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  • Apr 16, 2012, 09:05 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:

    So, go DEMONSTRATE your anger at the lawmakers and/or the Supreme Court. Why punish the people who are at the EFFECT of the law?? Why NOT go after the males who knocked them up? Why NOT go after the makes who APPROVED of their women going to the abortion clinic???

    excon

    I don't go after women period. In fact, I tell every single woman I know to remember one rule, "all men are scum." I also go hard after the biggest liar of them all, Planned Parenthood, that teaches these young scum how to prey on young women - or haven't you noticed?
  • Apr 16, 2012, 09:08 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    In fact, I tell every single woman I know to remember one rule, "all men are scum."

    Funny, I'm raising my daughter very differently. You have a very sad view on life.
  • Apr 16, 2012, 09:10 AM
    talaniman
    If you have the gaul to make force people into YOUR choices, and YOUR way of thinking about defending the innocent babies, then take responsibility for raising them, feeding them, and educating them.

    Free contraceptives is a better choice than banning abortions, then walking away when the real responsibility starts. And it gauls me even more when a rich female defends her choices, and dismisses everyone else's.

    But you wingers thinks its okay to tell some one else what to do, and then walk away when they need help doing it. That's a lot of gaul!
  • Apr 16, 2012, 09:14 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Planned Parenthood, that teaches these young scum how to prey on young women - or haven't you noticed?

    Hello again, Steve:

    Frankly, I haven't noticed.. So, you've got some training films or literature you want to share with us? I'd really be interested.

    I thought Planned Parenthood just provided medical services to poor women. But, they TEACH scum how to get laid?? Wow. Show me that.

    But, uhhh, you don't think young "scum" want to just NATURALLY get laid? They need teaching??

    excon
  • Apr 16, 2012, 09:40 AM
    tomder55
    Gual ? Typical liberal logic . Personal choices paid for by someone else.
  • Apr 16, 2012, 10:02 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Frankly, I haven't noticed.. So, you've got some training films or literature you want to share with us?? I'd really be interested.

    I thought Planned Parenthood just provided medical services to poor women. But, they TEACH scum how to get laid??? Wow. Show me that.

    But, uhhh, you don't think young "scum" wanna just NATURALLY get laid?? They need teaching???

    Dude, you can search my history for all the things I've said on the subject of Planned Parenthood not only actively promoting sexual activity among children, but teaching them the techniques.

    P.S. For NK's benefit, it was you who said "Why NOT go after the males who knocked them up?" The girls understand what I mean, and I will do my damnedest to protect the women in my life from scum who use them and abuse them and leave others to help clean up the mess they've left behind.
  • Apr 16, 2012, 10:06 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    If you have the gaul to make force people into YOUR choices, and YOUR way of thinking about defending the innocent babies, then take responsibility for raising them, feeding them, and educating them.

    Free contraceptives is a better choice than banning abortions, then walking away when the real responsibility starts. And it gauls me even more when a rich female defends her choices, and dismisses everyone elses.

    But you wingers thinks its okay to tell some one else what to do, and then walk away when they need help doing it. Thats a lot of gaul!!

    And telling me I have to pay for someone else's contraception, or that my ministry is no longer a religious activity requires no "gaul?"
  • Apr 16, 2012, 10:55 AM
    talaniman
    Perfect example of YOUR WAY,OR NO WAY! Don't hide behind your religion, and its not your money, its our money that we all benefit from, even the poor right wing women, who need free female reproductive services. Hell, woman already make less than mean, and have higher insurance premiums. But that's okay with right wing guys protecting the young and innocent from the scum who would exploit them.

    Just curious where young poor females go for cancer screening?

    Damn, I didn't make a week of thinking like a righty. I failed my mission, it was harder than I thought!
  • Apr 16, 2012, 11:22 AM
    tomder55
    Typical liberal.. taking people's money and calling it "our money".
  • Apr 16, 2012, 11:49 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Perfect example of YOUR WAY,OR NO WAY! Don't hide behind your religion,

    I don't force my religion on anyone or hide behind it, I just know the facts.

    Quote:

    and its not your money, its our money that we all benefit from, even the poor right wing women, who need free female reproductive services
    What I'm referring to is the Catholic church's money, not yours.

    Quote:

    Hell, woman already make less than mean, and have higher insurance premiums.
    I assume you mean less than "men," and I am firm believer that a women should get equal pay or more for the same job. Heck, if I owned the company I work for I'd make a particular single women in our office the highest paid employee in the company.

    Quote:

    But that's okay with right wing guys protecting the young and innocent from the scum who would exploit them.
    Tal, the women in my life have no doubt that I have their back, and because of that they have mine, too. And yes, they do come to me for advice and to talk because they know I respect and care for them. You can't get that in a Planned Parenthood clinic.

    Quote:

    Just curious where young poor females go for cancer screening?
    Just curious why you still think conservatives don't care for the poor. I'd much rather pay for cancer screenings for a poor, young woman than bail some drug dealer out of jail.

