Obama is a damn failure... the democrat party is a damn failure... and out of the lefts messiah himself.

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a Sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. ...Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that 'the buck stops here'. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and Grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."

SENATOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, MARCH 2006


By his own words Obama himself is a complete failure... he should man up and resign.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

By his own words Obama himself is a complete failure......he should man up and resign.

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Not much chance of that

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but I do agree that their concerns about inflation tends to go to far.

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They aren't concerned at all .If they were they wouldn't have weakened and debased the dollar to the level of 3rd world currency.

I can understand why you would say 'concerns about inflation tends too go to far'.
You want more taxation ;and as you know ,inflation is a hidden tax.

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Originally Posted by paraclete

Not much chance of that

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I'm not holding my breath... because I don't consider him a real man. He isn't capable of doing the right thing.

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Not much chance of that

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I'm not holding my breath... because I don't consider him a real man.

Besides people with Napoleon complexes never step away from their power fix.

I keep waiting for him to declare himself emperor, and for the democrat party to argue its his constitutional right.

Excuse me?

I live in MN, and frankly, it's the REPUBLICANS that I see as failures.

RAISE TAXES, dammit. But the REPUBLICANS won't do that, oh no.

We had a state shutdown for several weeks because the REPUBLICANS would not compromise on that issue---it was the democrats who finally had to cave and cut spending. Guess where the chosen REPUBLICAN place to cut was?

Education.

Quit freaking blaming one party or the other. They're ALL idiots who are out only for themselves and the rich companies and lobbyists paying them off. It has NOTHING to do with parties, and EVERYTHING to do with holding on to the goodies they have right now.

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Originally Posted by Synnen

Quit freaking blaming one party or the other. They're ALL idiots who are out only for themselves and the rich companies and lobbyists paying them off. It has NOTHING to do with parties, and EVERYTHING to do with holding on to the goodies they have right now.

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Well Sy I would say they are holding on to something

I don't WANT my taxes raised... I pay too much now already... to make up for the nearly half the population that pay no federal taxes now. And nobody that knows me would consider me rich... hell, I barely qualify as middle class.

Let that half pay their share and I bet they lose their taste for the freebies real fast when they realize they are paying for them, themselves.

I don't want MINE raised either.

But the TWO GENERATIONS before you and I screwed us out of that option, thank you very much.

Either that, or we stop ALL government funding for ALL special interest groups. No more tobacco money, no more MADD, no more Rural Electrification Project, no more subsidies on gasoline.

I firmly believe that corporations should pay a LOT higher taxes than they do, but we all know that will NEVER happen, because they just buy the votes away from it---just like any other entity that can afford it BUYS the vote away from raising their taxes.

There's no way we can decrease spending enough to not only balance the budget but also get us out of debt.

Where do YOU suggest that money comes from?

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There's no way we can decrease spending enough to not only balance the budget but also get us out of debt.

Where do YOU suggest that money comes from?

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I would suggest that we take a good look at what is really going on based upon need and not just some presumed baseline that is pure fiction. That would be the best way for balancing the need against the income. If money can be saved then save it. Where extra is needed then prove the need before an increase can occur. With 10% increase in baseline budgeting it doesn't take long to expend programs at a fast pace even without a need for them. Why create a need where is doesn't exist ?

Baseline Budgeting Makes Real Cuts Impossible in Washington InvestmentWatch

I personally suggest we make a 10% CUT every year until our budget is balanced and our debt is paid off.

I have to tighten MY belt.

Why can't programs our government funds do the same thing?

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Where do YOU suggest that money comes from?

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Hello Synn:

Glad you asked. I'm a crash, slash and burner even MORE so than my winger friends.. They LIKE big government - just THEIR form of big government...

So, I'd cut the DEA, the TSA, the NSA, and the B of A. I'd cut the BOP, Homeland Security, the Education Department, and end two, maybe three wars. Then, I'd end the Bush tax cuts.

If this were done, we could take care of our old people and the needy amongst us, and have MONEY left over, so we can again take our leadership in the world.

excon

Are you running for office, excon? If so, my vote is for you.

But... *gasp* what about all of those JOBS?

(I'm with you--but you know that would be the rallying cry from the other side)

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But...*gasp* what about all of those JOBS??

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Hello again, Synn:

Frankly, the country could do with FEWER drug cops, jailers, warriors, occupiers and snoops.

excon

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Hello again, Synn:

Frankly, the country could do with FEWER drug cops, jailers, warriors, occupiers and snoops.

excon

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And drug users, criminals, gang members, terrorists... etc.

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And drug users, criminals, gang members, terrorists....etc.

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Dude we ALL want those people killed.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Dude we ALL want those people killed.

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Well without THAT crowd... you don't need as many of the others.

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And FYI since ex isn't being completely honest here, "raising revenues" means "tax increases". Perhaps if the government was required to pass tax increases by a 2/3 vote they might learn to live within their means.

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Hi speech would you like to add to your suggestion with the same rider on expenditure, if that were done nothing would get done which is almost the status quo. How did you like the world reaction to the deal? A massive dive on stock values as if everything suddenly became riskier.

A government can enjoy higher revenues by improvement in the level of economic activity, higher employment, higher profits, economic expansion, it doesn't necessarily mean higher taxes but it does mean more tax revenues

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Well without THAT crowd....you don't need as many of the others.

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REALITY CHECK-That "crowd" is here, and we seem to needall the cops and jailers etc, we can get. AND THEN SOME, because they seem to be multiplying faster than you can jail 'em.