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Its clear he doesn't believe in the First Amendment rights... he feels they ONLY apply to the left and nobody else has the right to an opinion.

Typical Democrat stratagy. When you lose an argument you pull the race card and start making false claims.

Dan Rather Got caught doing that when George Bush couldn't be caught doing something the left tried to accuse him of... so he created fake evidence and got caught.

Personaly, unlike the lefts stance of "Freedom of speech for me, NOT for thee"... they can rant all they want... I don't try to silence them like they want to silence me. And that's a HUGE difference between us.

People 5,000 miles from ground zero can't possibly understand 9/11 like someone who was there, almost died or saw it with their own eyes WITHOUT a TV or radio that day will.

That's no different than someone "Understanding" what a victim of violent crime or rape feels by watching it on TV.

Sorry... NOT the same thing, TV only conveys images and sound... nobody that wasn't there can understand it the same way someone who was can.

You can't understand Combat like a Veteran does if you only watch war movies either.

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I don't try to silence them like they want to silence me.

Who is trying to silence you?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Who is trying to silence you?

Everyone here that's complaining about me having an opinion they don't want to hear.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Everyone here thats complaining about me having an opinion they don't want to hear.

And you want to hear opinions that aren't the same as yours?

You're listening -- and still positing. No one has stopped you.

We're listening -- and still posting. You haven't stopped us.

It's the American way.

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Everyone here thats complaining about me having an opinion they don't want to hear.

Hello again, smoothy:

You got it WRONG again, but I'm used to that. Nobody is complaining about your opinion. In fact, I'm GLAD you're posting the tripe you post. It shows you for what you really are - a racist. Plus, I agree with you, MOST of America feels the same way you do. I'm also glad that you don't hide. You're right out front with your racism, although you deny that's what it is. But, most people can read...

Now there are some people on the right who say that MODERATE Muslims should speak UP against terrorism, and if they DON'T, the right wingers think they AGREE with the terrorists. So, I thought I would call out the wingers HERE, to see if they'd speak up against your racism, because if one were to use THEIR logic, if one DOESN'T speak out against it, one AGREES with it.

One person did speak out. Good for KP. The rest of them are silent. That's just so. Just as silent as the Muslims THEY think SHOULD be speaking...

Now, I KNOW you aren't going to understand what I just said... That's fine.

excon

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And you want to hear opinions that aren't the same as yours?

You're listening -- and still positing. No one has stopped you.

We're listening -- and still posting. You haven't stopped us.

It's the American way.

I wasn't the one complaining someone had an opposing positoion.

Not naming names... but I wasn't the one, wasn't you either. You have to read back through the thread and figure it out.

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As far as Universities....around here, many are known as hangouts for the lunatic fringe on the left that can't get real jobs. Californias Berkely Campus being #1 on the list.

Can't comment on any Aussie Universities. I really know or have even heard little about any of them.

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Our Universities, excepting for Sydney or La Trobe, are places for hard working students to get their degrees and get on with it. We don't have the college system you do so our students, excepting for political science, don't get the opportunity to learn to be lay about trouble makers, can't say the same for the lecturers. Our trade union movement appears to be the hangout for the lunatic left thus the reason why so many graduate to become politicians

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Hello again, smoothy:

You got it WRONG again, but I'm used to that. Nobody is complaining about your opinion. In fact, I'm GLAD you're posting the tripe you post. It shows you for what you really are - a racist. Plus, I agree with you, MOST of America feels the same way you do. I'm also glad that you don't hide. You're right out front with your racism, although you deny that's what it is. But, most people can read....

Now there are some people on the right who say that MODERATE Muslims should speak UP against terrorism, and if they DON'T, the right wingers think they AGREE with the terrorists. So, I thought I would call out the wingers HERE, to see if they'd speak up against your racism, because if one were to use THEIR logic, if one DOESN'T speak out, one AGREES with it.

One person did speak out. Good for KP. The rest of them are silent. That's just so. Just as silent as the Muslims THEY think SHOULD be speaking...

Now, I KNOW you aren't going to understand what I just said... That's fine.

excon

I'm not the one throwing the race card around like Obama has... or the Democrat party in General.

Oh It's abundently clear what you said... Everyone who has a backbone and stands up to Illegals that cross our border without permission, Terrorists that think they have a right to build memorials to Mohammed Attah and his band of merry buttmunchers, Anyone who objects to the lunatic fringe on the left demanding we hand over most of our money to support the lazy SOB's who are too lazy to work their way into better jobs, the LAZY SOB's on welfare that think they are entoitled to have as many babies as they want and the taxpayers HAVE to support them all because the fathers won't do it... The Lunatic fringe on the left that thinks Illegals are entitled to educations and free health care on the dime of those of uswho actually work and actually pay taxes, something most Liberals DON'T do...