    Quote:

    Damn, I didn't make a week of thinking like a righty. I failed my mission, it was harder than I thought!
    It's because we actually think, we don't echo.
  • Apr 16, 2012, 01:34 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Then you counter that by telling women the TRUTH. To do anything OTHER than that, belies your respect for women.

    Look. We STOPPED millions of people from smoking by telling them the TRUTH. We didn't enforce a waiting period before you could buy smokes. We didn't stick something down their throats to SHOW them the damage. We simply TOLD them the truth, and it worked.

    IF you respect women, like you SAY you do, that would the approach you'd take.

    excon

    Im trying to wrap my head around the smoking vs abortion argument your making. Lets do some side by side. Smoking - must be 18 years old or greater to purchase said product. Abortion - any age can get an abortion no parental consent needed. Smoking- Has been banned in the workplace in many states as well as bars and eateries. Abortion - Has been taught in schools as a form of birth control.

    Somehow I don't see how one relates to the other. The smoking issue was by force not just by pure education. Are you saying that is how you want abortion to be now ?
  • Apr 16, 2012, 02:23 PM
    speechlesstx
    Allow me to guess. I think what he's saying is if the anti-baby crowd is lying to women about the child inside their womb as I submit, I should counter that by telling them the truth about it instead of mandating an ultrasound. It seems to have worked for smoking he thinks so it should work for abortion.

    Of course if it worked for smoking ten why is the Obama administration trying to put some nasty graphic images on cigarette packs? We should apparently be forced to view a picture of a guy exhaling smoke through a hole in his throat but a woman considering an abortion shouldn't have to see an image her child.
  • Apr 16, 2012, 02:27 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    Abortion - Has been taught in schools as a form of birth control.

    Really? Who does this and what is wrong with your education system that this is part of the curriculum??
  • Apr 16, 2012, 02:29 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    the anti-baby crowd

    The use of terms like these is why discussions barely leave the emotional stages.
  • Apr 16, 2012, 02:53 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    The use of terms like these is why discussions barely leave the emotional stages.

    When you take on the left and their "anti-choice," "war on women," "teabagger," "functionally retarded adults" and other pathetic rhetoric I might care what you have to say.
  • Apr 16, 2012, 03:44 PM
    excon
    Hello again,

    So far, I've heard Planned Parenthood TRAINS young boys to defile young girls, and abortion is TAUGHT in public school as a form of birth control...

    If I believed that crap, I'd be for defunding PP and for closing down the public schools, too... But, somehow, I'm thinking it's just not true. I'm willing to be wrong, though. Show me.

    excon
  • Apr 16, 2012, 04:00 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    So far, I've heard Planned Parenthood TRAINS young boys to defile young girls, and abortion is TAUGHT in public school as a form of birth control...

    If I believed that crap, I'd be for defunding PP and for closing down the public schools, too... But, somehow, I'm thinking it's just not true. I'm willing to be wrong, though. Show me.

    excon

    Ok here is a few references to the real world.

    Comprehensive, medically accurate sexuality education covers the wide array of topics that affect sexuality and sexual health. It is grounded in evidence-based, peer-reviewed science. Its goal is to promote health and well-being in a way that is developmentally appropriate. It includes information and communication skills building as well as values exploration. Ideally, sex ed in school is an integrated education process that builds upon itself year after year, is initiated in kindergarten, and is provided through grade 12.




    http://www.plannedparenthood.org/res...tion-23516.htm


    http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/arc...s-on-the-rise/
  • Apr 16, 2012, 04:15 PM
    tomder55
    I think PP is the perfect manifestation of it's founder's Malthusian ,racist ,eugenicist vision.
  • Apr 16, 2012, 04:26 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    Ok here is a few references to the real world.

    Comprehensive, medically accurate sexuality education covers the wide array of topics that affect sexuality and sexual health. It is grounded in evidence-based, peer-reviewed science. Its goal is to promote health and well-being in a way that is developmentally appropriate. It includes information and communication skills building as well as values exploration. Ideally, sex ed in school is an integrated education process that builds upon itself year after year, is initiated in kindergarten, and is provided through grade 12.




    Implementing Sex Education

    Unfortunately for you none of that supports your assertion. I definitely don't agree with the education starting in kindergarten though.
  • Apr 16, 2012, 04:27 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    When you take on the left and their "anti-choice," "war on women," "teabagger," "functionally retarded adults" and other pathetic rhetoric I might care what you have to say.

    You aim for the lowest common denominator? Achievement unlocked!
  • Apr 17, 2012, 06:54 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You aim for the lowest common denominator? Achievement unlocked!

    No sir, I don't take the left's bullsh*t lying down.
  • Apr 17, 2012, 07:16 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    So far, I've heard Planned Parenthood TRAINS young boys to defile young girls, and abortion is TAUGHT in public school as a form of birth control...

    I searched for my own posts about what they used to call Teenwire and interestingly PP seems to have scrubbed their site. Guess they felt like they had to hide some stuff from the public's view.
  • Apr 17, 2012, 07:40 AM
    talaniman
    Info for Teens - Planned Parenthood

    Is this what you were looking for? Most parents don't talk to their kids. Just visit the Family, and People/Teens site, and see what I mean. Nothing to do with ideology, just a lack of information, and guidance.

