Ask Me Help Desk - Felons and guns

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Yea but not for simply filling an application:

Can't YOU read either... they applied... when their checks were done flagging them as felons they were arrested.

They applied to BUY a gun.. filling out the form... they never actually GOT the gun.

And those where three different people... the first three I came across... no cherry picking.

Exactly WHAT purpose would a felon have for filling out the form? Except to commit what ammounts to a crime.

Some Felons are willing to take that chance... and go back to the big house... I don't think excon wants to do that. Because I think he's smarter than those others.

Yea, I didn't think you'd understand.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Yea, I didn't think you'd understand.

Its obvious to everyone you don't. But then you are from a country that really has no gun rights to speak of.

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But then you are from a country that really has no gun rights to speak of.

Your ignorance knows no bounds.

" It's clear that a felon CAN'T own a gun. If he applies, he'll be turned down. Some people think the act of applying when you're NOT eligible, is its own separate crime. I don't understand WHY that is. Can you splain that to me?"

You want us to explain why some think applying is a crime?
Kind of tough assignment, Ex. Expaining why others think what they think.

Here is Connecticut's application to be completed by the potential buyer and the seller's agent. I picked CT's form because it was the easiest to find and has a recent revised date:
http://www.ct.gov/despp/lib/despp/sl...s/dps-67-c.pdf

But CT has I think one of the most stringent laws in the nation now, although MD just enacted their new law Oct. 1 and it requires fingerprinting before purchase of a handgun.

If you review the CT form you will see that there are numerous questions about previous convictions. The applicant acknowledges that providing false information is a felony very clearly.
The seller's agent is advised that if the applicant has answered yes to certain questions on the form that the applicant MAY be prohibited from purchasing the weapon.
It appears to me that if the applicant answers all the questions on the form accurately and honestly, he/she will not be violating CT's law. The use of the words MAY BE PROHIBITED implies that it is not clear that everyone who has been convicted of the crimes identified on the form, can't buy a gun.
It also appears to me that "some people" are wrong when they think that applying (at least in CT) when you think you MAY NOT BE ELIGIBLE, is a crime.
Perhaps CT takes into consideration that someone may have been convicted and later exonerated and relies on the official background check to pick that up- don't know- but if merely checking yes in a box disqualified the applicant the seller's agent would be advised to not submit the form. Instead the agent is advised that the purchase MAY be denied.
MD had so many people wanting to buy guns before the new law went into effect that the state police (MSP) had to farm out review of applications to clerks in other state employee divisions such as highways and health dept.
Dealers were selling and releasing weapons without completion of the background checks as they are allowed to do if they don't get an answer with x days. MSP went out and retrieved some of those weapons when they realized what had happened as the background check was finally completed.
Every state is different. That's about the only blanket true statement that can be made about the USA.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Your ignorance knows no bounds.

So what else is new

Wasn't that the glitch in the background check talks? Some states are making gun buying easier, and some don't cooperate with other states in a national background check. In most cases, if you take a car ride, you can buy a gun, and take it home. A strict law doesn't matter if the next state or the next one over can sell a gun like candy.

Where do you think all those guns in Chicago come from? HINT: It ain't Chicago.

I think they are made in the USA, just a thought

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Wasn't that the glitch in the background check talks? Some states are making gun buying easier, and some don't cooperate with other states in a national background check. In most cases, if you take a car ride, you can buy a gun, and take it home. A strict law doesn't matter if the next state or the next one over can sell a gun like candy.

Where do you think all those guns in Chicago come from? HINT: It ain't Chicago.

Do you have proof of this as it is my experience that it is not as easy as candy. That is just something that libs like to throw out there. Other then committing an illegal act where are you saying its so easy to cross state lines to buy a weapon ?

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Originally Posted by cdad

where are you saying its so easy to cross state lines to buy a weapon ?

Chicago into Indiana, right around the curve of the lake. For illegal-in-Illinois fireworks too.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...gun-trafficker

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1...lice-find.html

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Chicago into Indiana, right around the curve of the lake. For illegal-in-Illinois fireworks too.

Charges expose gun pipeline from Indiana to Chicago's violence-plagued neighborhoods - Chicago Tribune

Illinois, Indiana big source of guns used in Chicago crimes, say cops - Chicago Sun-Times

Neither of the articles you posted show where legal purchaes were made and retained.