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  • Jan 9, 2011, 07:35 AM
    paraclete
    Smoothy what happens in Australia doesn't make box office in the US, not unlike the US we have remarkable epic stories here but little capital and few risk takers. These things are well known in Australia but we can't afford to be making B movies about little known stories which used to be the stock in trade of hollywood. This is why our artists feature so promenently in your film industry. Look at the recent TV series the Pacific, one recognisable Australian actor got a place despite much of the series being made here and not a mention of the New Guinea campaign. That tells you that it was aimed at US box office



    Australian has had few novelists to bring the stories forward
  • Jan 9, 2011, 07:55 AM
    tomder55

    A lot of the history of the world has been lost because there wasn't a novelist to turn it into an epoch .

    The battle of Manila is a case in point. Most Americans know the major urban battles in the Atlantic Theater but do not know how terrible the battle to liberate Manila was .It certainly rivals Stalingrad in horror . The civilian death toll in Manila was greater than either Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
  • Jan 10, 2011, 10:31 AM
    tomder55

    Are you getting your share of the Gillard recovery money ?
  • Jan 10, 2011, 10:59 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Smoothy what happens in Australia doesn't make box office in the US, not unlike the US we have remarkable epic stories here but little capital and few risk takers. These things are well known in Australia but we can't afford to be making B movies about little known stories which used to be the stock in trade of hollywood. This is why our artists feature so promenently in your film industry. Look at the recent TV series the Pacific, one recognisable Australian actor got a place despite much of the series being made here and not a mention of the New Guinea campaign. That tells you that it was aimed at US box office



    Australian has had few novelists to bring the stories forward

    Well, WW2 was so extensive and encompassing... not doubt a multitude of smaller campaigns will be overlooked in history... but you would think the Bigger ones would be.
  • Jan 10, 2011, 02:36 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Are you getting your share of the Gillard recovery money ?

    Tom it's a joke I think more has been raised from appeals than the government have given out yet. They have announced various plans but as usual they have lots of rules so people will have to be destitute to see any of it. The amounts they are talking about wouldn't pay the deposit on getting started to rebuild.The reality is that like all disasters businesses have been wiped out, homes have been wiped out, employment has been wiped out and recovery will take years. Just yesterday another city was wiped out by a raging torrent, it just doesn't stop, that's two in two days.
  • Jan 10, 2011, 02:58 PM
    tomder55

    The report I heard on one of the few reliable sources I monitor talked of days of 3"+ rain... that there is a convergence of the major rivers into a flood plain that exceed the territory of some major European nations.

    When the price of wheat goes out of site the US will take notice.
  • Jan 10, 2011, 03:10 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The report I heard on one of the few reliable sources I monitor talked of days of 3"+ rain .....that there is a convergence of the major rivers into a flood plain that exceed the territory of some major European nations.

    When the price of wheat goes out of site the US will take notice.

    We are not talking about 3" of rain we are talking about 12" in a couple of hours followed by continuing falls and we are talking about several river systems some flowing to the sea and some inland, all this water fell on the continental divide so it has nowhere to go but down hill. I don't think some people realise what an inch of rain represents 800,000 gallons an acre

    It won't just be the price of wheat, but sugar, coal, gas, rice, cotton these storm systems since beginning of December have ravaged a major producing nation, they have already impacted currency. The US should be in a position to profit from this
  • Jan 10, 2011, 03:14 PM
    tomder55

    Yes I know... with the state of our currency we are only competitive when comodity prices rise .
  • Jan 10, 2011, 03:46 PM
    paraclete
    More water
    Queensland Floods: At least 8 dead, 72 missing | QLD Floods
  • Jan 11, 2011, 12:31 AM
    paraclete
    The problem grows and grows
    This has gotten to be beyond a joke, probably 3 million people are now affected as Brisbane a major metropolitan centre prepares for the worst flooding in more than thirty years. Further the weather systems have moved south bringing flooding to mountain top towns, cutting major highways and leaving us wondering just what a flood of biblical proportions must be like
    floodrelief/mega-disaster-zone-could-be-declared-for-queensland-floods/story-fn7ik2te-1225985781146
  • Jan 11, 2011, 05:35 AM
    smoothy

    I don't think anyone ever considered it a joke... Floods are never jokes. Not even little ones. And this isn't little by anyone's interpretation.
  • Jan 11, 2011, 09:11 AM
    tomder55

    Reports I heard yesterday is Brisbane is being evacuated.

