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  • Nov 13, 2012, 07:25 PM
    excon
    Hello clete:

    I have no problem if people want to go. Just leave the dirt. It's OURS.

    excon
  • Nov 13, 2012, 08:16 PM
    paraclete
    Therein lies the problem Ex they see it as theirs, Tell you what, load them on boats and send them over here, if they survive the voyage we have a nice tropical island they can stay on. What we have is lots of dirt, lovely red dirt and we would like a better class of economic refugees
  • Nov 14, 2012, 04:35 AM
    tomder55
    Perry: Texas Will Not Secede From US « CBS Houston

    Some of the people who signed the petition are from blue states . Doesn't make much sense . All they'd be doing is creating another nation dominated by libs.
  • Nov 14, 2012, 05:04 AM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Perry: Texas Will Not Secede From US « CBS Houston

    some of the people who signed the petition are from blue states . Doesn't make much sense . All they'd be doin is creating another nation dominated by libs.

    Sounds like wonderland to me. I wish them luck. ;) lol
  • Nov 14, 2012, 06:27 AM
    speechlesstx
    Just wow, some idiots starting petitions at Obama's request is worse than a college professor denying Stalin was a bad guy? You lefties are pathological dodgers.
  • Nov 14, 2012, 07:02 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Quote:

    You lefties are pathological dodgers.
    And, you, my friend, are pathological deniers... You got TROUNCED, and now we're going to TAKE the spoils.

    If you complained about Obamacare being SHOVED down your throats, I'm SURE you're not going to like the tax hikes we're going to SHOVE. Elections HAVE consequences..

    Come on, Steve... If Romney had won, you'd SHOVE YOUR right wing agenda down OUR throats... You know it too.

    Excon
  • Nov 14, 2012, 07:13 AM
    speechlesstx
    I'm not denying anything, ex. We got beat, but as the Dems' mantra of a few years ago said, 51% is not a mandate.
  • Nov 14, 2012, 07:43 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    As I said, you are the KINGS of deniers. But, you got CLOBBERED, and you're going to feel it. Things is DIFFERENT now... Obama's first term has been VALIDATED by the American public. YOUR policies have been roundly REPUDIATED.

    In fact, had your local Republican controlled state legislatures NOT redrawn (gerrymandered) the congressional districts to PROTECT Republicans, the Democrats WOULD have retaken the House.

    This ISN'T idle speculation. It's ARITHMETIC! You got TROUNCED!

    excon
  • Nov 14, 2012, 08:10 AM
    speechlesstx
    Obama received 7.6 million fewer votes than the first time around, that's arithmetic. Republicans now hold 30 governorships, that's arithmetic. As Abe Greenwald said and I think he may be right, one of the reasons Obama won is Americans have some illogical crush on Obama.

    Quote:

    Obama couldn’t run on his record, which proved to be no problem—Americans didn’t vote on his record. According to exit polls, 77 percent of voters said the economy is bad and only 25 percent said they’re better off than they were four years ago. But since six in ten voters claimed the economy as their number one issue, it’s clear this election wasn’t about issues at all.

    The president’s reelection is not evidence of a new liberal America, but rather of the illogical and confused experience that is infatuation. For multiple reasons, Americans continue to have a crush on Barack Obama even after his universally panned first term. No longer quite head over heels, they’re at the “I know he’s no good for me, but I can change him” phase. Whatever this means, it surely doesn’t suggest conservatives would be wise to move closer to policies that aren’t even popular among Obama supporters.
    You're just trying to do what Obama did and discourage people. Horse hockey, I'm not buying your "you got trounced so bend over and take it in the backside like a good b*tch" strategy. We're not going away.
  • Nov 14, 2012, 09:00 AM
    NeedKarma
    Well at least we now know what neo-conservative jews think in their blogs.
  • Nov 14, 2012, 10:41 AM
    speechlesstx
    Obviously you don't think the Obama phenomenon is a personality cult. You must have missed his first run.

    Quote:

    Obama is, of course, greater than Jesus." -- Politiken (Danish newspaper)

    "No one saw him coming, and Christians believe God comes at us from strange angles and places we don't expect, like Jesus being born in a manger." --Lawrence Carter

    "Many even see in Obama a messiah-like figure, a great soul, and some affectionately call him Mahatma Obama." -- Dinesh Sharma

    "We just like to say his name. We are considering taking it as a mantra." -- Chicago] Sun-Times

    "A Lightworker -- An Attuned Being with Powerful Luminosity and High-Vibration Integrity who will actually help usher in a New Way of Being" -- Mark Morford

    "What Barack Obama has accomplished is the single most extraordinary event that has occurred in the 232 years of the nation’s political history" -- Jesse Jackson, Jr.

