS> (edited) Uhhh. They want us to go into Syria and Iran too.
  • Mar 20, 2013, 06:22 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    This is as good a place as any to ask my question. You righty's are worried about 4 dead, and you WANT answers..

    On the 10 year anniversary of the Iraq war, I wanna know if Bush/Cheney LIED or the CIA was incompetent... We lost over 4,000 dead and over 30,000 wounded. The cost is in the TRILLIONS... And, I WANT answers.

    You don't?

    excon

    PS> And we LOST the war too.

    PPS> (edited) Uhhh. They want us to go into Syria and Iran too.

    Remember the stink you lefties made of watergate... where NOBODY DIED...

    I think Obama should be impeached... 4 people dead because he was too stupid to pay attention is orders of magnitude worse than a simple burglery someone else committed where nobody even got a paper cut.

    If we lost the Iraq war its because Owebama ran away like a coward.

    We wouldn't have lost Vietnam if they had treated that like a real war... measured responses is the Politically correct term for halfazzing it. Like we were doing there under the rules to prevent engagement Obama imposed.

    And incidentally... Bush and CHeney didn't lie... putting your hands over your ears and going lalallalalallalallala doesn't change the fact the intelligence shows there was WMDs... WMD's WERE found... and prood exists that some of those were sent to Syria...
  • Mar 20, 2013, 06:38 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    This is as good a place as any to ask my question. You righty's are worried about 4 dead, and you WANT answers..

    On the 10 year anniversary of the Iraq war, I wanna know if Bush/Cheney LIED or the CIA was incompetent... We lost over 4,000 dead and over 30,000 wounded. The cost is in the TRILLIONS... And, I WANT answers.

    You don't?

    excon

    PS> And we LOST the war too.

    PPS> (edited) Uhhh. They want us to go into Syria and Iran too.

    Obama lost the war when he failed to renew the status of forces agreement . Now the enemy is resurgent in Iraq and is for all intents and purposes the same as the jihadists fighting in Syria now . Yesterday the al-Nusra front in Syria used chemical weapons and blamed it on Assad. All indications are that they have the same chlorine signature that AQ in Iraq's chemical weapons had. (yes there were WMD in Iraq... NOBODY disputed that ) .

    You supported the Arab Spring.. look what that unleashed . Why don't you want answers for that ?
  • Mar 20, 2013, 06:48 AM
    excon
    Hello again, tom:

    Couple things... You SAY the WMD's were there, but they could NOT be found. In order to cover for your neo-con buddies, of course, you'd say they were there. Frankly, I have more confidence in our military than you do. If there WERE WMD, our boys would have found them. Don't you think the question would be worth a committee hearing??

    In terms of ANSWERS, Bush/Cheney et all work for ME. The Arab Springers don't.

    excon
  • Mar 20, 2013, 06:51 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    This is as good a place as any to ask my question. You righty's are worried about 4 dead, and you WANT answers..

    On the 10 year anniversary of the Iraq war, I wanna know if Bush/Cheney LIED or the CIA was incompetent... We lost over 4,000 dead and over 30,000 wounded. The cost is in the TRILLIONS... And, I WANT answers.

    You don't?

    excon

    PS> And we LOST the war too.

    PPS> (edited) Uhhh. They want us to go into Syria and Iran too.

    Uh, Obama walked away. So what answers do you want that you don't already have? I personally would like to hear from the Benghazi survivors that have been muzzled, wouldn't you?

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