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  • Aug 17, 2012, 09:05 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    The question is do you know he didn't?

    All the more reason he should show us the real deal. If he wants to be in control of my money, I want to know how he handles his own.
  • Aug 17, 2012, 09:15 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    All the more reason he should show us the real deal. If he wants to be in control of my money, I want to know how he handles his own.

    Then the rumor-monger should do likewise. Next I expect you'll ask Romney when he stopped beating his wife.
  • Aug 17, 2012, 09:23 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Why do you protect him when there's a LONG list of real right wing dudes who want him to release his taxes too?? I mean, if this were only the loony left... But, it AIN'T.

    You disavow the birther crap, but did you ever call for Obama to release his Harvard records, or his passport, or did you ever wonder WHY Obama is spending MILLIONS to keep his records SEALED??

    It IS right wing stuff, after all... I'm not going to go back and look.

    excon
  • Aug 17, 2012, 09:36 AM
    speechlesstx
    Protect? I'm not protecting, I just don't care. If Romney is a tax cheat then let the IRS pursue it, that's their job. You guys all about distraction. Obama says he wants to have “important policy debate” but that seems to amount to discussing Romney's dog.

    Carney Asked How Citing Romney Dog Is Part Of Lifting Dialogue

  • Aug 17, 2012, 09:46 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Democrats won't say BankofAmerica Center? Wait. What?

    excon
  • Aug 17, 2012, 09:58 AM
    speechlesstx
    What, you didn't know? They first called it "Panther Stadium" but didn't get away with that, then they just went to "the stadium." So why won't they call it "Bank of America Stadium?" What are they trying to hide?
  • Aug 17, 2012, 11:11 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    The question is do you know he didn't?

    "trust but verify" - Ronald Reagan.
  • Aug 17, 2012, 11:43 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    "trust but verify" - Ronald Reagan.

    You keep quoting that as if it's relevant.
  • Aug 17, 2012, 12:15 PM
    talaniman
    "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice....................you ain't gonna fool me twice!" - GWB

    That should be relevant.
  • Aug 17, 2012, 01:42 PM
    speechlesstx
    Irrelevant and inaccurate.

    Quote:

    There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — — shame on you. Fool me — — You can't get fooled again. -GWB
  • Aug 17, 2012, 02:10 PM
    talaniman
    Makes more sense my way, but that was George.
  • Aug 17, 2012, 02:12 PM
    speechlesstx
    It was funnier George's way.
  • Aug 17, 2012, 02:37 PM
    talaniman
    Can't argue that point.
  • Aug 19, 2012, 10:13 AM
    talaniman
    Just thought we needed more facts for the debate.

    HAHAHA,Ooops! - Paul Ryan's SUPPORT For The STIMULUS - Democratic Underground

    More right wing hypocrisy, or a hidden agenda. I say BOTH!!
  • Aug 19, 2012, 06:02 PM
    paraclete
    Just flip floppin along
  • Aug 20, 2012, 03:34 PM
    talaniman
    Hey where are all those righties defending their golden boy?? Have they run out of rocks?
  • Aug 21, 2012, 06:23 AM
    speechlesstx
    How many threads do you want to discuss this on, all of them?
  • Aug 21, 2012, 06:31 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    How many threads do you want to discuss this on, all of them?

    It's a very popular topic all over the internet and other medium. People seem to be shocked by this person.
  • Aug 21, 2012, 08:25 AM
    speechlesstx
    You just can't resist the fallacies can you, that was an obvious appeal to emotion. The only reason anyone MIGHT be "shocked" by Ryan is because of fear mongering from the left.
  • Aug 21, 2012, 08:49 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    You just can't resist the fallacies can you, that was an obvious appeal to emotion. The only reason anyone MIGHT be "shocked" by Ryan is because of fear mongering from the left.

    Actually it has nothing to do with emotion but straight up facts: Google Trends

    It is part of the current most-searched-topics on Google in the US. It has just recently trended down.

    Here's a partial list of the articles:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=todd...=m&safe=active
  • Aug 21, 2012, 09:27 AM
    speechlesstx
    Dude, we're discussing Paul Ryan, not Todd Akin. Akin's an idiot.
  • Aug 21, 2012, 09:31 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    How many threads do you want to discuss this on, all of them?

    They are all related and paint a true picture of what you guys really stand for. Its my duty to connect the dots, even the ones you don't want connected. You can't step to the forefront and be the leader of the free world by just blaming the other guy without tying failure to the agenda of the republicans.

    I mean the rich guy is running on a platform that he isn't rich enough, and needs more welfare for him and his so called job creators.

