You don't think his accent might have had something to do with itQuote:
Originally Posted by excon
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You don't think his accent might have had something to do with itQuote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello clete:Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Psssst... That's part of the profiling.
excon
Ok ex excuse my ignorance, I though it might have been a certain tinge of skin colour, the wearing of large hats and being accompanied by a tribe of brown kids, but this guy had a mustouche a sure give away, and what was with that cell phone.
We don't have profiling here, we refer to suspects as being of aboriginal appearance, of being of asian appearance, of being of south asian appearance, of being of middle eastern appearance, all of which has to do with the size of the nose and the intensity of the sun tan, hardly ever do we refer to someone as northern European or southern European and if there are hispanics they are rare
That's another rub with you leftists, profiling. You spend all day profiling conservatives then b*tch because the cops decide to let a guy go because he doesn't fit the profile.
You guys are so confusing.
But they don't dare say they are profiling, thus they have to stop EVERYONE and inconvenience EVERYONE.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Yeah and that's stupid. Libs get their panties in a collective knot over profiling and then get them in another knot over the mess they created but not allowing profiling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
It makes perfect sense to me to profile. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck... But then if Congress would get off its butt and remodel the immigration service and deal fairly with the millions of illegals who are here now roofing our homes, picking our crops, cleaning our motel rooms...
A fair dealing would be deportation for illegally entering the country . But a more practical decision is in order . We've tried all the lib solutions ;amnesty and all that... and all we asked in return was border security . Well our end of the deal was met at least twice .Quote:
deal fairly with the millions of illegals who are here now
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
And, we're wise to your ploy. How secure is "secure"? If ONE guy gets through, does that mean it's NOT secure?? In order to avoid talking about the 12 million illegals already here, I'll bet you'll say, OF COURSE, that means the border isn't secure...
But, it's pretty DAMN secure.. The subject of the OP ought to tell you that... People are NOT pouring over like they once did. There are 1,000's more Border Patrol. No, there's not a 3,000 mile long, 50 foot high electrified fence, but that's not going to happen. If you're waiting till it does, then you'll wait forever..
excon
You can't deport them. Who will roof our homes, pick our crops, clean our motel rooms and all the other dirty, nasty jobs red-blooded Americans refuse to do?
What's a "practical" solution?
12 million illegals here and you call it secure ?
I already said that it was impractical to deport all of them . Shame on Americans if they think getting their hands dirty is beneath them. That is the truest indicator yet of a failing pampered society .Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Southwestern and Southern farmers have said that crops will rot in the field before they can find white people to harvest them, or who are willing to stick it out more than a couple of days. Of course, now with the drought, it's almost a moot point.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
My solution would be to reinstate the Bracero Program .But no one asked me.
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Not long ago, we didn't care about illegals crossing the border. In fact, we invited them. We did that for a LONG, LONG time, so SOME of them settled down and raised family's.
THOSE are the 12 million that are here.
Now, we've changed our mind.. We want those people OUT. The welcome sign has been removed.. Now, I don't know know the numbers, but I can promise you, the fence is working, the new Border Patrol hires is working, the gun crazy militias roaming the desert are working, the anti-immigration laws like SB 1070 are working, the intrusion into yours and my ability to move about this country FREELY, is working...
But, I KNEW you had a trick up your sleeves about what a "secure" border is. It's NOT secure as long as the 12 million that are here, remain here... So, you'll take up a comprehensive immigration bill AFTER the 12 million are deported... Gotcha..
You KNOW this. You want to distract us again. Is that cause you're out of gas?
excon
I like the idea of a time-limited worker visit to this country with maybe then an opportunity to apply for citizenship. What criteria would then need to be met for citizenship and over what period?
But that doesn't address all the people here now.
The Bracero program was temporary workers . It did not allow for them to become citizens. The farmers get the work needed and the migrants get to work and get paid . Then when the crops are picked ;they go home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
If they want to apply for residency they can do it like every other legal immigrant does .
Dude, I've lived among them all my life so why would I want to deport them? I don't, I wouldn't and it sure seems to me Republicans have done their share to work out a way for them to stay more than once, so I can only surmise your talk about being for securing the borders is just blowing smoke.
I don't know when the time was that I thought illegals crossing the border was a good idea. I've cared about this issue since I began hiring people more than 25 years ago. 27 years ago Reagan did one of those "compromises " that Tal loves so much (aka Simpson-Mazzoli Act, aka the Immigration Reform and Control Act), Amnesty in exchange for border enforcement . Ted the Swimmer sold the enforcement clauses of the law as strong enough to ensure that only a one time amnesty would be needed.Quote:
Not long ago, we didn't care about illegals crossing the border. In fact, we invited them. We did that for a LONG, LONG time, so SOME of them settled down and raised family's.
THOSE are the 12 million that are here
Well Reagan kept his part of the "compromise " . The Congress did not . Back then it was 3 million .But that neglect for the border security means the numbers have swelled to 12 million .If they were invited at all it was under the assumption that the Congress would not take the steps necessary to properly deal with illegal entry into the country .
So now I say I'm all ears and am willing to "compromise " on their status. My bottom line is that border security gets done 1st .
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I'm from the west.. I didn't think about it being an idea. I just knew it WORKED. Farmers loved it.. Restaurant owners loved it. Hotel owners loved it. Small business owners loved it. The Mexican workers loved it. Their family's in Mexico loved it. Both country's benefited from it, and loved it. Nobody DIDN'T love it. They weren't hurting a soul..
Yeah, yeah, I know... You're going to give me that crap about taking jobs away from teenagers - as though you really DO think our teenagers are going to go out into the fields... Bwa, ha ha ha.
It was only when you wingers got scared that we looked at them... But, they don't want to plant bombs.. They want to plant lettuce.
excon
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