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  • Sep 28, 2012, 06:06 AM
    tomder55
    You want me to quote some Old Testament ?
  • Sep 28, 2012, 06:09 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    you want me to quote some Old Testament ?

    Oh please, I like fictional tales!
  • Sep 28, 2012, 06:38 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:

    Well, he was Jew... But he believed in taking care of his fellow man, didn't he??? He wasn't for throwing them off the cliff, was he???

    Unlike what Obama preaches he did believe in such things - personally and through the church. Jesus NEVER, EVER preached a government Robin Hood gospel of taking from the rich and giving it to the poor.

    Throughout the bible it is a message of personal, voluntary sacrifice and for some inexplicable reason you lefties seem to have contempt for us giving of ourselves to help others instead of channeling everything through a corrupt, extremely inefficient federal government. Makes no sense, dude.
  • Sep 28, 2012, 06:41 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    ...giving of ourselves to help others ...

    Lefties do this too, so do atheists, so do jews, it isn't a "righty" feature, not by a long shot.
  • Sep 28, 2012, 06:43 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    you want me to quote some Old Testament ?

    Why don't you quote some New Testament, doesn't it fit with your thinking?
  • Sep 28, 2012, 06:47 AM
    tomder55
    Clete I already did if you would've looked first.
  • Sep 28, 2012, 06:57 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    you lefties seem to have contempt for us giving of ourselves to help others instead of channeling everything through a corrupt, extremely inefficient federal government. Makes no sense, dude.

    Hello again, Steve:

    You're WONDERFUL people... Nonetheless, I have contempt for ANY party that would FORCE a women to have a baby she didn't want. You want the extremely inefficient FEDERAL government to police THAT. Makes no sense to me, Dude.

    excon
  • Sep 28, 2012, 07:03 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    You're WONDERFUL people... Nonetheless, I have contempt for ANY party that would FORCE a women to have a baby she didn't want. You want the extremely inefficient FEDERAL government to police THAT. Makes no sense to me, Dude.

    excon

    Me either.
  • Sep 28, 2012, 07:13 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    lefties do this too, so do atheists, so do jews, it isn't a "righty" feature, not by a long shot.

    If I had ever even remotely implied it was the exclusive domain of "rightys" then you might have a point, but as always you deflect from the point actually raised in a weak effort to impugn me.

    The point was why does the left seem to have contempt for us preferring private charity than channeling everything through a corrupt, inefficient government?
  • Sep 28, 2012, 07:14 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    You're WONDERFUL people... Nonetheless, I have contempt for ANY party that would FORCE a women to have a baby she didn't want. You want the extremely inefficient FEDERAL government to police THAT. Makes no sense to me, Dude.

    excon

    I just love children more than you I guess.
  • Sep 28, 2012, 07:26 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    The point was why does the left seem to have contempt for us preferring private charity than channeling everything through a corrupt, inefficient government?

    They don't.

    Here's a thought: maybe making changes so that your government is not corrupt and inefficient would worth your time and effort.
  • Sep 28, 2012, 07:27 AM
    tomder55
    That's why we want the Dems voted out
  • Sep 28, 2012, 07:33 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    that's why we want the Dems voted out

    You think your politicians are not part of the corrupt inefficient ones? Oh dear, you have the blinders on.
  • Sep 28, 2012, 07:50 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    They don't.

    Yes they do.
  • Sep 28, 2012, 08:04 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    I've been following closely.. I still can't see the SIGNIFICANCE of the miscalculation Obama made. Terrorists attacked us. It took him a few days to recognize it. So?

    Do you think that makes him weak? Really?? The DRONE president?? The DEAD Ben Laden president?? That president??

    excon
  • Sep 28, 2012, 08:20 AM
    tomder55
    Obama's campaign meme... we killed Bin Laden and destroyed AQ... there have been no terrorist attacks on our watch... oh yeah and we saved GM .

    Well that got shot to hell if he admits AQ successfully attacked and wacked a US Ambassador. Gee when was the last time that happened ? The last Ambassador that got killed was in a plane crash that killed a Paki President . Before that ;a US Ambassador had not been targeted and killed since the 1970s .So who was asleep at the wheel ?
    Even bigger question is that knowing what they knew ? Why did Evita send Susan Rice to be the sacrificial lamb spouting to the nation the clear lie that this was about videos ?