Just because the left can't grasp the Concept they got a total IDIOT elected to the office of president and even after almost 2 years in office, those same left wing Lunatics blame George Bush for every stupid thing they have done even though he as been out of pulic office just as long...

That same lunatic Fringe to still believe theoir Messiah has done absolutely nothing wrong even though unemployment rates have nearly doubled with no end in sight, and they the Democrats bought off their political supporters with 1.5 TRILLION of taxpayers money...

Ever wonder why Lehman Brothers was refused bailout by Obamas gang? Really? Look it up... it was the ONLY wall street firm that gave more to republicans than to democrats... the info is out there...

If you actually have the Gonads to call ME a rascist... that proves you neither have the mental capicty to understand that term... or the fact you really have no respect for most americans.

I am steering to the fact that BOTH are true.

Because You just proved what is true in general with Democrats... when they are losing a campaign or argument, they pull out the race card and start the name calling.

If I'm a rascist for saying Illegals should be thrown out of this country...

THen you are a lover of Child molesters and Murderers... Because more than a few of those Illegals You love so well have done this in MY state as well as others..

Just so you know... because YOU and others of your ilk, defend the right of Illegal criminals to be here, you have the blood of rape victims... molested Children... and innocent families who have had family members killed by illegals driving drunk... without a license... and without insurance to attempt to compensate for their losses.

And you know what, I hope you sleep well at night knowing you had a part in that... because I don't lose a minutes sleep for expecting them to follow the laws in the country.

YOU seem to be the person most quick to start in with the name calling and personal attacks, there are a lot of names I can call you in response, but know what, I'm not stooping that low.

Rascist? Get real man... look the word up and find out what it means.

Better yet, I did it for you...

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rac·ism (rszm)
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

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racist adj. & n.

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Noun 1. racist - a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others
racialist
bigot - a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own
Adj. 1. racist - based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"
racial - of or characteristic of race or races or arising from differences among groups; "racial differences"; "racial discrimination"
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racist
adjective
racially prejudiced, prejudiced, racialist, racially bigoted, anti-Semitic, intolerant, chauvinist a racist society
noun
racial bigot, bigot, chauvinist, racialist, anti-Semite He has a hard core of support amongst white racists.

racist - definition of racist by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

And contrary to your beliefs... Islam is not a race. The US Constitution means I don't have to even LIKE Islam... and Islam has no business dictating or threatening us if they don't get what they want people are going to die.

You may wish to read the definition of bigot and look in a mirror.

Any issues I may or may not have with KP... I talk with KP about. He's a big enough man to speak for himself.

Read the definition or racist... nowhere in there does it say... " those who hate criminal activity, including illegals that violate border laws" or anything to that effect.

I am owed an appology for you calling me a rascist.

It really shows when the lefties don't even have the conviction of what they preach to pay for their own initiatives... they exempt themselves and expect the rest of us to finance them.

I may not agree with Ed Begley or Darryl Hannah, but they at least practice what they preach, and I respect them more for doing it... unlike most people on the left.

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And contrary to your beliefs...Islam is not a race. The US Constitution means I don't have to even LIKE Islam....

Hello again, smoothy:

Ok, you're not a racist. You're an Islamaphobe, a Hispanaphobe and a homophobe. Feel better?

excon

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rac·ism (rszm)

2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Same guy who said:

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Wait until some latinos, rape you and steal your property.....then all I can say is we told you so.

Unlike YOU excon, I have a legitimate and good reason to hate Islam... THEY tried to kill me just because I'm American... on 9/11. THat doesn't make me a rascist... it means I have a brain and doen't confuse what they were really doing with the politically Correct explanation whatever that might be. I didn't run and hide like so many liberals did in Vietnam... it made me want retribution.

When was the last time a Conservative strapped on bombs or Flew Planes into liberal landmarks to commit mass murder?

Unlike YOU who hates just to hate, I have a justified reason for my disdain for law breakers and Islamists that want a Victory Mosque on ground Zero.

You were safely in your bed on 9/11 5,000 miles from the closest target. Of Course you won't grasp what that means to those of us that were near, or IN a target that morning.

I suppose you will be celibrating in the streets if and when Iran attacks Isreal?

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Unlike YOU excon, I have a legitimate and good reason to hate Islam...THEY tried to kill me just because I'm American....on 9/11.