    And to promote a religion, any religion, not just yours, into a policy position above an ordinary citizen of any religion, is ludicrist. Your ultra sound position says you know better than a doctor what a patient needs or how to proceed with care, and in truth these are arguments the TParty screamed about, death panels, and buearacrats, remember? Now it's the right wing making sure that happens. UNREAL!

    And after many thousands of years I am sure woman know what's going on in there womb, and no matter what you think of it, It's their WOMB, and you are out of bounds telling them how to deal with it, especially making laws that gives them no choice but yours.

    The funny part is its okay to make a fat cat fatter with OUR money, but not okay to PREVENT abortions with contraceptives, or make jobs by building schools and bridges, and roads. You would rather build prisons, deny education, and keep a cycle of poverty going and expanding.

    Yeah you righties have all the facts, at least the ones you like.
  • Apr 17, 2012, 07:45 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Is this what you were looking for?

    Hello tal:

    That can't be it... I read it.. I didn't see where they're TRAINING young boys to take advantage of young girls... THAT must be the one they're HIDING...

    Bwa, ha ha ha.

    excon
  • Apr 17, 2012, 07:45 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Info for Teens - Planned Parenthood

    Is this what you were looking for?

    No sir, I was looking for specific info that I've posted about before which is no longer there, such as that from my now corrected link above.
  • Apr 17, 2012, 07:48 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello tal:

    That can't be it... I read it.. I didn't see where they're TRAINING young boys to take advantage of young girls... THAT must be the one they're HIDING...

    Bwa, ha ha ha.

    It's not there any more ex, doesn't mean they've changed their ways, they've just gone back to masking them. You going to believe them or me?
  • Apr 17, 2012, 08:10 AM
    tomder55
    We already know they are willing to accept donations earmarked to abort black babies.


    Oh yeah about hooking kids on sex
    http://conservativebyte.com/2012/02/...s-kids-on-sex/
  • Apr 17, 2012, 08:36 AM
    speechlesstx
    And don't forget looking the other way while providing abortions for the victims of kidnappers and child molesters.
  • Apr 17, 2012, 08:45 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post

    Nice opinion article totally devoid of facts and data. Can you point us to a school(s) that openly welcomes this education for their children?
  • Apr 17, 2012, 08:52 AM
    tomder55
    Condoms for First Graders? Mass. Elementary School Under Fire - HealthPop - CBS News
  • Apr 17, 2012, 08:53 AM
    talaniman
    Are you kidding? Not withstanding this right wing propaganda is from 2002/2007, are you saying victims of crime have to have the perps babies??
  • Apr 17, 2012, 09:01 AM
    NeedKarma
    Disgusting indeed but it has nothing to do with Planned Parenthood, just a severely misguided school.
  • Apr 17, 2012, 09:05 AM
    talaniman
    Provincetown school officials refine condom policy | CapeCodOnline.com

    Quote:

    Singer said yesterday that the wording of the new policy needs to be clarified to ensure the community understands that young elementary school students are not going to be provided condoms at school.

    "A six-year-old wouldn't know that word," she said of condoms. "The policy is aimed at sexually active people."
    Just to clarify.
  • Apr 17, 2012, 09:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Are you kidding? Not withstanding this right wing propaganda is from 2002/2007, are you saying victims of crime have to have the perps babies???

    Are you saying Planned Parenthood has no obligation to obey the law? Are you saying it's more important to protect the abuser than the child?

    One girl was 15 and kept under a staircase when not being raped while her mother frantically searched for her. One girl was 13 and raped by her soccer coach. One was raped by her father. Why would you turn away while predators go free?
  • Apr 17, 2012, 09:19 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Why would you turn away while predators go free?

    Where does Tal say this?
  • Apr 17, 2012, 09:25 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Where does Tal say this?

    It's called a question, generally signified by a question mark, genius.
  • Apr 17, 2012, 09:49 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    It's called a question, generally signified by a question mark, genius.

    Nice social skills. :D
  • Apr 17, 2012, 09:50 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Are you saying Planned Parenthood has no obligation to obey the law? Are you saying it's more important to protect the abuser than the child?

    One girl was 15 and kept under a staircase when not being raped while her mother frantically searched for her. One girl was 13 and raped by her soccer coach. One was raped by her father. Why would you turn away while predators go free?

    Why would you force them to have these children? While we agree that they should be protected by the law, they also must be guided to the proper care as VICTIMS. Making them have the babies of the perps doesn't do that.

    The first priority is to protect the child, and that's not the priority of the law.
  • Apr 17, 2012, 10:10 AM
    speechlesstx
    Tal, where are your priorities? You're worried about whether the victim has a baby above protecting them from predators? Really?

    The Predators took them in for the abortion! What are you not getting here?
  • Apr 17, 2012, 10:12 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Nice social skills. :D

    As tom said feel free not to respond to my posts.

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