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This movement is not only dumb it is becoming unlawfull, down our way they have begun to occupy buildings and guess what; they change the locks and become squatters. This leads to them being forceably ejected and arrested. So I ask you what are you protesting when you occupy an empty building, other than the fact it is raining on your parade?
Maybe that's how they get out of the rain.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
There is another way of getting out of the rain, don't go in the first place
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Originally Posted by smoothy
Hi Smoothy,
Tom said there were anarchists.
Actually what I said was that there are confused anarchists. They don't like the current system and their solution is more of the same.
Hello again:
Yeah... A bunch of stoned confused hippies changed the world once, just like these people will. I don't know why you think they need to wear three piece suits...
excon
The stoned confused hippies are the ones wearing the 3 piece suits today...
We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrongThey decide and the shotgun sings the song
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
The change it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!
I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
For I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?
Yeah!
There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now parting on the rightAnd the beards have all grown longer overnight
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss.. (The Who)
Anarchists are liberals. Even if some of the Liberals might not want them to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUT317
Hi Tom,Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Love it. But history doesn't repeat itself.
Tut
Hello smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Okee doakee.
excon
Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Enough said.
Tut
Heck... its clear the Anarchists aren't much better liked by the left than by the right... but more lefties do like them than righties do. Even if those numbers aren't large.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
They would get lynched if they showed up at a Tea Party event... not welcomed like they are at the OWS "Poo in the Park" event.
Confused anarchists, confused anti-Semites... nice crowd.
Fresh anti-Semitic videos coming out of Occupy Wall Street
Just curious, when is the media going to actually cover the ugly aspects of the bowel movement?
Hello again, Steve:
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/member...697-niggar.jpg
Tea Party rally. Just saying...
excon
That's it? One idiot with a sign? Where'd you find that one?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
Oh, I got more:
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/member...-anichrist.jpg
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/member...99-racist1.jpg
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/member...98-facist2.jpg
There's DOZENS to choose from.. Want more? I ain't busy.
excon
Somebody in the Tea Party can't spell.
Where did you get them? I posted my source.
In any case... the Current administration has decalared by executive order... dissagreeing with the Messiah, Obama is now considered Blashemy. And not the right of a citizen to disgree with the man, the god or his agenda. That's according to another executive order establishing Sharia as the law of the land. Disagreeing with Obama is now a punishible offense.
He will soon declare himself president for life after he cancels future elections also by executive order since he has no use for a House or Senate, much less a country that's not under his total control to do everything he demands.
Hello Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Google, images, tea party racist signs...
tea party racist signs - Google Search
excon
So liberals parade around with them at liberal protests... post them on the internet and pretend they were from a tea party event that none can be attributed to in reality. Because they don't find anything like that which is legitimate.
Then the use the" Well its on the Internet so it must be true".
Like all the Global Warming evidence... and the Pot is the most healthy substance known to man evidence.
All liberal sites... known for dreaming up stuff, like the NAACP and Huffington comPost.
That doesn't exactly confirm those were actual Tea Party people or infiltrators and you know the Tea Party - as well as I do - condemns racism, violence, etc. No one has to call the cops to crack down on Tea Party violence... except for union thugs stirring up crap and that one small incident in Quincy, IL... and no one needs delousing at Tea Party events.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Meanwhile, the occupiers have been rioting in Oakland and Atlanta, blockading businesses, assaulting street vendors in San Diego, $10 million in arson in Fort Collins, Co, squatting on private property, terrorizing business owners and their employees, destroying private property and creating health hazards.
Yeah, they're just alike.
P.S. The media has made plenty of noise about the Tea Party, deserved or not, real or manufactured. The questions is, when will they cover the ugly side of OWS?
Hello again, Steve:
I only showed you the signs because you home in on stuff like that.. I was just trying to say that it's even... I truly don't believe the Tea Party is racist, just like I don't believe the OWS's are anti Semitic.
If I just focused on the tea party's signs, I'd never understand what they're about... But, I don't do that.
You, and your minions, however, focus on the OWS'rs signs, their dirt, their hair, their houses, their sh1t... ANYTHING but the reason they're demonstrating... You're going to miss some stuff if that's all you do. You know, you're not REQUIRED to wear the right wing blinders.. You CAN look beyond them, if you wanted..
excon
Nah, I don't wear blinders. To me character matters, and it does to you too and I know that because of the way you talk about Rush Limbaugh. I have no respect for racists, just as I have no respect for people that have no respect for the things of others. I really don't care what they're pissed about as long as they act that way.
Besides, as I've pointed out more than once this whole thing wa supposed to be about their "one demand." I still don't know what it is. No one knows what they want except their way.
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Originally Posted by smoothy
Come on smoothy, you are making this up.
No one understands how anarchism fits into 21 st century politics.
He's not making it up Tut, the reality is there are anarchists on both sides. Right now OWS and our own home grown variety are showing themselves to be obnoxious on many levels with the objective of disruption, a lunitic fringe of a few individuals
Hi Clete,Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I'm not always happy with this, but yes. If we are talking in broad terms, then I'll go along with it.