    "Does it not feel as if some special hand is guiding Obama on his journey, I mean, as he has said, the utter improbability of it all?" -- Daily Kos

    "He communicates God-like energy... " -- Steve Davis (Charleston, SC)

    "Not just an ordinary human being but indeed an Advanced Soul" -- Commentator @ Chicago Sun Times

    "I'll do whatever he says to do. I'll collect paper cups off the ground to make his pathway clear." -- Halle Berry

    "A quantum leap in American consciousness" -- Deepak Chopra

    "He is not operating on the same plane as ordinary politicians.. . The agent of transformation in an age of revolution, as a figure uniquely qualified to open the door to the 21st century." -- Gary Hart

    "Barack Obama is our collective representation of our purest hopes, our highest visions and our deepest knowings.. . He's our product out of the all-knowing quantum field of intelligence." -- Eve Konstantine

    "This is bigger than Kennedy.. . This is the New Testament." | "I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often. No, seriously. It's a dramatic event." -- Chris Matthews

    "[Obama is ] creative imagination which coupled with brilliance equals wisdom.. . [He is] the man for this time." -- Toni Morrison

    "Obama's finest speeches do not excite. They do not inform. They don't even really inspire. They elevate.. . He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh.. . Obama is, at his best, able to call us back to our highest selves." -- Ezra Klein

    "Obama has the capacity to summon heroic forces from the spiritual depths of ordinary citizens and to unleash therefrom a symphonic chorus of unique creative acts whose common purpose is to tame the soul and alleviate the great challenges facing mankind." -- Gerald Campbell

    "We're here to evolve to a higher plane.. . He is an evolved leader.. . [he] has an ear for eloquence and a Tongue dipped in the Unvarnished Truth." -- Oprah Winfrey

    “I would characterize the Senate race as being a race where Obama was, let’s say, blessed and highly favored. That’s not routine. There’s something else going on. I think that Obama, his election to the Senate, was divinely ordered.. . I know that that was God’s plan." -- Bill Rush
  • Nov 14, 2012, 11:15 AM
    NeedKarma
    Good for the american people. All those people are allowed to speak their opinions.
  • Nov 14, 2012, 11:24 AM
    speechlesstx
    True, they all have the right to be complete morons.
  • Nov 14, 2012, 11:26 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Yeah, we LIKE our leader. Maybe if YOU liked Romney as well, he might be president...

    Bwa, ha ha ha.

    excon
  • Nov 14, 2012, 11:32 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    True, they all have the right to be complete morons.
    They are your fellow americans.
  • Nov 14, 2012, 12:10 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    They are your fellow americans.
    I'll remember that next time someone here plays the race card.
  • Nov 14, 2012, 12:13 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Yeah, we LIKE our leader. Maybe if YOU liked Romney as well, he might be president...
    I do like Romney, but those examples were way past LIKE. That was creepy. Mentally unbalanced creepy.
  • Nov 14, 2012, 12:19 PM
    talaniman
    Some idiots want to keep fighting even after the war is over, and they lost. Cooler heads will prevail. Just wait until they need services and benefit that American have. But they haven't thought that far ahead but I wonder when Texas leaves will they take the govenor with them?

    You do know the Cowboys are America's team don't you? I doubt Jerry Jones signs anything!
  • Nov 14, 2012, 01:02 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Some idiots want to keep fighting even after the war is over
    Oh the irony. Your side is still whining about 2000.
  • Nov 15, 2012, 03:29 AM
    TUT317
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I do like Romney, but those examples were way past LIKE. That was creepy. Mentally unbalanced creepy.


    I think it is more like this:

    On the day you or I achieve a stable condition of equilibrium, those around us who have been less fortunate will draw one of two conclusions. Either that we are dead or that we have slipped into a state of clinically diagnosable delusion. And to live in delusion is to live in the comfort of ideology

    John Ralston Saul


    .
  • Nov 15, 2012, 07:28 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    I think it is more like this:

    On the day you or I achieve a stable condition of equilibrium, those around us who have been less fortunate will draw one of two conclusions. Either that we are dead or that we have slipped into a state of clinically diagnosable delusion. And to live in delusion is to live in the comfort of ideology

