Stating an opinon Smoothy and in our political arena yes there are liars on both sides. I wish our schools today and parents today were like the parents we had. I hate politics .:)Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
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Stating an opinon Smoothy and in our political arena yes there are liars on both sides. I wish our schools today and parents today were like the parents we had. I hate politics .:)Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
My kids have never gotten into trouble, no school shootings have ever occurred in my city, and we're atheists!
You're probably a good parent too. So? Same here, and we're Lutheran.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I'm happy for you! My kids are wonderful children also. We haven't had a school shooting in our city, but I think about all the other places. Have a good day!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Yes, it's about parenting and making that the priority. My post was simply to state that having prayer or mention of a god in school doesn't make a difference. It's the parents that make the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I think you are owed one... after all, in our local schools where I live... they admit 19% of their already high budget (one of the higher in the country) goes towards educating Illegals offspring. And they cry about not having anough money. Simple... get rid of the illegals, California loves them so much... a one way bus fare is cheap... send them over there. Then BAM... 19% of your budget is freed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
They live 15 people to a three bedroom rental... most pay NO taxes... yet WE have to be bled dry to pay for what they aren't, and they don't even belong here, or even have the rioght to be here. Not fair at all.
Do you guys get a refund when you don't use the cops or don't have a fire?
no... ever price a fire truck? I'm serious, I paid less for my house when I bought it. And I'm not in a cheap area.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Disciplining your kids has nothing to do with religion... or lack thereof. It has everything to do with being a good parent, and not trying to be your kids best friend. Friends they get in school... they only have two parents (in most cases anyway).And I grew up in a household that was both Catholic AND Protestant. Basically raised as a protestant by my choice however. Yeah I was given that choice growing up.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I agree about the parenting. I think well behaved children are raised by parents who who don't let them get away with everything. Some kids don't have that. Your children and mine and a whole bunch of others are brought up to respect people. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
How do you figure? Then NO renter pays taxes.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
(Psssst. The landlord figures his property tax into the rent he charges. I've been a landlady. I know.)
Yeah the property owner pays taxes on ONE house or Apartment... do those taxes cover the services consumed by 15 people? I think not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Now, I am not exaggerating here, Where I live we DO have problems with large numbers of Illegals crowding homes, apartments etc... far in excess of legal occupancy standards, and the authorities do bust them... all the time. Because the cost of housing is so high, and so are the taxes.
Most Illegals work for cash, off the books and pay NO taxes... yet their kids suck our school districts dry, they clog our emergency rooms where they get treated and do NOT pay the bills leaving us the taxpayer to foot the costs. Many drive without a license.. without insurance and screw people when they cause an accident and don't pay for their damages. And by illegals... not all are hispanic. There are plenty of illegals from Russia, China, India, Pakistan etc, too. I mean ALL of them. Too many focus ONLY on the Hispanics... ignoring the others.
Best Damn speech I've heard in years... by a Judge... not a politician (politicians are all liars and cheats for the most part), people from outside the USA might not understand its significance however. Because its all about constitutional rights and limitations inposed on the government by the constitution.
YouTube - Judge Andrew Napolitano Natural rights Patriot Act - Part 3 of 3
He's a liar and a crook.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
We already know Obama is a liar and Crook, he's a politician from Chicago... nuff said.. (they all are)... the Judge spells out what the others are doing as well. The constitution is really clear about the limits of the Federal giovernment... a concept liberals want to ignore.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
How do you know when Obama is telling a lie? His lips are flapping.
I meant Napalitano. Try to keep up. You paint with the very wide brush don't you: all liberals are this, all liberals are that, all Chicago politicians are this... and it's always soemthing very negative. Why do feel the need to do this? You don't believe that people are individuals?Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Hey... Obama is CLEARLY violating the constitution... anyone who can read the constitution knows Federal power is not unklimited or all encompassing... and it never was form the beginning.
However I've never seen any proof what-so-ever presented that discredits a single word of Napolitanos speech.