    Eli Lake of Newsweek had been unravelling this story string by string and the more he finds ;the more he reveals that the State Dept knew in advance about the threat to the Ambassador, and did nothing.
  • Sep 28, 2012, 08:24 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Eli Lake of Newsweek had been unravelling this story string by string

    Hello again, tom:

    If he's the guy that told you the Ambassador was raped by his Libyan guards, then I'd find a more credible source. Maybe briebart.com. They know stuff.

    Bwa, ha ha ha.

    excon
  • Sep 28, 2012, 08:38 AM
    smoothy
    Why is the Obama administration treating the results of the Autopsy like Obamas college transcripts? It was performed in Germany in Landstuhl on the US Army base. What are they hiding and why?
  • Sep 28, 2012, 08:41 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    I've been following closely.. I still can't see the SIGNIFICANCE of the miscalculation Obama made. Terrorists attacked us. It took him a few days to recognize it. So?

    Do you think that makes him weak? Really??? The DRONE president??? The DEAD Ben Laden president??? That president???

    excon

    It didn't take him days, they knew in hours. It's a PATTERN of lies from this administration. You think Bush lied? Obama is Bush on STEROIDS.
  • Sep 28, 2012, 08:47 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:

    If he's the guy that told you the Ambassador was raped by his Libyan guards, then I'd find a more credible source. Maybe briebart.com. They know stuff.

    Bwa, ha ha ha.

    excon

    I never brought up the allegations of rape. Eli Lake is a very credible reporter and to my knowledge has not reported anything that is unsubstantiated .
    Eli Lake is the national security correspondent for Newsweek He was previously a State Department correspondent for the UPI. He is also a contributing editor for The New Republic.
  • Sep 28, 2012, 08:48 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:

    If he's the guy that told you the Ambassador was raped by his Libyan guards, then I'd find a more credible source. Maybe briebart.com. They know stuff.

    Bwa, ha ha ha.

    excon

    So even if it's the truth it should be disregarded because of the source? Even Dems are demanding answers now led by John Kerry. I don't get it, if this were Bush there would 4 threads demanding his and Cheney's head on a platter, but you are apparently fine with Obama lying to you and campaigning instead of dealing with a terrorist attack that killed an ambassador.
  • Sep 28, 2012, 08:54 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    but you are apparently fine with Obama lying to you and campaigning instead of dealing with a terrorist attack that killed an ambassador.

    Hello again, Steve:

    So, you don't think the DRONE president is looking for 'em with DRONES??

    I didn't see a lie. I saw a miscalculation. Look. Didn't he wait too long to declare the Army major a terrorist?? He DID, didn't he? Did that miscalculation END the world? Nope. Did it CHANGE it much? Nope.

    I'm STILL missing something... Unless, you wingers are grasping at straws cause your candidate is going down. That could be it...

    excon
  • Sep 28, 2012, 09:58 AM
    speechlesstx
    The only reason you're missing anything is you aren't paying attention. Or more likely, just don't care that Obama is consistently lying to you.
  • Sep 28, 2012, 10:34 PM
    talaniman
    As I remember it 911 was tied to Saddam, so maybe we better chill until the real facts are found out.

    Bet you guys would just love the Prez to stop campaigning and hunt for the terrorist himself. That didn't work out for McCain either.
  • Sep 29, 2012, 03:21 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    As I remember it 911 was tied to Saddam
    You remember wrong ;or perhaps you can find the quote or source where President Bush or anyone in his adm directly made the link that Saddam was behind 9-11.
  • Sep 29, 2012, 03:31 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    You remember wrong ;or perhaps you can find the quote or source where President Bush or anyone in his adm directly made the link that Saddam was behind 9-11.

    The impact of Bush linking 9/11 and Iraq / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com
  • Sep 29, 2012, 03:41 AM
    paraclete
    Hey have you noticed the crisis is over
  • Sep 29, 2012, 03:42 AM
    tomder55
    From the 2nd paragraph of your link... "Bush never pinned blame for the attacks directly on the Iraqi president. "
    I thank you for proving my point.
  • Sep 29, 2012, 03:52 AM
    paraclete
    Hey ! History let's get back to the present
  • Sep 29, 2012, 04:00 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    from the 2nd paragraph of your link... "Bush never pinned blame for the attacks directly on the Iraqi president. "

    But there's more.
    Quote:

    Yet the White House appears to be encouraging this false impression, as it seeks to maintain American support for a possible war against Iraq and demonstrate seriousness of purpose to Hussein's regime.
  • Sep 29, 2012, 04:01 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    The only reason you're missing anything is you aren't paying attention. Or more likely, just don't care that Obama is consistently lying to you.

