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Originally Posted by BABRAM

Notice the similarities????!!!!!! That's what I've been referencing. I even gave that same reference on the political board.

Time zone is irrelevant here. I know you've been mentioning CBS and CNN, but I've been referencing the study you first cited, the one you actually linked to and the one I quoted. You asked for proof of your mythical poll, I gave it, now where's my hundred bucks?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Time zone is irrelevant here. I know you've been mentioning CBS and CNN, but I've been referencing the study you first cited, the one you actually linked to and the one I quoted. You asked for proof of your mythical poll, I gave it, now where's my hundred bucks?

Wrong. Timing is everything. And although it's the first time ever that I've encountered such foolishness, I do like to be thorough when being accused of not knowing my reference points. I made several references, which BTW, the one you are speaking of, if you read the link uses the CNN numbers, as well. So now your wrong on two accounts. In that same post I referenced the CBS poll and that I did cite by memory, I paraphrased (proof again below). But you said I didn't!

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Follow me closely, Bobby. You didn't cite CBS or CNN, you cited an "unscientific glimpse" by "HCD Research with the help of Muhlenberg College's Institute of Public Opinion." I based my reasonable conclusion on what you put on the table, not what wasn't there.

If you can prove that the following words below are from that poll above and not the CBS poll, I'll start writing out the check.

Bobby said...

"The latest CBS poll on last night's debate showed the public has Biden's knowledge approval rating at approximately 98%"

Now from the CBS poll...

CBS Poll: More Uncommitted Voters Saw Biden As Winner - Horserace

"But Biden still has the advantage on this – 98 percent saw him as knowledgeable after the debate."

Now you "Steve" are claiming I didn't reference that CBS poll! Go ahead, print the whole exchange out in this post and take it your preacher buddy today and let him maul it over. ;)

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Originally Posted by BABRAM

I made several references, which BTW, the one you are speaking of, if you read the link uses the CNN numbers, as well.

Bobby, I'm man enough to admit a mistake. The article on the survey you linked to which I quoted every time, which you called mythical though I proved to be the one you said didn't exist (the article is about this study first and foremost - CNN isn't mentioned until the 13th paragraph), for which you promised, "if any person on this board, can find this mystery poll that Steve thinks I used... a check in the mail for one hundred US dollars" and then moved the goal post - did mention CNN - even though in that very post you did not mention CNN. I acknowledged its mention of CNN. Happy?

I proved your mythical poll to exist, now where's my hundred bucks - or are you just going to keep moving the goal post, attacking me personally, and welshing on your bet?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Bobby, I'm man enough to admit a mistake. The article on the survey you linked to which I quoted every time, which you called mythical though I proved to be the one you said didn't exist (the article is about this study first and foremost - CNN isn't mentioned until the 13th paragraph), for which you promised, "if any person on this board, can find this mystery poll that Steve thinks I used...a check in the mail for one hundred US dollars" and then moved the goal post - did mention CNN - even though in that very post you did not mention CNN. I acknowledged its mention of CNN. Happy?

I proved your mythical poll to exist, now where's my hundred bucks - or are you just going to keep moving the goal post, attacking me personally, and welshing on your bet?

It was an open invitation to every board participant. Notice that nobody came to your rescue? I know that you associate correction and being chastised (especially from me), as insults. But quite frankly, if you attempted to become a lawyer your practice would be from a cardboard box in a dark narrow alley.

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Originally Posted by BABRAM

Oh?! Before you had suggested that Gwen Ifill lacked integrity, and now you've added that she's not ethical?! But that's not ridiculing in your book??? Son, I have news for you! You're not entitled to be called my friend. Friendship is earned, not because two people are fans of the same football team. And my friends, by the way, wouldn't call me a liar either, but you did. I just posted the CBS poll that I was citing and still you would claim otherwise. Yup! According to you ,"CNN/CBS or whatever polls because that was not the study you cited."I'm going to stop your childish shenanigans. Here's my promise, if any person on this board can find this mystery poll that Steve thinks I used...it's worth a check in the mail for one hundred US dollars. That's right! Go back through the threads relating to this VP debate discussion.

