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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

You're a funny guy...5 minutes at Memri and you can get a lot. You guys think Fox news is the worst thing in the world but don't blink at Palestinian TV. You guys think Christian evangelicals are dangerous but a Saudi cleric teaching 8-year-olds to hate Jews doesn't raise an eyebrow. What a warped, warped world you live in.

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No! This is what I see;

Fox News for what it is,
NBC for what it is,
Palestinian TV for what it is,
Some Christian Evangelicals as dangerous, and
Saudi Clerics teaching 8 year old's to hate as disgraceful.

You see, I see it all as being in the same big basket. I don't see one side as good and the other as evil. They are all as bad as one another and we'd probably be better off without them. The with us or against us model simply doesn't and hasn't worked.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Um, exactly what is the relevance of that comment?

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Do I really need to draw you a picture?

The hypocrite repubs on this boart showed no indignation when:

http://www.hermes-press.com/bush_kiss.jpg

And

http://www.hermes-press.com/bush_saudi7.jpg

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Originally Posted by tomder55

American Presidents do not bow before Royalty ,nor do we dip our flag in deference or salute.

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But they will bo to religious leaders?

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...PopeRatz-1.jpg

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The hypocrite repubs on this boart showed no indignation when:

http://www.hermes-press.com/bush_kiss.jpg

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Nice Photoshopping. On the 2nd, it's been addressed, where've you been?

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Originally Posted by 45notdaddy

Do I really need to draw you a picture?

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Yes, please. I sourced The Huffington Post, Slate Magazine, Newsbusters, Daily Kos, the NY Times, Merriam-Webster, Claremont, Discover the Networks, The Wall Street Journal and Memri.

A couple of minutes of research tells me that as far as I know the only ones that have mentioned Fox News are you and Wondergirl. So what's the relevance?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

But they will bo to religious leaders?

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...PopeRatz-1.jpg

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From the horse's mouth, 11-June-2007 -- Catholic World News Brief

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President Bush drew a laugh from the Pope when he answered another question. The Pope asked whether a meeting between the US leader and Russian President Vladimir Putin had been productive. Bush replied, gesturing toward the reporters, "I'll tell you in a few minutes."

President Bush, who is a Methodist, did not bow when he met the Pope, and consistently addressed the Pontiff as "Sir."

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President Bush, who is a Methodist, did not bow when he met the Pope, and consistently addressed the Pontiff as "Sir."

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Oh really?

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/images/bush_bow.jpg

Bow - I guess. Bent over :rolleyes: ?

I wonder if Obama bent or bowed for Rev. Wright? Oh that's right, Obama threw him under the bus after 20 years of not realizing what the Rev's views on America were :eek:






G&P

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Originally Posted by inthebox

Bow - I guess. Bent over :rolleyes: ?

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Which is exactly what Obama did with the Queen. :rolleyes: You guys can be so blinded to only see stuff you want to see.

http://images.smh.com.au/2009/04/03/...w420-420x0.jpg
That's a bow. What Bush did was nod... it's very common among we Texans and many others in the south to nod when greeting someone.

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." G.W.B.—Washington, D.C. Aug. 5, 2004

"One of the very difficult parts of the decision I made on the financial crisis was to use hardworking people's money to help prevent there to be a crisis."—Washington, D.C. Jan. 12, 2009

"I'm telling you there's an enemy that would like to attack America, Americans, again. There just is. That's the reality of the world. And I wish him all the very best."—Washington, D.C. Jan. 12, 2009

All quotes G.W. Bush

I don't know why he bowed, but it was a mistake. I'm a big Obama fan, and regret that he did this. He's the President of the United States, which came about because we live in a democracy that chose him on his qualities and the power of his campaign. He earned his role. Monarchs become monarchs because they are born, which to me, is a holdover from another era.

In the end, though, it's a minor issue. Don't read too much into it.

Let's see some video, that just looks like he dropped something.

It looks like he bowed. I don't see how that could be construed as picking something up that someone had dropped.

Tick

Hello again:

I'm just amazed that bowing is all you got... You righty's are getting sillier every day.

excon

Um, didn't we go to war in the 1700's over not bowing to royalty? You might think it's silly, but American presidents do NOT bow to other world leaders. And yes, even Bush's hand holding was embarrassing, but at least it wasn't subservient. Our "leader," the Commander in Chief, the "leader of the free world" showing such submissive gestures is pathetic. Such symbolism has some serious meaning to a world that wants nothing more than to see us brought to our knees.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Such symbolism has some serious meaning to a world that wants nothing more than to see us brought to our knees.

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You might want to talk to a therapist about that persecution complex. BTW the US is so far up the Saudi's butt that it really doesn't matter what your president does.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Our "leader," the Commander in Chief, the "leader of the free world" showing such submissive gestures is pathetic. Such symbolism has some serious meaning to a world that wants nothing more than to see us brought to our knees.

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Hello again, Steve:

As you are fond of saying, now we're getting to the heart of it.

You view any foreign policy that isn't belligerent, threatening or saber rattling as weakness. I view THAT policy as making us LESS safe, and by adopting it, we hasten our own demise. Such a policy would wind up with a world that "wants nothing more than see us brought to our knees" - kind of like the one we have now.

Instead, Obama believes in the old Republican saw of "walking softly, while carrying a big stick".

Plus, if you want to talk about pathetic, making up stuff, so that we could invade a country that posed NO THREAT to us, was pretty damn pathetic. One could say that it was a touch more dangerous than bowing. One could say that... Ok, I'M saying that.

excon