    I hear death adder ,brown snake and crock attacks are a problem in the area also.
  • Jan 11, 2011, 02:00 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    I don't think anyone ever considered it a joke....Floods are never jokes. Not even little ones. And this isn't little by anyones interpretation.

    Smoothy Australian saying, meaning things are bad. Australians use irony when the situation gets bad, you might say in a way it's an appeal to God
  • Jan 11, 2011, 02:11 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Reports I heard yesterday is Brisbane is being evacuated.

    I hear death adder ,brown snake and crock attacks are a problem in the area also.

    Well there are calls for people to leave low lying suburbs but just where they could go becomes problematical, I can believe the death adder and brown snake but crock are more likely to be found in Rockhampton and Cairns Seems some reports might be becoming confused as basically the whole state which includes tropics and temperate climates is experiencing flooding. The state has 13,000 Km of coastline

    This flooding thing has become bizairre now we have flash flood warning for Melbourne
    flash-flooding-alert-for-melbourne/story-e6frfku0-1225986024030 and I saw a report yesterday that there is a weather system extending from the tropics to Tasmania which will bring heavy rain across half the continent. Just what we need, more rain
    http://www.bom.gov.au/products/natio...sat.loop.shtml
  • Jan 11, 2011, 03:42 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Smoothy Australian saying, meaning things are bad. Australians use irony when the situation gets bad, you might say in a way it's an appeal to God

    Lot of places outside of Australia do that when things get bad too... its a way to put a smile on your face no mater how briefly when there really is little to smile about.
  • Jan 11, 2011, 06:06 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Lot of places outside of Austrailia do that when things get bad too....its a way to put a smile on your face no mater how breifly when there really is little to smile about.

    Yes, in fact, right at this moment you might say we are up the creek without a paddle as is the Drift restrauant,said to be the best restaurant in Australia, which just sunk in the Brisbane river
  • Jan 13, 2011, 08:29 PM
    paraclete
    A new flood but no threat
    When everyone's a star: torrent of giving to ease the grief
  • Jan 13, 2011, 08:40 PM
    smoothy

    Going to be a boom for the Construction industry down there for some time I hear.

    I heard Bull sharks were confirmed 45 miles inland today (Forget the name of the river and town). Besides the poisonous snakes and crocks on the loose certain places.
  • Jan 13, 2011, 09:46 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Going to be a boom for the Construction industry down there for some time I hear.

    I heard Bull sharks were confirmed 45 miles inland today (Forget the name of the river and town). Besides the poisonous snakes and crocks on the loose certain places.

    Not surprised about the sharks, have been waiting for a report, There would be sharks in most of the coastal rivers anyway, but they don't like fresh water.
    Sharks In Queensland Floods | Goodna Sharks | Brisbane Floods anyway the crocks look after them
    http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...114-19r53.html

    This kind of boom we don't need, a couple of years ago it was towns wiped out by bushfires, they still haven't recovered from that. Where we get the tradesmen from is anybody's guess. More houses buily by Jerry. In Brisbane it will be like New Orleans, large numbers of houses condemned because of mould, etc and real questions have to be asked as to whether they should be rebuilt. In my own city there has been for many years a policy of compulsorary acquistion and demolition of flood prone houses but they still have a long way to go to remove them all or protect them with adequate levies, We still have idiots who think its okay to build on a flood plain as long as you build the site up above some benchmark.
  • Jan 14, 2011, 05:51 AM
    smoothy

    That and how many flood cars are going to be cleaned up and sold improperly as cars that have never been wet. Going to be a lot of car buyers screwed with cars that have serious electrical and rust issues as a result of the flood too.

    You have those fools everywhere... that will build a house anywhere they can get away with... and aren't always caught until something bad happens.

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