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Originally Posted by spitvenom

Speech I'm not saying she is right. What I am saying is she perceives people from the republican party as scary. She did not single out Texas I am sure she had no clue what state those people were from. Hell they could have been from right here in PA.

Her almost exact words were please turn this off these women they look like jesus freaks step ford wife's and it is creeping me out. See that is how your party is perceived. And we all know perception is reality.

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I don't always view perception as reality. I perceive liberals to be a bunch of damn fools but I know that's not always the case. Why does you wife perceive us that way, from experience or is that just the way we're presented?

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My question to you is why do YOU SPEECH keep making this about North and South? When that has Nothing at all to do with this.

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Where did I say anything about north and south? I used the Texas photo and my experience in this neck of the woods because that's where I live, no need to perceive anything more than that. I just stated a fact, we conservatives are good people, in Texas or in PA.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

it is not right or left .on a straight line graphic there is liberty at one end and tyranny at the other .

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Absolutely right.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Absolutely right.

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To further your point, both ideologies have the potential for both results.

Speech you and I know perception isn't reality but there are millions upon millions of people who do. Just look at the ratings for American Idol it is perceived to be a good show but it is really garbage. Lame example I know but it popped in my head.

When She looked up for 5 seconds from her school work she just saw some crazy looking women with big hair and too much make up on with these big ole crucifix pins. To her that is scary. I don't know why it is but it is. If she would have watched the RNC like I did she would have seen people that looked like her. But when you get these little clips you make your own reality.

It was like the other day I pulled up in my hybrid and someone started to talk to me about how great it was that I care about the environment and how I was being green. I've said it a bunch of times on here that I didn't buy it cause I care about the environment I care about how much money I am saving on gas and how it wasn't that expensive. But since the perception is that everyone who drives a hybrid must care about the environment then I have to care also. Hell if the Insight cost as much as the Pirus, civic Hybrid, Fusion Hybrid I wouldn't have bought it. It is funny to see the look on their face when I explain that to them. It kind of crushes some hippies.

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Originally Posted by spitvenom

It is funny to see the look on their face when I explain that to them. It kind of crushes some hippies.

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I'd almost pay to see you do that, lol.

It is funny! One person told me I don't deserve to drive a hybrid with that attitude. I just had to laugh

Misses a lot of this discussion...

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The thing that stops me from being a republican is the religious aspect of the party. It is such a turn off that I want nothing to do with it.

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I am not registered to a party either .But religion one way or another should not be a deciding factor . The truth is that civil society is glued together with a moral code regardless if some formal religion influences it or not. The phrase you can't legislate morality drives me nuts because all laws have a moral foundation . What is the lefts vaunted emphasis on fairness if it isn't trying to impose some kind of moral standard on the civil society ?

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Originally Posted by spitvenom

It is funny! One person told me i don't deserve to drive a hybrid with that attitude. I just had to laugh

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You don't "deserve to drive a hybrid?" I guess there's supposed to be some sort of ideological test for hybrid shoppers. Good for you though, if you can laugh at all that then you're an all right dude.

You guys are all right too. Today was fun lets do it again tomorrow!

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Originally Posted by spitvenom

You guys are alright too. Today was fun lets do it again tomorrow!

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Hello spit:

Better watch out. Having fun with a righwinger is like going hunting with vice. It's fun for a few minutes... then kablooee!

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello spit:

Better watch out. Having fun with a righwinger is like going hunting with vice. It's fun for a few minutes..... then kablooee!

excon

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LOL, one VP shoots a friend and we're all reckless maniacs.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

LOL, one VP shoots a friend and we're all reckless maniacs.

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So the actions of one do not taint the whole, is that what you are saying?

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello spit:

Better watch out. Having fun with a righwinger is like going hunting with vice. It's fun for a few minutes..... then kablooee!

excon

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For Pete's sake! If Cheney had wanted to hurt him he sure wouldn't have used BIRD shot.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

So the actions of one do not taint the whole, is that what you are saying?

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Are you implying I ever believed otherwise?

No, of course not!!

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Originally Posted by ETWolverine

My brother, who is of "your generation" (30 years old, 10 years younger than me) used to be a flaming liberal. Then he began working and watched a) the unions in action in his profession, b) the whiners who leach off the public troth, and c) his paycheck cut in half, and suddenly he wasn't quite so liberal anymore. Oh, to be sure he's to the left of me (most people are). But he's no lib anymore, at least not on most issues.

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I'd say he just spent one too many Thanksgivings with you in his ear telling him about the evils of liberals. Talk about torture.. :D ;)

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, gal:

You are still clinging to this warped conspiracy theory about Obama's death. Please send me a copy of the email so that I can investigate who is saying this crap. You're not making this up by yourself.

excon

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First, I never said it WOULD happpen.

Secondly, you are saying that I have no original thoughts. Don't you think that is presumptous of you?

2012 I doubt 2012 but I do believe he will be reelected and then do some of that by 2015-16
2012 is most probably going to be some, more than likely unusual or rare, natural disaster.

It's that Mayan calender thingy.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

it's that Mayan calender thingy.

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Yep that is what I'm guessing.
I think Alan keyes gets the whole political picture better than anybody but when he tries going and making timelines he starts messing up. All I can say is leave the timelines to the psychics so they can be the ones that are wrong when it doesn't happen.