If you get two extreme positions then it can attract anarchists on both sides. Right wing anarchist could see government as a threat to freedom while the OWS sees government as a 'handmaiden' to powerful corporations.
Perhaps this goes some way to answering the question of OWS single demand. It is possible to be an anarchist and not know it.
In the end, both the left and right fill some type on minimal requirement ( what ever that is) for being an anarchist when it comes to extreme views.
Are anarchist much better liked by the left than the right? Historically no. The future will be interesting.
Tut
Perhaps they do think that . But when asked they will admit is that they want even more of the same. Oh they couch it in language like "regulation" . But in the end it amounts to a cozy relationship with industry and a command and control government .Quote:
while the OWS sees government as a 'handmaiden' to powerful corporations.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Hi Tom,
Of course. They are smart enough to know where the real power resides. Come to think of it, doesn't everybody? Being a handmaiden has its benefits.
Tut
Now that I can agree with. I haven't worked out what our version of the OWS is protesting about. Perhaps it is the success of our banks in being prudent or just their success. Perhaps it is that that they aren't allowed to occupy anything for more that a few hours, none of those silly freedoms here, but given that uni doesn't recommence until next year we can expect the great unwashed to provide us with an interesting protest seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by TUT317
For all the dirt thrown at the protestors, I think its wise not to assume that just because they haven't physically joined the protest, that they are not as angry about conditions as the ones who are protesting.
Maybe those 600,000 who pulled their money from the big banks didn't shut it down, but they made a statement you can't ignore. A brewing climate of unrest for sure.
Perhaps it would behove the protesters to contemplate what they are going to do after the European crunch hits, they will have something new to protest about as government cuts back because it just doesn't have any money any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
LOL, Clete, we have plenty of money, its just not being circulated because its being hoarded. I dare say that if things get worse here, there will be more people in the streets, not less.
They haven't thought that part through . Meanwhile there are deaths in the encampments now . 3 in the last few days in Oakland, New Orleans, and Burlington, Vt.
The details are unclear but the Oakland one is a shooting ,the Vt. One appears to be a self inflicted one;and the New Orleans one is unclear... the man was found dead in his tent.
Time for the protesters to go home . Thanksgiving is coming and mom and dad have the fatted turkey to cook for the return of the prodigal ones.
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I remember Nara, an Iranian girl killed by the government. I don't remember you saying THEY should go home.. In fact, I think you supported that uprising...
excon
that's right I do support uprisings against the despots in Tehran who murdered Neda Agha-Soltan from the regimes snipers randomly firing into the crowd . Are you comparing that to this ?
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
They're SHADES of the same thing... People want to be free from the yoke of oppression wherever they find it, be it a despot that's holding them down, or an oligarch.
excon
We have one of those despots that wall street had in their pocket sitting in the White house now.
The guy in New Orleans had been dead for 2 days and nobody noticed .
Now they are getting 'Zuccotti Lung' living in the unsanitary encampment in NYC.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/11/ny...cern.html?_r=1Quote:
As the weather turns, the protesters in Zuccotti Park, the nexus of the Occupy Wall Street protests in Lower Manhattan, have been forced to confront a simple truth: packing themselves like sardines inside a public plaza, where cigarettes are shared and a good night’s sleep remains elusive, may not be conducive to good health.
“Pretty much everything here is a good way to get sick,” said Salvatore Cipolla, 23, from Long Island. “It’ll definitely thin the herd.”...
Even some camping in the park have grown concerned in recent weeks with the living quarters. Damp laundry and cardboard signs, left in the rain, have provided fertile ground for mold. Some protesters urinate in bottles, or occasionally a water-cooler jug, to avoid the lines at public restrooms. Food, from orange peels to scrambled eggs, is often discarded outside tents.
“I’m amazed that in a park full of revolutionaries, there are large contingents that can’t throw away their own trash,” said Jordan McCarthy, 22, a member of the protesters’ sanitation team.
I'm amazed he's amazed. I predicted this would happen as they devolve into a 'Lord of the Flies' world. They don't have mommy doing their laundy for them and cleaning up after them so this was predictable.
It's happening in Atlanta too.
http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2011/11/...atlantas-base/
Time to go home. Mommy has some chicken soup on the stove.
Hello again, tom:
I don't know if you noticed, but when you put down the protesters, which is ALL you do, I disregard it... It's so much fluff. It's MEANINGLESS. It's like concentrating on the nice rain, instead of the flood it causes... It's like talking about the clothes Romney wears instead of what he says.. It makes me think you live in a bubble, where ONLY the stuff you want gets in.
Until and unless you speak to the REASONS for the protest, instead of fluff, I'm going to be as meaningless BACK to you, as you are to me... So, as long as you talk about how dirty they are, or how there's some anarchists mixed in with 'em, or they sh1t everywhere, you won't garner MY interest...
excon
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