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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

No one mentioned race but you. If voting takes hours, then that should be remedied, but I doubt that is widespread, and I doubt even more that it is race based in any way.

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You didn't see those photos and videos of long lines of poc, patiently standing in line for hours -- all day and even after dark?

"The lines are long, but Black voters are demonstrating their will to vote.In Texas, Georgia, Virginia, North Carolina, and Indiana, African Americans’ resiliency and resolve have never been as severely tested.
They have gone to great lengths to overcome voter suppression, discouragement, misinformation, gerrymandering, and so many other obstacles to participate in America’s elections."
https://www.insightnews.com/news/nat...2db2e8e3b.html

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white people have been voting mail in for decades, especially repubs,

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This is true . It is called absentee ballots . You have to request them and your identity verified before receiving them . Then they ONLY get counted in close elections .

‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.”

(2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by Jimmy Carter and James Baker ).


They also called on states to increase voter ID requirements(REAL ID should cover that ....sometime next year people will be required to have them for many uses like driving ,air travel ,passports ,getting into Federal facilites ); to halt ballot harvesting; to maintain voter lists; to allow election observers to monitor ballot counting; to make sure voting machines are working properly and to have a paper audit trail for every vote the machines tabulated . They also called on the media to refrain from calling elections early based on exit polls .
Building Confidence in U.S. Elections (legislationline.org)


Kay C. James, a commission member said :

"So many of the problems we’re now hearing about in the aftermath of the 2020 election could have been avoided had states heeded the advice of the Commission on Federal Election Reform,”......Simple protections against fraud, like voter ID and updated voter registration lists, make perfect sense if we truly believe that every vote must count. Election officials should take another look at the commission’s recommendations and make sure they’re doing everything possible to protect the integrity of our elections.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

This is true . It is called absentee ballots . You have to request them and your identity verified before receiving them . Then they ONLY get counted in close elections .

‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.”

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Tomder, for all your blather, Trump's own administration called the election the safest and most secure in the history of US elections.The head of CISA Chris Krebs who made this statement was promptly fired by Trump. Give it up and stop acting like the nutcase in the WH.

What was he doing as Director CISA while the Ruskies were hacking ?

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Trump's own administration called the election the safest and most secure in the history of US elections

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A statement by one person amounts to, "Trump's own administration"???

It seems unfortunate that there are so many people who believe that minorities are either too simple-minded or too lazy to get a voter ID (which most people already have) and go to a polling place to vote. To them, only white people can figure out such a fantastically difficult and complicated process, so for them, requiring those things amounts to some form of systemic racism. It actually amounts to a subtle and yet substantial prejudice against minorities in suggesting they cannot do what everyone else seems perfectly capable of doing. It illustrates "the bigotry of low expectations."

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Originally Posted by tomder55

What was he doing as Director CISA while the Ruskies were hacking ?

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He was doing his job. Whether he knew or didn't know about Russian hacking is irrelevant to what he knew about the election. Various sources, including IBM, said the election was not hacked by the espionage hack. It's also possible Krebs knew but did not publicly reveal what he knew re the hack.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

A statement by one person amounts to, "Trump's own administration"???

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Does it matter the dufus LOST. Accept it.

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It seems unfortunate that there are so many people who believe that minorities are either too simple-minded or too lazy to get a voter ID (which most people already have) and go to a polling place to vote. To them, only white people can figure out such a fantastically difficult and complicated process, so for them, requiring those things amounts to some form of systemic racism. It actually amounts to a subtle and yet substantial prejudice against minorities in suggesting they cannot do what everyone else seems perfectly capable of doing. It illustrates "the bigotry of low expectations."

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Black voters obviously met the standard in their states to register and vote despite the shenanigans, so your disgusting assessment is a deluded fringe loony lie. I mean do voters standing in long lines sound lazy to you? It seems the subtle prejudice against minorities is YOURS and obviously blatant and unfounded at that.

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Black voters obviously met the standard in their states to register and vote

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Wonderful. Kind of makes your argument weak, don't you think?

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so your disgusting assessment is a deluded fringe loony lie.

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You sure are thin skinned.

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I mean do voters standing in long lines sound lazy to you? It seems the subtle prejudice against minorities is YOURS and obviously blatant and unfounded at that.

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You need to learn to read. I did not say anyone was lazy. I have no doubt that anyone in this country who is willing to trouble him/her self can register and vote. You are the one who doubts that they are willing to put out the effort to do it. "The soft bigotry of low expectations."

Sorry we voted the dufus out. I know it hurt you deeply. You loony fringers have my sincere condolences for your loss. Look at the bright side. The dark stank of the dufus a$$ can be replaced by sunshine and flowers if you so choose. If you need help extricating yourself don't hesitate to ask.

It can't be easy after years of delusion and lunacy, but I'm here for you!

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Sorry we voted the dufus out. I know it hurt you deeply. You loony fringers have my sincere condolences for your loss. Look at the bright side. The dark stank of the dufus a$$ can be replaced by sunshine and flowers if you so choose. If you need help extricating yourself don't hesitate to ask.

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Honestly, I'm tired of your constant references to men's asxes. I have enjoyed many of our exchanges, but that makes you appear to be an ignorant, vulgar little man who can come up nothing intelligent to say and is afraid of any kind of honest discussion. If that is the case with you, then find someone with similar interests in men's rear ends to exchange with. That sick train of thought is not something I am familiar with. If you want to continue it, count me out.

Obviously you are in denial of where your head is stuck at. That's okay. I understand your helpless frustration. If you stop kicking so wildly I can grab your ankles and pull you free.

Just trying to help my loony fringe brother get some fresh air.

Could you turn your head a bit to the left so your nose can clear the dufus hemorrhoids'?

Thankfully, there is a "block" choice on this site to eliminate cowardly, ignorant, vulgar little men who can come up with nothing intelligent to say and are afraid of honest discussion. Boom. It's a shame, but it's time. I'll miss our discussions, but there must be some level of civility, so enough.

@JL

Well you could just simply deny my observation of where your head is at, but if blocking me makes you feel better then go for it.

Makes no difference to me where you run...you can't hide. Or you could just stop throwing rocks yourself, up to you what you do.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Obviously you are in denial of where your head is stuck at. That's okay. I understand your helpless frustration. If you stop kicking so wildly I can grab your ankles and pull you free.

Just trying to help my loony fringe brother get some fresh air.

Could you turn your head a bit to the left so your nose can clear the dufus hemorrhoids'?

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I had to laugh at this. Gross, but you painted a picture hard to get rid of. Still laughing.

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I had to laugh at this. Gross, but you painted a picture hard to get rid of. Still laughing.

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Unsurprisingly, it would attract you.

It's a dirty job Athos, confronting an insulting bully, but somebody has to do it.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

It's a dirty job Athos, confronting an insulting bully, but somebody has to do it.

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And with humor! Nice work.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Thankfully, there is a "block" choice on this site to eliminate cowardly, ignorant, vulgar little men who can come up with nothing intelligent to say and are afraid of honest discussion. Boom. It's a shame, but it's time. I'll miss our discussions, but there must be some level of civility, so enough.

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why are you still here

Same reason you're still here.

Insomnia?