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Originally Posted by talaniman

People are infection sites and masks may help though how much who can know. We do know the risk go up without them. Does mouth wash kill the virus? I didn't know that.

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Apparently the virus lodges in the throat for a few days before descending to the lungs, using an antiseptic gargle kills it in the throat

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Apparently the virus lodges in the throat for a few days before descending to the lungs, using an antiseptic gargle kills it in the throat

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And spit out all the mucus etc. after each gargle.

The prevalent test is a nose swab, so spit instead of swallow with or without the mouthwash.

Yes I hear that nose swab is unpleasant, but how can you tell if you have CV19 when the flu is much the same

Trump's delay in responding to the Covid-19 outbreak resulted in 36,000 deaths according to epidemiologists at Columbia University. Other studies have put the figure as high as 60,000 deaths.

During the delay in responding, Trump spent his time golfing and holding rallies. He was warned in plenty of time to react that the pandemic was happening but he called it a "hoax". Later, he said bizarrely, that he knew it was a pandemic before anybody else.

The history books now have another major item to associate with Trump - one of only three presidents to be impeached in more than 200 years, and the president that fiddled while his country burned.

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Yes I hear that nose swab is unpleasant, but how can you tell if you have CV19 when the flu is much the same

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A scientist can tell. I can't.

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Trump's delay in responding to the Covid-19 outbreak resulted in 36,000 deaths according to epidemiologists at Columbia University. Other studies have put the figure as high as 60,000 deaths.

During the delay in responding, Trump spent his time golfing and holding rallies. He was warned in plenty of time to react that the pandemic was happening but he called it a "hoax". Later, he said bizarrely, that he knew it was a pandemic before anybody else.

The history books now have another major item to associate with Trump - one of only three presidents to be impeached in more than 200 years, and the president that fiddled while his country burned.

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The disgusting part is the dufus push to restore the economy while he pushes addressing the virus to the states puts us all at a greater risk of the virus. Second wave through the south predicted within the next month. It's not even Memorial Day yet and the spikes are already popping up.

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The disgusting part is the dufus push to restore the economy while he pushes addressing the virus to the states puts us all at a greater risk of the virus. Second wave through the south predicted within the next month. It's not even Memorial Day yet and the spikes are already popping up.

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I feel for you over there, the virus has been a very mild outbreak here, lots of fear but actually much less impact than the flu, any problems are just the result of panic, because someone used the word pandemic, he is probably just looking at our experience and wishing he could translate it into his

Really hope it stays that way for you folks. Please send us some mouthwash.

Yeah. The solution is plainly just to shut down the entire economy, lock everyone in their homes, and let the nation starve. Then, after a few months of that, we can open up what's left of the economy and end up on the level of Mexico. But that would at least solve the problem of illegal immigration. No one would want to come here.

A serious economic depression would be at least as dangerous as this virus if not more so. Sweden did not shut down and they are doing better than several of the larger European nations that tried to lock things down.

To date no one has starved and food has been distributed robustly and as you have noted before the whole economy hasn't been shut down. Just the blue collar folks. You want to compare us to Sweden though? This is what the Swedish Ambassador said recently

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...ntary-strategy

"In the meantime, life is not carrying on as normal in Sweden. Most people are staying at home voluntarily. Domestic train travel, a major means of transportation, has fallen drastically, and almost all domestic flights have been canceled. Many businesses have closed. Unemployment is expected to rise dramatically. In response, the government has approved crisis packages to mitigate the financial impact of the pandemic on Swedish businesses and workers."

Our ways of getting money to the people that need it seems way to slow. Just adding to the fears of those workers, since many threats have been made if those workers don't go back to work here as we rush to reopen.