    John Ralston Saul
    Close enough.
  • Nov 15, 2012, 08:51 AM
    talaniman
    Let me know when you guys reach your equilibrium, and get out of the delusion of ideology.
  • Nov 15, 2012, 08:56 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Let me know when you guys reach your equilibrium, and get out of the delusion of ideology.
    I don't think he really understood Tut's quote.
  • Nov 15, 2012, 09:57 AM
    speechlesstx
    The Gospel According to Apostle Barack: In Search of a More Perfect Political Union as "Heaven Here on Earth"

    Quote:

    "Yes, Barack had worked tirelessly on behalf of the American people, especially those who elected him in 2008. His followers needed to re-elect him to a second term, so that he could continue to accomplish the promises he made, thus, realizing his vision of America as a more perfect political union or “heaven here on earth.”

    Then, as I began to contemplate ways to assist Barack in his 2012 re-election bid something miraculous happened. I felt God’s (His) Spirit beckoning me in my dreams at night. Listening, cautiously, I learned that Jesus walked the earth to create a more civilized society, Martin (Luther King) walked the earth to create a more justified society, but, Apostle Barack, the name he was called in my dreams, would walk the earth to create a more equalized society, for the middle class and working poor. Apostle Barack, the next young leader with a new cause, had been taken to the mountaintop and allowed to see over the other side. He had the answers to unlock the kingdom of “heaven here on earth” for his followers. The answers were repeated - over and over - in speeches Barack had made from his presidential announcement to his inaugural address. Those speeches or his teachings contained the answers to the middle class and working poor people living in a “heaven here on earth.” For when the answers were unlocked and enacted, Apostle Barack’s vision of America would be realized.
    Quote:

    "About the Author - Barbara A. Thompson is a native of Tallahassee, Florida, with graduate degrees from Florida A&M University and Florida State University. She has been teaching for more than twenty-five years at the university level with experience in the areas of health, physical education and sport management. She is a professor at Florida A&M University, a former assistant vice president for academic affairs, past president of her university's chapter of United Faculty of Florida, a graduate of the National Education Association's Emerging Leader Academy and a two-time recipient of the Who's Who Among America's Teachers Award"
    This country is in trouble...
  • Nov 15, 2012, 10:28 AM
    NeedKarma
    Haha, a terrible book with terrible reviews. No lack of those on Amazon.
    How did you find it?
  • Nov 15, 2012, 11:43 AM
    albear
    First saw this on Russel howards good news, tis brilliant :D
  • Dec 5, 2012, 09:17 AM
    speechlesstx
    Amsterdam plans to relocate troublemakers to ‘scum villages’

    Quote:

    In a move that sounds straight out of Orwell, Amsterdam allocated 1 million euros last week to a plan that would relocate trouble-making neighbors to camps on the outskirts of the city, the BBC reports.

    The “scum villages,” as critics have called them, would lie in isolated areas and provide only basic services to their unwilling residents. According to details of the plan reported by Der Spiegel and the BBC, residents will live in “container homes,” under the watchful eye of social workers or police. The residents themselves might not make very good company. According to the BBC, they’ll include families that engage in repeated, small-scale harassment, like bullying gay neighbors or intimidating police witnesses.
    I hear there's even a hotline so you can report your a$$ of a neighbor. What could go wrong?
  • Dec 5, 2012, 02:06 PM
    paraclete
    Seems nazism is never far from european thinking
  • Dec 8, 2012, 10:01 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    I looked for the thread where Steve posted a video about a liberal teacher doing something outrageous to a conservative kid. I clucked my tongue over that one. Anyway, I couldn't find it, so I'm going to post here.

    Democrats don't go to heaven.

    excon
  • Dec 8, 2012, 03:32 PM
    paraclete
    Are you complaining about someone exercising free speech
  • Dec 8, 2012, 05:30 PM
    excon
    Hello clete:

    A teacher doesn't HAVE free speech rights in the classroom.

    excon
  • Dec 8, 2012, 06:21 PM
    paraclete
    Really and I mistakenly thought your much lauded Constitution was for everyone. Goes to show that democracy can be very shallow
  • Dec 8, 2012, 06:25 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    really and I mistakenly thought your much lauded Constitution was for everyone. Goes to show that democracy can be very shallow

    A teacher (or any other professional or student) is first bound by the rules of the institution with which he or she is a part.
  • Dec 8, 2012, 06:27 PM
    paraclete
    So the interstitution supercedes the constitution, I seem to remember a similar argument recently regarding supply of contraception. I think the institution lost. Didn't you country fight a war to preserve the constitution
  • Dec 8, 2012, 06:54 PM
    Wondergirl
    It depends. There was the Tinker v. Des Moines case in 1969 --

    The principles of the Tinker case, which remain valid today, start with the premise that students are persons in and out of school, with fundamental rights. The Court stated that the classroom is a marketplace of ideas and depends on a robust exchange of ideas. Students and teachers don’t “shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate.”

