Ask Me Help Desk

Ask Me Help Desk (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/forum.php)
-   Current Events (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=486)
-   -   Gulf Coast Oil Spill.. (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=473144)

  • Jun 8, 2010, 04:51 PM
    tomder55

    Quote:

    There's a reason why no one takes you seriously here:
    Quote:

    That's why you guys whine on anonymous discussion boards all day, it's all you can accomplish.
    And you come here periodically to ankle bite and hurl insults from the cheap seats without contributing substantially to the discussion . The board does very well without you .
  • Jun 8, 2010, 04:56 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    and you come here periodically to ankle bite and hurl insults from the cheap seats without contributing substantially to the discussion . The board does very well without you .

    I knew I called him NK for some reason, aNKlebiter.
  • Jun 8, 2010, 04:58 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55
    hurl insults

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I knew I called him NK for some reason, aNKlebiter.

    Wow! You're a fast learner, quick study!
  • Jun 8, 2010, 05:01 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Wow!! You're a fast learner, quick study!

    Indeed I am. On the other hand, have you figured out my pocket knife and Q-tip reference yet?
  • Jun 8, 2010, 05:02 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Indeed I am. On the other hand, have you figured out my pocket knife and Q-tip reference yet?

    Are you sayin' I'm stoopid?
  • Jun 8, 2010, 05:04 PM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You think that compares to graduation from Yale, being a lawyer and a senator? really? That's why you guys whine on anonymous discussion boards all day, it's all you can accomplish.

    NK, George W. Bush was the latest Yaley in the White House. Barry went to Columbia.
  • Jun 8, 2010, 05:14 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post
    Barry went to Columbia.

    Yale students = Elis (after Yale benefactor Elihu Yale)

    I'd rather be a Columbia grad. Elis are generally rich kids and snobs.
  • Jun 8, 2010, 05:45 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    and you come here periodically to ankle bite and hurl insults from the cheap seats without contributing substantially to the discussion . The board does very well without you .

    Are you saying that someone shouldn't keep your constant spreading of FUD in check? I hope not. You should not get carte blanche to continue whining about everyone who does share the same particular political affiliation as you.
  • Jun 8, 2010, 05:54 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And how exactly does the fact that we're not Obama disqualify us from stating our opinion? He's a narcissistic community organizer that apologizes for his country when he's not dithering about how to exploit a crisis instead of solving one (or voting present).

    Ok, how do you propose the situation be handled?
  • Jun 8, 2010, 05:59 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I would not talk with the director; I would go straight to the employees.

    But Nobama doesn't do that either. Has he been to the shore? Has he visited the restaurateurs who this affects? Has he talked to the tourists who have lost money on their vacations because they booked them prior to the oil spill?

    He's afraid to get his pretty manicured nails dirty.

    Not like Bush. Bush was in the trenches of New Orleans after Katrina. Would Obama do that? Did Nobama actually visit Nashville during the floods?
  • Jun 8, 2010, 06:06 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Has he been to the shore?

    Yes.
    Quote:

    Has he visited the restaurateurs who this affects?
    Yes, and the fishermen.
    Quote:

    Has he talked to the tourists who have lost money on their vacations because they booked them prior to the oil spill?
    Yes (but not all of them).
    Quote:

    Nashville
    "Obama had no plans to go there, but the president had spoken multiple times with Gov. Phil Bredesen (D) about the situation."
  • Jun 8, 2010, 06:10 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Not like Bush. Bush was in the trenches of New Orleans after Katrina.

    Yep, Bush is well known for his handling of Katrina:
    The Washington Monthly

    BTW using "nobama" makes you sound like a child.
  • Jun 8, 2010, 06:11 PM
    J_9
    Has Nobama been "in your face" like Bush was with 9/11 or Katrina? No, he hasn't, he's afraid to get his clothes dirty.
  • Jun 8, 2010, 06:13 PM
    NeedKarma
    So you want your president to be a down-home farm type in overalls?
  • Jun 8, 2010, 06:14 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    BTW using "nobama" makes you sound like a child.


