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Originally Posted by califdadof3

How do you see it different???

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Hello again, dad:

The homophobes in our military have no right to be protected from being offended...

excon

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Do blacks or Asians shower separately from whites?

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No, its not about race. The men don't shower with the women do they ?

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Originally Posted by califdadof3

No, its not about race. The men dont shower with the women do they ?

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Women are a different race from men?

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Women are a different race from men?

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Your much smarter then that. So why play a game?

Unless everything is made into unisex then it should be held separate. If you don't like it so be it. But forcing it on people will bring nothing but trouble.

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Originally Posted by califdadof3

You're much smarter then that. So why play a game?

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I was just joining up with yours.

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Unless everything is made into unisex then it should be held separate. If you don't like it so be it. But forcing it on people will bring nothing but trouble.

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I'm not sure what this means.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I was just joining up with yours.

I'm not sure what this means.

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What I am stating is that when the military allows for gay's to be open then separate facilities should be made so they have their own. Like now how they separate men and women facilities. Sleeping quarters, showers and bathrooms.

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Originally Posted by califdadof3

What I am stating is that when the military allows for gay's to be open then seperate facilities should be made so they have thier own. Like now how they seperate men and women facilities. Sleeping quarters, showers and bathrooms.

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Would straight men worry about sleeping in the same tent with gays? I'm straight and would share a tent with a lesbian. I'd even take a shower with her with no problems.

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Would straight men worry about sleeping in the same tent with gays? I'm straight and would share a tent with a lesbian.

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If your in the field your in the field. The traditional way of the military is that you do what has to be done. Most barracks are not tent cities. Its an apples and oranges thing when comparing in the field to your home station of deployment.

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If your in the field your in the field. The traditional way of the military is that you do what has to be done. Most barracks are not tent cities. Its an apples and oranges thing when comparing in the field to your home station of deployment.

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Barracks. Tents. Battlefield. Anywhere. I have no problem living with lesbians. I would draw the line at gay guys -- not because they're gay, but because they're guys.

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Barracks. Tents. Battlefield. Anywhere. I have no problem living with lesbians. I would draw the line at gay guys -- not because they're gay, but because they're guys.

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Why does that matter? If they are gay and open about it then they aren't attracted to you right ?

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Why does that matter? If they are gay and open about it then they arent attracted to you right ?

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The guys? The straight ones would be attracted to me and might not have any boundaries. Or so you think regarding gays toward straights -- attracted to straights and no boundaries.

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The guys? The straight ones would be attracted to me and might not have any boundaries. Or so you think regarding gays toward straights -- attracted to straights and no boundaries.

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Exactly. :)

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exactly. :)

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But gays DO have boundaries, just like most males do toward females.

How many times a day are you hit on by gay males? (They're everywhere among us.)

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But gays DO have boundaries, just like most males do toward females.

How many times a day are you hit on by gay males? (They're everywhere among us.)

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Im not talking about daily activities. I was only addressing the more private ones.

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Im not talking about daily activities. I was only addressing the more private ones.

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I showered with lesbians in gym class in high school and college, and no one ever hit on me. Had I showered with the guys, I suspect there would have been some problems.

Do you think gays lie in wait for straights (during private activities)?

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I showered with lesbians in gym class in high school and college, and no one ever hit on me. Had I showered with the guys, I suspect there would have been some problems.

Do you think gays lie in wait for straights (during private activities)?

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Do I think the lay in wait?? No, but because of the attraction gay men have towards same sex there may be a thrill involved that you wouldn't encounter with a straight person.

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Do I think the lay in wait ??? No, but because of the attraction gay men have towards same sex there may be a thrill involved that you wouldnt encounter with a straight person.

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Sort of like what we women have to deal with regarding straight men?

And the gay men are attracted to straight men, but lesbians aren't attracted to straight women?

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Sort of like what we women have to deal with regarding straight men?

And the gay men are attracted to straight men, but lesbians aren't attracted to straight women?

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Your beating a dead horse here.

To use your words: Sort of like what we women have to deal with regarding straight men??

I wasn't aware you were undressing in front of so many men. I guess this must be an occupational hazzard ?

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You're beating a dead horse here.

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No, you are. You're saying every straight guy who takes a shower with a gay guy is in grave (sexual) danger.

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I wasn't aware you were undressing in front of so many men. I guess this must be an occupational hazzard ?

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If I were, I'd apparently be having the same problems you straight guys are having with gay men.

I never said grave sexual danger. I used the words sexual harassment.

FAQs - Workplace Harassment

Anyway. Im about to log off as Santa is making the midnight rounds and I have a lot of driving to do. Have a great rest of the evening / morning.

Merry Christmas.