    How does he pay for it? His plan is on line,read it for yourself and answer the question. He chose a running mate who was part of the down fall of the economy and has voted to stop the economy and ruin the credit rating of the country.

    The government is not a CHURCH, and its NOT a business.

    Its job is not to promote GOD or cater to those who do, nor is it its job to promote corporate welfare for the rich and already rich. Its JOB is to promote the general welfare of ALL its people.

    You want a weak government that lets churches and corporation write the laws we live under, I DON'T!!

    So learn the difference between straw and brick before you buy the house next to a cliff. It may be a great view, but also a dangerous one.
  • Aug 21, 2012, 10:59 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    They are all related and paint a true picture of what you guys really stand for. Its my duty to connect the dots, even the ones you don't want connected. You can't step to the forefront and be the leader of the free world by just blaming the other guy without tying failure to the agenda of the republicans.

    I mean the rich guy is running on a platform that he isn't rich enough, and needs more welfare for him and his so called job creators.

    How does he pay for it? His plan is on line,read it for yourself and answer the question. He chose a running mate who was part of the down fall of the economy and has voted to stop the economy and ruin the credit rating of the country.

    The government is not a CHURCH, and its NOT a business.

    Its job is not to promote GOD or cater to those who do, nor is it its job to promote corporate welfare for the rich and already rich. Its JOB is to promote the general welfare of ALL its people.

    You want a weak government that lets churches and corporation write the laws we live under, I DON"T!!!

    So learn the difference between straw and brick before you buy the house next to a cliff. It may be a great view, but also a dangerous one.

    Excellent post sir. I applaud you.
  • Aug 21, 2012, 02:50 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    They are all related and paint a true picture of what you guys really stand for. Its my duty to connect the dots, even the ones you don't want connected. You can't step to the forefront and be the leader of the free world by just blaming the other guy without tying failure to the agenda of the republicans.

    That would be fine if you didn't fabricate the dots you're connecting.
  • Aug 21, 2012, 03:44 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    You can't step to the forefront and be the leader of the free world by just blaming the other guy without tying failure to the agenda of the republicans.

    and yet that has been the single governing policy of the Obots for 3 1/2 years.
    Quote:

    The government is not a CHURCH,
    and yet the liberals pray at it's altar .
  • Aug 21, 2012, 04:04 PM
    paraclete
    Sour grapes
  • Aug 21, 2012, 05:35 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    and yet the liberals pray at it's altar .

    That doesn't even mean anything.
  • Aug 21, 2012, 06:54 PM
    excon
    Hello again,

    I'm confused... The Republican party PLATFORM has a plank that says NO abortion exception for rape or incest...

    Then Reince Priebus said, "This is the platform of the Republican Party; it's not the platform of Mitt Romney."

    How is that, exactly??

    excon
  • Aug 21, 2012, 07:09 PM
    tomder55
    The platform has been voted on yet . Most times the party platform is finalized in the convention.In the Republican's case ;it will be a Monday vote .

    It is also not unusual for the party standard bearer to not agree to many planks of the platform . Priebus is correct in saying it is the party's platform and not necessarily the candidates.
    Quote:

    But Mr. Romney would hardly be the first Republican nominee at odds with his party's more absolute opposition to abortion. Just four years ago, the Republican Party adopted a platform with a similar plank seeking an unconditional ban on abortion, even though its nominee, Senator John McCain of Arizona, had urged the party in the past to allow certain exceptions.
    G.O.P. Approves Strict Anti-abortion Language in Party Platform - NYTimes.com

    Simularily ;in 2008 ,the Dems made concessions in their platform to appease the Clintonistas .
    Compromise Platform Draft Goes to Democratic Convention - NYTimes.com
  • Aug 21, 2012, 07:46 PM
    paraclete
    What is the point of having a party platform if the candidates are not signed on to it?
  • Aug 22, 2012, 03:48 AM
    tomder55
    They will . But it will be the party platform ;and not something Romney dictates . I imagine there will be some kind of floor fight Monday with the Ronulans trying to introduce some of their planks.
  • Aug 22, 2012, 11:54 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    They will . But it will be the party platform ;and not something Romney dictates . I imagine there will be some kind of floor fight Monday with the Ronulans trying to introduce some of their planks.

    That's funny! Ronulans! So now we have the romulans and the ronulans working together, just like romulus and rhemus, but remember Rome wasn't built in a day
  • Aug 23, 2012, 02:49 AM
    tomder55
    It always happens this way. In 2008 the Dem platform supported Gay marriage and their candidate didn't
  • Aug 23, 2012, 11:24 AM
    talaniman
    Ryan supports his party platform already! The battle is half won on the right.

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