    Okay, the Hussein then. I don't like the man, never have, never will. His approval rating is declining rapidly.

    Obama Weekly Approval Average Dips to New Low of 46%
  • Jun 8, 2010, 06:14 PM
    NeedKarma
    Hatred is a nasty thing - you should let it go lest it cloud your judgement.
  • Jun 8, 2010, 06:21 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    So you want your president to be a down-home farm type in overalls?

    Yup, I do. I want a man who can relate to the common family. My family lived a very comfortable lifestyle prior to my getting an education. Since the election, and my induction from blue collar to professionalism, my family has been suffering terribly.

    I could go on, but I have privacy issues to deal with. At least I have chicken patties in the freezer to feed the kids tonight.

    NK, you don't have to worry about that. You don't live here.
  • Jun 8, 2010, 06:21 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Hatred is a nasty thing - you should let it go lest it cloud your judgement.

    I don't HATE anyone. It's not in my vocabulary. Now, dislike is.
  • Jun 8, 2010, 06:25 PM
    Wondergirl
    At least Obama's Gallup rating isn't quite as far down as Bush's lowest at 29 yet.
  • Jun 8, 2010, 06:31 PM
    paraclete
    Give him time, but the trend is obvious
  • Jun 8, 2010, 06:38 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Yup, I do. I want a man who can relate to the common family.

    Obama's early years were spent with a white mom and black dad who divorced. His mom remarried (so he had to learn how to live with a stepdad). He was half-raised by a grandmother. He moved around and had no stable home except with his grandmother in Hawaii.

    If anyone had an elitist upbringing, it was G. W. Bush.
  • Jun 8, 2010, 06:40 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Give him time, but the trend is obvious

    Happily, he is a good learner.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 02:23 AM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Hatred is a nasty thing - you should let it go lest it cloud your judgement.

    Considering NK's stated opinions of Sarah Palin, this should be noted as the voice of experience.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 02:24 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Are you saying that someone shouldn't keep your constant spreading of FUD in check? I hope not. You should not get carte blanche to continue whining about everyone who does share the same particular political affiliation as you.

    I welcome challenges to my opionions and facts. That happens all the time here without the personal insults.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 05:24 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Ok, how do you propose the situation be handled?

    Vote for someone else.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 05:29 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    BTW using "nobama" makes you sound like a child.

    Which brings us back to my earlier point - POTUS sounds juvenile by trying to find someone's a$$ to kick instead of being a leader.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 05:38 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    POTUS sounds juvenile by trying to find someone's a$$ to kick instead of being a leader.

    But he didn't say that did he? He was asked before his response, on whether it was time to "kick some butt". His words were a tongue-in-cheek response, using Matt Lauer's words back at him. Watch the whole thing. He's not trying to be badass. He's just paraphrasing the reporter's words.

    Scarborough: People will "hyperventilat[e]" over Obama's " to kick" comment because they're "idiots" | Media Matters for America

    If he's civil, you people that he's not getting pissed off, so he gets pissed off, and you complain that he's not civil.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 06:24 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    But he didn't say that did he? He was asked before his response, on whether it was time to "kick some butt". His words were a tongue-in-cheek response, using Matt Lauer's words back at him. Watch the whole thing. He's not trying to be badass. He's just paraphrasing the reporter's words.

    The president of the United States, allows himself to be goaded into a schoolyard taunt and you think that's leadership, you think that's presidential. You think him talking to people so he knows "whose a$$ to kick" instead of so he'll know how to solve the problem is leadership.

    Quote:

    We talk to these folks because they potentially had the best answers so I know whose a$$ to kick. Right?
    Wrong! He didn't run on a platform of assigning blame, he was not elected to assign blame, that is not "change you can believe in."