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Hello again, smoothy:

You, are OUT of your tree, as usual. America was attacked. Not YOU. YOU, like ME weren't hurt. Therefore, YOU, like ME, DON'T have a right to be touchier about 9/11 than ANY other American does.

YOU ain't special. Get over yourself!

excon

Hello again, smoothy:

I posted this on the other thread. It's worth posting it again.

excon

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Hello again, smoothy:

I posted this on the other thread. It's worth posting it again.

excon

You like most liberals don't have a clue...

Nobody tried to kill anyone on the west coast, OR the Midwest for that matter... YOU weren't there, YOU weren't almost killed, YOU don't have any business lecturing someone who was.

I'd love to see you try that argument on the streets of Manhattan... at any police barraks, or fire station. You'd see a beatdown From the receiving end worse than Mike Tyson taking on Woody Allen.

Maybe their next attempt will be on the left coast instead of the four on the east coast last time... maybe that will shock you and everyone that sympathizes with them back into reality. You don't honestly believe they are done yet, do you? You can thank the Military, FBI, NSA and the CIA for the fact they haven't pulled it off again yet.

Next time you get robbed... it isn't about you, they were only after the stuff after all.

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YOU don't have any business lecturing someone who was.

Hello again, smoothy:

Let me be CLEAR. YOU AIN'T SPECIAL! To think, that they attacked smoothy, and NOT excon, is just plain ridiculous.

excon

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Hello again, smoothy:

Lemme be CLEAR. YOU AIN'T SPECIAL!! To think, that they attacked smoothy, and NOT excon, is just plain ridiculous.

excon

Gee... I was in the Pentagon that morning, the TWO guys I worked with all night begged me to stay after shift change and explain to their shift relief and their Supervisor what the problem was... they both Died. THe ONLY reason I wasn't was because I had what could be called a preomonition, anxiety attack or whatever, but that was the LAST place I wanted to be any longer that morning.

Its never happened before... its never happened since.

Excon was sleeping in Bed 5,000 miles away and didn't even know what happened until sometime later...

I was there you wasn't... but you argue it wasn't about me at all, Well it was... what it wasn't about was you because you were thousands of miles away in bed.

Hmmmmmmm...

Your argument doesn't pass legal muster.

If YOU were standing in a bank branch in a teller line, Some deranged fellow who's house was forclosed upon by a Bank of that name comes in shooting and kills people around you.

What would that person have standing to file assult with attempt to kill charges against the shooter, if it was about the bank... and not the customeras in the branch?

Sorry smoothy, reading your posts for a while makes me doubt that you would be the type that would be working at the Pentagon.

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Excon was sleeping in Bed 5,000 miles away

Where on earth do you think he lived??

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I was there you wasn't...

Where were you during Vietnam?

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Sorry smoothy, reading your posts for a while makes me doubt that you would be the type that would be working at the Pentagon.

You know... if you have seen a fraction of the things I've seen the last 25 years but can't talk about because of non-disclosure agreements I think you too would view things differently. Before 25 years ago when I started to see what really happens vs what you see on the news reports... I was once a liberal too.

There s a list of places I can't travel to and things I can't talk about... and since I don't need to be on the hot seat... I have to err on the side of caution about what I do say about a lot of things... and limit it to what I know is widespread public knowledge (IE been in the news), yes I actually do check sometimes when I don't know if its been on TV.

You can't un-see things... you can't change the past.

And even worse... you can't always talk about everything you see or know. Ever think of how frustrating THAT can be sometimes?

And seriously... do I wish 9/11 never happened? More than you know, being that close to being killed yourself does effect you, it effects everyone that has been there.

Incidentally... I was never a Pentagon employee... I was there doing undisclosed technical work as a contractor, and I am and have been called to go in all hours of the day or night. And I've been in and out of there hundreds of times over the last 16 years. Places no tour group ever goes... nor do any but a fairly select group. And know what, I STILL can't find my way around in that place... it's HUGE.

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Where on earth do you think he lived????

Where were you during Vietnam?

Where was I during Vietnam? Just for an FYI, I'm 49, well I will be in a little more than a month, I was in the 8th grade when the Fall of Saigon happened on April 30, 1975 The 74-75 school year. I was 13 over 6 months from turning 14... a bit young to have been drafted or even enlisted.

Excon has said he lives in Washington State... but has eluded to California. Exactly what county and City I don't have a clue.

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Where was I during Vietnam? Just for an FYI, I was in the 8th grade

Back then excon et al. fought in 'Nam to keep this country safe so you could grow up and have rights.

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Excon has said he lives [on the Left Coast]

Well, if he was in the continental U.S. during 9/11/01, he definitely wasn't 5,000 miles away, but more like half of that or less.