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Originally Posted by talaniman

HHS Awards New Health Exchange Grants to Five States

SEE NOTE UNDER MAP.

Reds states are actually using federal money for implementig exchanges to hire lawyers to fight the ACA.

http://doughertyinsurance.com/2011/0...nce-exchanges/



We know NOW that its been settled and if a state succeeds with a market based exchange, they too qualify for tax exemptions especially in the area of succesfully insuring the low income people of their state. Now if they DON'T, the FEDS will step in, and thats the difference Speech, in making the arithmetic work correctly.

Its like Ex points out, its NOT a solution, its the structure for a solution to be found. OOOOPS have to use that word again, its the beginning of a PROCESS of finding what works, and what doesn't. Unlike you guys who make laws and say its a solution with no consideration for PROCESS, we think about the HOW of solving THE real problem.

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What part of the IRS illegally imposing taxes without consent of Congress don't you understand?

Just because you say that's what they are doing doesn't mean they are, and all you have to do is reread your own link, and update your data.

Speaking of math again, the White House suddenly has an interest in it. With his sequestration deal approaching he wants contractors to hold off on not issuing the required 60 day layoff notices because those layoff numbers might hinder his election numbers.

Not only that, but in another classic late Friday move that no one pays attention to, his OMB issued a guidance that's going to let taxpayers pay for those defense workers not to work.

What the heck did he think would happen with those defense cuts? Further proof the only math that matters to Obama is number One. Screw the rest of us.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

What the heck did he think would happen with those defense cuts?

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Hello again, Steve:

Hellloooooo... Earth to Steve... Congress did the sequester, NOT Obama.

There ain't nothing more to say about that.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

Hellloooooo... Earth to Steve... Congress did the sequester, NOT Obama.

There ain't nothing more to say about that.

excon

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Blame Prince Harry Ried... Congress has sent SEVERAL budgets to the Senate that Harry the self proclaimed emporer without a clue... has refused to allow to come up for a vote.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

Hellloooooo... Earth to Steve... Congress did the sequester, NOT Obama.

There ain't nothing more to say about that.

excon

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Earth to ex, Democrats took the credit, now they want to scam us to win an election.

Hello again, Steve:

I read the article.. Although it SCREAMED about those terrible Democrats, it only MENTIONS one, Tim Kaine, and he criticized the sequester too.

excon

Yeah, Kaine is concerned we might lose a few bureaucrats. Sure sounds to me like Dems were excited about it as a budget cutter while saving entitlements.

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“Democrats passed legislation to reduce the deficit by more than $2 trillion,” reads a memo from the Democratic Policy and Communications summarizing the “Accomplishments of the 112th Congress” obtained by The Washington Examiner. “By passing the Budget Control Act (BCA), the Senate avoided a catastrophic national default being threatened by congressional Republicans. The Act is a bipartisan compromise that establishes overall spending levels and will reduce the deficit by $2.1 trillion over ten years. The BCA calls for the largest package of spending cuts in the history of the United States, while protecting Social Security, Medicare beneficiaries, and programs for the most vulnerable.”

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I'd say they have all sides covered on this, privately boasting, publicly criticizing, and scamming the taxpayers to boot.

Congress should do its job and cut a deal, then all this other BS goes away. How far will repubs go to protect their sacred job creators? You guys are just mad you have boxed yourself into a corner trying to justify a further tax cut (5 trillion bucks) at the expense of the safety net, and most of your candidates cannot reveal the specifics on how you deficit hawks are paying for it.

Again, you guys deny the math and miss the whole point of fact. The republican budgets don't add up unless you are already really rich.

More republican straw arguments about doom, and gloom to hide the fact you guys love your bosses more than yourselves, and will do whateer YOU are told.

That's not rain its PEE! And America will stand up to rich bullies telling LIES!!

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Originally Posted by talaniman

That's not rain its PEE! And America will stand up to rich bullies telling LIES!!

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Yeah, and they can start with George Soros and Jon Corzine.

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How far will repubs go to protect their sacred job creators?

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Funny, but it was Dems who passed the WARN act with veto-proof majorities to force employers to give a 60 day notice before layoffs. Now they want to pay employers to violate their own law and keep employees in the dark. At least until after November.

It's Dems screwing the workers dude, not us.

Congress should do its job and cut a deal, then all this other BS goes away.

Its congress screwing the workers and that's what repubs want! Screwed workers.

No it isn't except if by 'Congress' you mean the Senate ,led by the official spokesperson for the Mormon Church... Harry Reid (aka Grima Wormtongue )

Yeah I gotz more .

I am waiting to see how long the unions stay silent regarding the sequestration. BY LAW, lay off notices MUST be sent out to the DOD subcontractors four days prior to the election in order to meet the notice provisions of the law. News sources are saying Obama, contrary to the law (what else is new) has sent out correspondence saying these notices ARE NOT to be sent out. He does not want a backlash at the polls. Virginia and other states have high numbers of these employees. Hey! These families have a right to know their jobs are on the line. Democrats are trying to say this is a political move. No - it is the law. Government requires that these people have a notification prior to lay off.

Interesting... this guy has time to go on the View and Letterman and do fundraisers ,but does not have the time to meet with members of Congress or world leaders.

Its congresses job to get the legislature to the presidents desk. Write congress to do their job. Oh that's right, they are on vacation again, oh well.

I write to Reid all the time demanding he pass a budget. Guess we need regime change in the Senate and the Presidency to get anything done.

Or get the HOUSE in order.

And as I said before, the WARN Act was passed by Democrats - Reagan did not sign it - so Obama is directing businesses to violate their own law at the expense of the workers who won't get the required notice.

Plus, we the taxpayers will foot the bill for any employer who follows this directive.

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the company could treat employee compensation costs for WARN Act liability, attorneys’ fees and other litigation costs as allowable costs to be covered by the contracting agency

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So under Obama corporations get a pass and the workers and taxpayers get screwed. What do you not get about this that's WRONG? You're the one railing about evil corporations screwing workers, where's your outrage Tal?

Hello again, Steve:

Seems to me that since congress passed the sequestration, and it requires employers to do something BAD to their employees, that it's CONGRESS'S fault...

The IDEA, of course, was so that congress would act BEFORE some of the bad stuff starts to happen - and they're NOT... That looks, AGAIN, like it's congress's fault.

I'm not sure what you're complaining about here... Do you WANT those layoff's to happen? Do you WANT chaos to reign? Tell me.. I'm all ears.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

Seems to me that since congress passed the sequestration, and it requires employers to do something BAD to their employees, that it's CONGRESS'S fault...

The IDEA, of course, was so that congress would act BEFORE some of the bad stuff starts to happen - and they're NOT... That looks, AGAIN, like it's congress's fault.

I'm not sure what you're complaining about here... Do you WANT those layoff's to happen?? Do you WANT chaos to reign? Tell me.. I'm all ears.

excon

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You want congress to violate their own law, not give employees a 60 day notice and make the taxpayers pay for the violations? That's a rather immoral view of things.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

You want congress to violate their own law

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Hello Steve:

You're not GETTING me.. I want congress to FIX what they did. They don't have to VIOLATE any laws to do that... NOT doing that, would violate the law..

Look.. This is pretty simple. You think Obama is responsible for the do nothing congress.. I don't.

excon

Oh I get it just fine, do you? How does that make it OK to force taxpayers to subsidize corporations to violate the law and leave workers in the lurch?