Gee, Obama, Mayor Daily... Blogdonovich there's three... can you name a single honest CHicago politician that WASN'T in trouble over doing something they weren't supposed to do?
Besides... most people who identify as liberal, believe ONLY what the DNC tells them to believe... even when presented proof. Hell, closer to home (where I reside), look at Marrion Berry. Democrat... caught ON VIDEO, smoking Crack Coccain in a hotel with a convicted Prostitute... whining he was set up... and democrats agreeing he was set up... and 20 some years later STILL do long after he served his time...
Yeah there are individuals out there... but sadly there are far too many people that think they are owed entitlements, yet pay no taxes... and now expect free health care the rest of us are supposed to pay for. Liberals just happen to be who most of them identify with.
I happen to be sick and damn tired of paying for them... get a job, make a sacrifice like the rest of us. And screw the illegals... I don't give a damn if they die in the gutter, I have my own bills nobody is helping ME pay. Including trying to save for a retirement since they give SSI to people that never workded a day in their life much less paid into it... I've been paying into for 30 years now I may never see a dime of.
Hell I don't even have my own cell phone because I need that money for other stuff... but when was the last time you saw a poor person WITHOUT a cell phone? Hell even the illegals have cell phones...
I'm so ticked off, I will sell my extra stuff on eBay... or shred it before it goes in the trash... if they are going to tax me exen more so the lazy don't have to sacrifice... I'll be damned if I will give them my stuff free any longer. Yeah it's a lower tax deduction... but hell, It would be worth it. I have to buy my own health care... let them buy their own... not extort it out of me. ANd yeah... my charitible donations in the past were never insignificant... but they will be... like ZERO. Lazy bums getting free health care I have to pay for BY FORCE on top of my own... screw them all.
And oh yeah... I am so fired up over this... you would not imagine. It's a world class sore point with me right now... over and above anything and everything else.
Sorry Karma... so you know this isn't directed at you... you can't imagine how irritated I am over this right now. I'm barely keeping my head above the water right now... without this new crap.
High School droppouts made that choice... they have to live with it... I am not going to joyfully part with MY hard earned money without a fight. I busted my butt, graduated... paid my own way through college with NO help from the government because I was too white... spent a decade paying off those loans.. clawed my way to where I am now... and some liberals think I should be sharing what I have with someone who never made the effort to better themselves... huff huff... grrrrrrrrrrrr...
Actually, no, he's not. He was never a politician in Daley's machine. He dealt with it as a community organizer to improve Chicago South Side neighborhoods.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I came out here to college in 1963 and never left the area. I have no love for Daley or his minions, and, thank God, have never lived in Chicago so that Daley or his father was my mayor.
Obama is not a product of Chicago politics. His political experience is in the 'hoods and as a state senator.
Hey Smoothy:
Republican Sex Offenders
Here's a small excerpt
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# Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
# Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
# Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
# Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
# Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
# Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
# Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
# Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
# Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
# Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
# Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
# Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
# Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
# Republican County Councilman Keola Child's pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
# Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
# Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
# Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
# Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
# Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
# Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Barney Frank is still in office... do you care?
THat goes to show the integrity of the Democratic Party...
Durban... bibes, kickbacks
Half of Obamas Czars are Tax cheats... yet silence from the Democrat party...
TheTimothy Geitner... head of the treasury and thus IRS is a Tax cheat... well documented... and PROVEN. Democrats act like it was a parking ticket.
When the Democrats clean up their hours RIGHT now... then worry about lesser people.
Or does the Democrat party excommunicate people who point at the would class cheats and thieves in their own party they turn a blind eye to?
How About Charles Rangal from New York... tax cheat, no calls from even one democrat to kick him out...
Yeah... right. Democrats are allowed to do whatever they want... and they are defended by the democrats who protect them...
Yeah... you want me to have respect for them? Lets see them do to their own offenders what they HAVE done to Republicans in the past... THEN I might start to care.
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