    The Court stated firmly that free speech on campus is the basis of our national strength. “A subject should never be excluded from the classroom merely because it is controversial,” wrote the Court. But does this mean there are no limits–that you can say or do anything while at school? Where is the line drawn?

    The test is one of disturbance or disorder. As long as the act of expression doesn’t greatly disrupt classwork or school activities, or invade the rights of others, it’s acceptable. There’s no hard-and-fast rule that applies to every situation. Each case presents its own set of circumstances and must be dealt with accordingly. It was decided in Tinker that there was no evidence of disruption at school or interference with other students’ rights.
    (Juvenile Supreme Court Cases)
  • Dec 9, 2012, 01:51 AM
    paraclete
    So you agree
  • Dec 10, 2012, 08:08 AM
    speechlesstx
    It's come to this, a liberal NY Times columnist says conservatives have a point on the "safety net".

    Quote:

    Profiting From a Child’s Illiteracy
    By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

    THIS is what poverty sometimes looks like in America: parents here in Appalachian hill country pulling their children out of literacy classes. Moms and dads fear that if kids learn to read, they are less likely to qualify for a monthly check for having an intellectual disability.

    Many people in hillside mobile homes here are poor and desperate, and a $698 monthly check per child from the Supplemental Security Income program goes a long way — and those checks continue until the child turns 18.

    “The kids get taken out of the program because the parents are going to lose the check,” said Billie Oaks, who runs a literacy program here in Breathitt County, a poor part of Kentucky. “It’s heartbreaking.”

    This is painful for a liberal to admit, but conservatives have a point when they suggest that America’s safety net can sometimes entangle people in a soul-crushing dependency. Our poverty programs do rescue many people, but other times they backfire.

    Some young people here don’t join the military (a traditional escape route for poor, rural Americans) because it’s easier to rely on food stamps and disability payments.

    Antipoverty programs also discourage marriage: In a means-tested program like S.S.I. a woman raising a child may receive a bigger check if she refrains from marrying that hard-working guy she likes. Yet marriage is one of the best forces to blunt poverty. In married couple households only one child in 10 grows up in poverty, while almost half do in single-mother households.

    Most wrenching of all are the parents who think it’s best if a child stays illiterate, because then the family may be able to claim a disability check each month.

    “One of the ways you get on this program is having problems in school,” notes Richard V. Burkhauser, a Cornell University economist who co-wrote a book last year about these disability programs. “If you do better in school, you threaten the income of the parents. It’s a terrible incentive.”

    About four decades ago, most of the children S.S.I. covered had severe physical handicaps or mental retardation that made it difficult for parents to hold jobs — about 1 percent of all poor children. But now 55 percent of the disabilities it covers are fuzzier intellectual disabilities short of mental retardation, where the diagnosis is less clear-cut. More than 1.2 million children across America — a full 8 percent of all low-income children — are now enrolled in S.S.I. as disabled, at an annual cost of more than $9 billion.

    That is a burden on taxpayers, of course, but it can be even worse for children whose families have a huge stake in their failing in school. Those kids may never recover: a 2009 study found that nearly two-thirds of these children make the transition at age 18 into S.S.I. for the adult disabled. They may never hold a job in their entire lives and are condemned to a life of poverty on the dole — and that’s the outcome of a program intended to fight poverty.
    I have nothing further to add to that.
  • Dec 10, 2012, 08:11 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Me neither. It's YOU guys who think we're all about government dependency.

    excon
  • Dec 10, 2012, 08:22 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Me neither. It's YOU guys who think we're all about government dependency.

    excon

    I don't see any libs trying to reduce government dependency, do you?
  • Dec 10, 2012, 08:29 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Yes, I do. Jobs would do that, but you guy's are BLOCKING Obama's jobs bill. I don't know how you don't know this, but working brings people out of poverty.

    The way to bring people out of dependency is NOT to cut 'em loose and make 'em fend for themselves... That would by YOUR solution... You believe they're NOT hungry - they're MOOCHERS. You believe they're NOT homeless - they're MOOCHERS. Romney let us in on the secret.

    excon

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