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  • Jul 10, 2014, 04:08 PM
    smoothy
    I don't think most of them are... their allegance isn't to this country and its laws.

    There is no right to protest or for people to flap their gums incessantly secifically written into it either... limits can be set and they have in the past...

    In fact Illegals don't have ANY rights written in the constitution at all...
  • Jul 10, 2014, 04:34 PM
    Catsmine
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    There is nothing about a right to 30 shot clips in the constitution.
    Nothing about where you ride in the wagon, either. The rear seats of the bus got there just as fast as the front. The arguments about "need" are spurious. The American people "need" to be as heavily armed as the enemies crossing the border with the children or the enemies being trained at Quantico.
  • Jul 10, 2014, 04:58 PM
    talaniman
    Your version of the Rosa Parks story is extremely lacking in historical facts and context, and if the Marines at Quantico, your fellow Americans are your enemy then that's pretty delusional. And I fail to see how your guns in your state, in your home, are helping at the border against coyotes.
  • Jul 10, 2014, 05:45 PM
    paraclete
    So the armed forces of the United States are the enemies of the people? sounds like you have regressed 160 years to the days of the confederacy. If your people cared about peopele crossing the border they would take those arms you prize and turn them on the invaders, turns out they think differently to the 1%, whichever 1% that might be, the criminal class, or the rich class, of the rabid red neck class
  • Jul 10, 2014, 07:07 PM
    smoothy
    The Constitution gives the population the RIGHT to own weapons as a failsafe against an out of control president or out of control military to have the means to resist.

    Read the Federalist papers, the thoughts and intents of the founding fathers who wrote the constitution and everything is spelled out in them.
  • Jul 10, 2014, 07:26 PM
    talaniman
    We have evolved past the revolution,and civil war dude. We vote and sue. Are you so upset at losing the last election you want to grab a gun? DUDE!

    What if you lose the next one too? You must think you have more guns and bullets on your side or something.
  • Jul 10, 2014, 07:34 PM
    smoothy
    Because this last election, in fact the last two elections... have proven we NEED more guns... because its proven a meglomaniac who completely disregaurds the laws, and the cult that follows him protects him when he does it... can steal elections through fraud...and there is no longer an actual independent unbiased media. And hasn't been for far over a decade.


    Exactly like happened with Hitler, and Mussilini... and Stalin...
  • Jul 10, 2014, 10:01 PM
    paraclete
    Absolute rubbish smoothy, do you have the gestapo (NSA) rounding up dissidents? Are your local police forces breaking heads and labour strikes? are your students revolting? well yes but that is a different issue. are there large numbers interned for their political views?
  • Jul 11, 2014, 02:33 AM
    tomder55
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    We vote and sue
    lol lol lol lol
  • Jul 11, 2014, 04:13 AM
    paraclete
    If you have evolve beyond settling you differences with wars, you have evolved beyond settling your difference with guns, I guess you haven't evolved as far as you think you have
  • Jul 11, 2014, 04:39 AM
    talaniman
    Some rattle sabers, others pump guns in the air. It's a scare tactic, mostly for those who are afraid and feel threatened but want you to be afraid too. Guns are and never were the real problem Clete, as anything in the wrong hands is lethal.
  • Jul 11, 2014, 06:32 AM
    paraclete
    Yes but guns have become the problem tal, they are the weapon of choice
  • Jul 11, 2014, 06:46 AM
    speechlesstx
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    Yes but guns have become the problem tal, they are the weapon of choice
    I could spend a whole day on how wrong that is. When you have a segment of society hell-bent on destroying traditional values, such as families, cheapening human life via millions of abortions, undermining parental authority, intentionally stoking racial tensions and otherwise insisting that anything goes EXCEPT respect for the previous things listed, who can be surprised at how perverted and violent it's become? I mean geez, you've got teens running around knocking out unsuspecting victims just for the hell of it. Guns are not the problem.
  • Jul 11, 2014, 07:59 AM
    talaniman
    Yeah, you guys "never" stoke racial tensions, or accept that your "traditional values" are shared by everyone though you think you can make it so.
  • Jul 11, 2014, 09:50 AM
    NeedKarma
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    you've got teens running around knocking out unsuspecting victims just for the hell of it.
    That was a hoax and you fell for it... because you want to believe it.
  • Jul 11, 2014, 09:52 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Yeah, you guys "never" stoke racial tensions, or accept that your "traditional values" are shared by everyone though you think you can make it so.
    Contrary to lib belief, we aren't the ones forcing our values on others, trying to destroy yours, or harboring most of the racists.
  • Jul 11, 2014, 10:04 AM
    talaniman
    Liberals have as much right to their beliefs as you do so get over it, as you are so fond to say about YOUR rights.
  • Jul 11, 2014, 10:05 AM
    tomder55
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    That was a hoax and you fell for it... because you want to believe it.
    The knock out game is a hoax?

    Knockout game - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  • Jul 11, 2014, 03:20 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    you've got teens running around knocking out unsuspecting victims just for the hell of it.
    I see an opinion that this is a hoax where I come from teh problem has become so endemic that new laws have been enacted because of deaths from this nonsense a fad that has gone aroound the world and guess what gun carrying didn't protect anyone
  • Jul 11, 2014, 05:07 PM
    NeedKarma
    The 'knockout game' faux media trend has finally jumped the shark - Los Angeles Times

    snopes.com: Knockout Game Turns Deadly

    Reports: Alleged trend of 'knockout game' a myth

    'Knockout Game' Is A Fabricated Trend, Victim James Addlespurger Says (VIDEO)

    Knockout game trend: It's not real, but random street assaults are.

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