    Quote:

    If he's civil, you people that he's not getting pissed off, so he gets pissed off, and you complain that he's not civil.
    As if you gave Bush any slack?
  • Jun 9, 2010, 06:29 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    a schoolyard taunt

    My you're a delicate little creature aren't you. :) It's amazing what offends you. You politically correct types must get offended hundreds of times a day.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 06:33 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    My you're a delicate little creature aren't you. :) It's amazing what offends you. You politically correct types must get offended hundreds of times a day.

    Obviously, taunting and goading are tactics you find relevant.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 06:46 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Obviously, taunting and goading are tactics you find relevant.

    As do you since that is you're raison d'être here.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 06:53 AM
    tomder55

    I would think that a prequesite to kicking a$$ would be to actually meet the person who's a$$ you are going to kick.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 06:57 AM
    NeedKarma
    Doesn't have to be a physical thing does it?
  • Jun 9, 2010, 07:01 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    LAUER: Have you spoken directly to Tony Hayward, the CEO of BP?

    OBAMA: I have not spoken to him directly and, and here's the reason. Because my experience is when you talk to a guy like BP's CEO, he's going to say all the right things to me. I'm not interested in words. I'm interested in actions. And, and, and, and we are communicating to him every single day exactly what we expect of him and what we expect of that administration.
    Let's see, how many CEO's have they dragged into Washington to cross examine?
  • Jun 9, 2010, 07:09 AM
    tomder55

    I realize that he meant a rhetorical beat down ;or more likely sick the dogs of the justice dept on BP after he isn't dependent on them anymore.

    Still as I already mentioned ; he is not shy about summoning into his office other captains of industry when he wants to impose his will on them. But when it makes sense during "the worse environmental crisis in the country's history " he fails to consult with the person from BP primarily responsible for action.

    Don't you think that's strange ? I think a closer examination of the relationship between the Obama machine and BP is warrented .
  • Jun 9, 2010, 07:17 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Don't you think that's strange ? I think a closer examination of the relationship between the Obama machine and BP is warrented .

    Matt Laeur to his credit has been tougher on Obama lately, his response was "In all due respect, that feels strange to me."

    It should feel strange considering how quickly executives of Toyota and other corporations in their cross hairs have been summoned for an "a$$-kicking."
  • Jun 9, 2010, 07:18 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Don't you think that's strange ? I think a closer examination of the relationship between the Obama machine and BP is warrented .

    Hello again, tom:

    Yeah, he was a big supporter of "drill, baby drill". You're in good company, though. Sarah Palin thinks he's in bed with the oil industry too...

    Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

    excon
  • Jun 9, 2010, 07:47 AM
    tomder55

    You see Palin as a discredited politician . I don't . (Check out how many primary winners were endorsed by Palin yesterday. )

    Obama biggest recipient of BP cash - Erika Lovley - POLITICO.com

    Of course Palin also received oil company donations in her time ;but she has a track record of imposing her will on them for the benefit of her constituency.
  • Jun 9, 2010, 08:22 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    You see Palin as a discredited politician . I don't

    Hello again, tom:

    I don't either, although I think quitting on her constituents to make money is kind of shabby. I believe you. I think she DID do some good stuff while governor. That isn't why I disdain her. I do that, because she's an idiot. Even idiots get stuff done once in a while.

    She didn't know anything about the world when she first came upon the national scene. That's OK. She's had TIME to brush up on stuff, but she hasn't. Book learning is probably TOO elite for her. She knows as little about the world as she did back then. She's even dufuser than the original dufus.

    excon
  • Jun 9, 2010, 08:33 AM
    tomder55

    I won't try to change your opinion about her intellect and neither of us know if she has done any international study . I don't see her as running in a national campaign any time soon so I think that issue can be shelved for now.

    But you are giving her a bad rap about the circumstances that sort of forced her to resign . The fact is the ethics reforms she championed ,and pushed through the Alaska legislature were used against her by the unscrupulous . The unproven ;the false ,the libelous charges were forcing her to waste time and money on her defense ;and as a result affecting her ability to be an effective executive. She did the people of Alaska a favor by resigning so some normalcy could return to the state government . She also needed to raise money and she has of course also been very effective at that.

  • All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:20 AM.