So everybody else is full of BS except you? Or just conservatives? Or just the Tea party?
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So everybody else is full of BS except you? Or just conservatives? Or just the Tea party?
I never implied anything close to that. Clete's answer and the faux outrage over mythical racist code words definitely qualify.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
That was my point, I don't know where you are going with your responses. Isn't part of expressing your opinion, getting others to understand your point of view?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Here you go again, just dismissing it with some line about the usual liberal.. blah blah.
That is exactly the type of response given when you have nothing real to say.
That being said, I am not a "liberal" or a racist for that matter. So, whatever point you are trying to make is lost on me. But then, you seem very straight-lined when it comes to party behavior. Things aren't so black in white. (Hey, that's a pun! Ha.)
Give it some thought... it will come to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
LOL, being from Texas, the southwest you should know all the code words of the racists. Maybe you are younger than I thought or live in isolation, but trust me, not only do they exist but are still prevalent.
Ever visit Mississippi, or Alabama? You cannot just dismiss the experiences of others because you don't see it. But I believe in people and think the are better than there hates and prejudices, but racism is a much used tool for elections from Nixon's southern strategy, to Reagan's welfare queens in pink cadillacs to Willie Horten by the first Bush.
Yes there are code words and dog whistles in 2012 whether you care to believe it or not!
Go ahead, explain it to us.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I don't know why it is so hard to understand . Every one of the words/phrases has been linked by Dems or their flunkies at MSNBC to racism branding every Conservate /Republic/Tea Party member .Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Maybe it is deflection .After all yesterday (before they made their stunning reversal today on the Convention floor for the sake salvaging their relation with their Jewish and "bitter clinger "constituency),we learned that the progressive Democrats are anti-semitic atheists .
Or maybe they are deflecting their own inherent racism .After all ;they got a clown they consider an icon speaking in prime time tonight who only 4 years ago said to Teddy Kennedy that in the good ole days " Obama would be carrying our bags " . They have VP who said "You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.... I'm not joking."
Doing a little head shaking there Tom
It's quite simple, I wanted clete's reaction before proceeding. It's a thread, it typically continues and being my thread I feel quite comfortable getting there how I want to get there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magpie95
I have my methods.Quote:
Isn't part of expressing your opinion, getting others to understand your point of view?
As opposed to offering a psychological diagnosis of someone you know nothing about? I was on subject with clete and liberals do as exactly as I said on liberal blogs.Quote:
Here you go again, just dismissing it with some line about the usual liberal.. blah blah.That is exactly the type of response given when you have nothing real to say.
Ok, I didn't say you were - I pointed out a fact.Quote:
That being said, I am not a "liberal" or a racist for that matter.
As I said, you know nothing about me... and it's obvious. You are as wrong about me as all those libs and media types are about Republicans being racist. And that's my point.Quote:
So, whatever point you are trying to make is lost on me. But then, you seem very straight-lined when it comes to party behavior. Things aren't so black in white. (Hey, that's a pun! Ha.)
Dude, I live in a Hispanic neighborhood, I am the minority. Amarillo is anything but isolated and we're quite diverse. No one said racism doesn't exist but we've had that talk, you use that straw man repeatedly and buy into this dog whistle crap to avoid a real discussion and perpetuate the problem. You don't want solve racism.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
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Originally Posted by smoothy
Still waiting. I see you're busy on the site answering questions about women pregnancies, surely you can answer this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I would agree with that.
The way you have worded the question you can't lose.
Tut
He's purposely avoiding answering. Not surprising.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
You can't solve racism Speech all you can do is build tolerance. As a fellow I knew once said, the longer you are with him the whiter he becomes, so time takes away the problem. I can look from afar because my society doesn't have the same racial problems yours does, it has a whole different set
I find that hard to believe after you called Asian laborers 'coolies ' .Quote:
I can look from afar because my society doesn't have the same racial problems yours does, it has a whole different set
Metaphor Tom so you got the picture. As I said we have a different set of experiences and if you like racist views but no one is sweeping them under the carpet and hiding behind racial descriptions attached to a national ephelet. Race is rarely referred to here in any form, it doesn't have to be, we immediately understand where a person comes from from their appearance and their name, and we are all Australians until proven otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
So from our perspective you have an interesting set of dog whistles, and while we are there how is it you don't think minimum should apply to everyone, another piece of imbedded racism?
So you acknowledge racism exists but deny it has a language that racists talk to each other about?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics
Have you forgotten the ad by Harold Fords opponent in the 2010 senate ad?Quote:
You start in 1954 by saying, "N*****, n*****, n*****." By 1968, you can't say "n*****" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "N*****, n*****."[9][10]
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/26/us...tennessee.html
Sorry my friend, but your straw man refrain is getting to be a symbol of when you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
Yeah, like the "Let america be america" line from Romney that happened to be a KKK slogan?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Hear! Hear! About the straw man refrain. Over it.
Yeah under Romney the KKK might rise againQuote:
Originally Posted by Magpie95
Too late!