    BenghaziGate... the President and Evita sent Ambassador Rice on all the major network Sunday shows to advance the lie that the attack on Ambassador Stevens was directly linked to a YouTube video days after they knew the truth. That lie was reinforced by daily press briefings by White House press secretary Jay Carney.(Baghdad Bob).

    The President continues to cling to that fiction in interviews and speeches like his address to the UN.
    To further bolster their false narrative they chillingly unleashed the Justice Dept on the video maker and arrested him on some minor inconsequential parol violation,sending the message to the world that the US will come down hard legally on anyone who dare speak out against Islam. It is interesting that they would concentrate on that video ,and not on one created by AQ leader
    Ayman al-Zawahri calling on jihadists to avenge the death of his 2nd in command , Yahya al-Libi(ie from Libya), killed in a U.S. drone attack.

    They are covering up the now known fact that there was plenty of indication that the Ambassador was personally at risk .Still they didn't even bother to take the precautions of beefing up US security in the region on the anniverary of 9-11 . This after they knew that the counsellate in Benghazi had previously been attacked by bomb in June. Perhaps if he had attended some of the daily national security briefings he would know these basic facts.
  • Sep 29, 2012, 05:11 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The President continues to cling to that fiction in interviews and speeches like his address to the UN.

    Hello again, tom:

    I've been asking what the fuss is all about, but nobody here can tell me.. I was watching Hannity last night and HE told me...

    It was like I thought... Obama made a speech in Cairo, and you right wingers THOUGHT he solved the Middle East forever.. When you found out he DIDN'T, it was PROOF that his foreign policy is in shambles and he should be replaced by Mitt Romney...

    Boy, you guys are really unhappy that Romney is going to LOSE, aren't you?

    excon
  • Sep 29, 2012, 06:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:

    I've been asking what the fuss is all about, but nobody here can tell me.. I was watching Hannity last night and HE told me...

    It was like I thought... Obama made a speech in Cairo, and you right wingers THOUGHT he solved the Middle East forever.. When you found out he DIDN'T, it was PROOF that his foreign policy is in shambles and he should be replaced by Mitt Romney...

    Boy, you guys are really unhappy that Romney is
    gonna LOSE, aren't you?

    excon

    You've learned the Obama way well my son. No matter what, keep advancing the false narrative.
  • Sep 29, 2012, 06:20 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    You've learned the Obama way well my son. No matter what, keep advancing the false narrative.

    Hello again, Steve:

    Well, what's the RIGHT narrative? That the Middle East is in shambles and that Obama didn't stop it? Duh!

    excon

    PS> (edited) Look, Steve. I'm up on world affairs. I want to know who's screwing it up. But, to find out that the Middle East is a dangerous place, and that they want to kill us, ISN'T surprising. That they got away with another attack, is NOT surprising... That Obama was SLOW to grasp it, is NOT surprising... That you think there's some sort of conspiracy and/or coverup in the White House over it, is NOT surprising...

    But, that you think it means the end of the world is pretty surprising...
  • Sep 29, 2012, 07:01 AM
    tomder55
    No not the end of the world... just the end of the Obama Presidency and his phoney narrative that he ended the war on terrorism by wacking OBL and subverting the victory in Iraq.
  • Sep 29, 2012, 07:23 AM
    excon
    Hello tom:

    I can SMELL the desperation on you. It don't smell good.

    excon
  • Sep 29, 2012, 01:05 PM
    talaniman
    Obama can screw up until the cows come home, NOBODY thinks Mitt can do better. Like Grover said he won't be making policy just signing where they tell him. Have you forgotten what he told the donors at his 47% lunch? There is nothing he can do about the situation in the rest of the world.

    Just curious. What will you guys do if Mitt loses?
  • Sep 30, 2012, 03:33 AM
    tomder55
    Washington Post details the incompetence of the security arrangement in Benghazi.
    In Libya, security was lax before attack that killed U.S. ambassador, officials say - The Washington Post
    Quote:

    But as Stevens met with Benghazi civic leaders, U.S. officials appear to have underestimated the threat facing both the ambassador and other Americans. They had not reinforced the U.S. diplomatic outpost there to meet strict safety standards for government buildings overseas. Nor had they posted a U.S. Marine detachment, as at other diplomatic sites in high-threat regions.

  • Sep 30, 2012, 03:34 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Just curious. What will you guys do if Mitt loses?
    Haven't considered that possibility .
  • Sep 30, 2012, 04:11 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Haven't considered that possibility .

    http://www.u-tax.co.uk/blog/image.ax...ad-in-sand.jpg

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