Russell Pearce - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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In October 2006, Pearce included the text of an article by National Alliance, a white separatist group, in an email to a group of supporters. The article, titled "Who Rules America"[23] contained allegations of Jewish control of the media and of multiculturalism being a Jewish anti-White conspiracy, as well as Holocaust denialism.[24] He quickly apologized to supporters in an email, stating: "Ugly the words contained in it really are. They are not mine and I disavow them completely. Worse still, the website links to a group whose politics are the ugliest imaginable."[24] Pearce told reporters he did not agree with the antisemitic and racist statements in the article, and that he had copied it from an email forwarded to him by someone else after "the title and the first paragraphs about media bias appealed to him".[24]
Pearce was also criticized for his association with white supremacist J. T. Ready.[25] Pearce endorsed Ready for Mesa City Council in 2006[26] and appeared with him at several rallies. In 2004 Pearce was photographed attending Ready's baptism into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). Church documents reveal that Pearce ordained Ready into the LDS priesthood.[27] Pearce has since claimed he was unaware of Ready's neo-Nazi affiliations at the time he made the endorsement.[28]
Sorry Tal must be a local thung I don't get the connection
The KKK has thrown off their hoods and become part of the mainstream politics and in the case of Mr. Pierce he has risen to the ranks of higher office in his state of Arizona and become a legitimate racist who can pass laws.
He did get recalled though by the citizens in his district, but his law is still on the books. SB1070. (Papers please).
SB 1070 ruling: Judge paves way for immigration-status checks
No sir, Biden's use of "clean" and "articulate" was blatantly racist. I'm sure Sen. Byrd used a lot of dog whistles in his day. But I find it hard to picture Bush using code with Condi as his closest advisor but then again, she isn't authentic.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
It's a hint that you need a new line, I have most of yours memorized.Quote:
Sorry my friend, but your straw man refrain is getting to be a symbol of when you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
So which is it, do racist code exist?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Byrd and Biden aren't Republicans. Figure it out if you can.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
So republican don't use racist code words but democrats do?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Yes and its been a effective election tool for the damn near 50 years I have been watching TV. Then they were calling freedom marchers for equality trouble makers and used fire hoses and dogs to prevent them from marching.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Today's new term is welfare, meaning poor minorities stealing the money from hardworking white people. But no mention of rich guys stealing money from poor people.
My fellow Texan often remarks that the poor have no more to steal, but they can always cut even more from the safety net, Medicare, and Medicaid, and Mitt Ryan has promised to do just that, to pay for his rich guy raises? Or is it Paul Romney? Whatever, but whatever they can't cut and steal they can always charge it to the deficit, and yes, he has promised that too!
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-215_162-...g-welfare-ads/
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To win the presidency, Romney will need to consolidate nearly all of the undecided, predominantly white working class voters with reservations about Obama's performance. The problem is that the Obama campaign has long possessed a strategy to block Romney's path to victory: Depict Romney as an out-of-touch plutocrat bent on annihilating the middle class. In contrast, Team Romney hasn't really crafted a specific messaging strategy built to appeal to particular demographic groups.
As we are seeing, most right wing republicans don't care about facts. Hmmmmm!!!! Does that explain why any view other than their own is either a straw argument, or a zip damn lie??Quote:
But the ads alleging that Obama dismantled the welfare work requirement are different -- and potentially more effective. For one, they're targeted to appeal directly to white working class voters, as many others have pointed out. And unlike other attacks on Obama, the welfare advertisement introduces new information that voters probably didn't know -- which can be more effective than other ads that simply stress facts that voters already internalized. (Never mind that this information is new because it isn't true.)
Are we seeing a pattern here??
Dude, we're for empowering people to become independent. That's FREEDOM.
You are for expanding the dependent class. That's BONDAGE.
That's bull, I am for reigning in and regulating and taxing fairly the very rich who have extracted trillions from the economy, and tax payers. And speaking out against right wing idealogs who favor theocracy and oligarchy.
And call that freedom! That's BS!!
Dude, repeating your mantra over and over doesn't make it any more true. Truth is, blacks aren't faring too well under Obama. Black unemployment is at depression era levels. Obama's Buffet tax isn't going to fix that.
So we should vote for Mitt? Come on guy, how about hiring teachers and fire fighters and police build some schools and bridges and fix a few roads. And we all fare better. . 05% tax on incomes over $350,000, project paid for.
Dude, I just took a picture of a fancy new roadside rest area in West Memphis, AR being built by stimulus funds... right after crossing the roughest stretch of I-40 on our trip. They should have fixed the road. We can pee at the truck stop across the road or the Arkansas Welcome Center less than 5 miles away.
Priorities, not pork.
And who made the decision to build the rest stop and not fix the road?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
But here's the rub they ain't going to raise no taxesQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I give up, who?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Your state leaders perhaps? They were given, in good faith, the stimulus money with no parameters.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
And that invalidates my point?
Where were you when the decision was made on how to spend the money?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
How do you know they haven't planned to improve the roads? Being in a flood plain its always being worked on to my memory. That was years before the stimilus was even discussed.
I don't live in Arkansas. So how is my point not valid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
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