Read above! Its not "mythical," but mystery. It's mythical if it didn't exit, yet my reference poll did exist. It was called CBS. It was a mystery to you to find where else besides the CBS poll that I got that those "knowledge approval" numbers. You couldn't. Because your argument was that I didn't cite the CBS poll. You came up short. A hundred dollars short to be exact. Remember when I said don't try counting the teeth in my mouth?? But instead you opted that it was the "Morning Call" poll. I said you are now wrong on two accounts. One, the CBS poll was cited, and two, of the several references I used, the 98% knowledge approval rating for Biden came from the CBS poll, not the "Morning Call" poll (related CNN numbers see below) that I mentioned earlier in the same post . Why would you want to argue with any person over their own posts, and their own reference points? That's really not smart, Steve. You can argue over views, Republican, Democrat or Independent, but not that I didn't make a reference, the I clearly cited originally by saying, "the latest CBS poll."

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Originally Posted by BABRAM

The latest CBS poll on last night's debate showed the public has Biden's knowledge approval rating at approximately 98%

Now from the CBS poll...

CBS Poll: More Uncommitted Voters Saw Biden As Winner - Horserace

"But Biden still has the advantage on this – 98 percent saw him as knowledgeable after the debate."

In the process of clearing up your confused wrongful conjecture, I then pointed out that, BTW, if you would like to reference the "morning call" poll, it also makes reference to the CNN poll numbers, which again you originally said was not cited either. Since then your ego finally allowed you to succumb and admit to at least one of your multiple mistakes here. Yes. I'm very happy. But I can only imagine what sort of killjoy you are for company. :)

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Originally Posted by BABRAM

It was an open invitation to every board participant. Notice that nobody came to your rescue?

Moved the goal post again, eh? To claim my bet requires someone else to come to my rescue, not just "any person?" You know Bobby, it's strange how you think the first person to prove it would need a rescue.

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Read above! Its not "mythical," but mystery. It's mythical if it didn't exit, yet my reference poll did exist.

Twice already in one post, moved the goal post again. The bet was on the poll "Steve thinks I used," the survey on which the article you linked to was about. Forgive me for being so naïve as to think a link to an article on a specific survey that just happened to cite a different poll deep into the article would be what you were referring to, and not believing that if you were speaking primarily of another poll you might have linked to that particular poll instead.

Here's a clue Bobby, if your point hinges on a particular item you should link to that item, not something entirely different - the item which I quoted verbatim every time on which my point behind all of this rests - the "unscientific glimpse" I originally mentioned. I admitted my mistake, are you man enough to admit yours? And while we're correcting on words, I said "friendly" - not "friends." Friendly is cordial and respectful, something you've been lacking ever since you've been in the tank for Obama.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Moved the goal post again, eh? To claim my bet requires someone else to come to my rescue, not just "any person?" You know Bobby, it's strange how you think the first person to prove it would need a rescue.

Pssst... Nobody sensible answered (even after offering the moolah). Now did you copy this discussion and give it to your "preacher" (pastor), like I requested? Surely you would trust him to be straight as possible with you. See Steve I'd let your own Christian minister decide if your argument makes any sense. That's how confident I am that your ego has blinded you!

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Twice already in one post, moved the goal post again. The bet was on the poll "Steve thinks I used," the survey on which the article you linked to was about. Forgive me for being so naive as to think a link to an article on a specific survey that just happened to cite a different poll deep into the article would be what you were referring to, and not believing that if you were speaking primarily of another poll you might have linked to that particular poll instead.

You're twice as confused. The CBS poll was not cited from deep within another article. You mean the CNN poll that was in the "Morning poll" article. Oh grasshopper, foot get sore kicking your butt. I'm more than willing though to forgive you for being naïve.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Here's a clue Bobby, if your point hinges on a particular item you should link to that item, not something entirely different - the item which I quoted verbatim every time on which my point behind all of this rests - the "unscientific glimpse" I originally mentioned. I admitted my mistake, are you man enough to admit yours?

Oh goodies! I like clues. Here's one! Can you say "dictator?!" Nobody has to link anything, Stevie. Your lack of comprehension is not my fault. Occasionally I cite from memory. Like when I said "the latest CBS poll," and then cited the stats. Quit trying to control people and tell them what to do. It's not healthy for you and besides when you run into individuals like myself you just get worked over and embarrassed. And don't go take out your frustration on the dog, or heaven forbid anyone in your family. Suck it up, big boy.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

And while we're correcting on words, I said "friendly" - not "friends." Friendly is cordial and respectful, something you've been lacking ever since you've been in the tank for Obama.

Wow! You just made me spew drink out my nose. Try warning me ahead of time before going on another silly tangent. That word, "mythical," has a different meaning than the word,"mystery." Mythical is the word you wrongfully injected into this discussion. I used the word "mystery."

Now Stevie, take a close look at the adverb, "friendly." Notice that it is of, relating to, or befitting a "friend." ;)

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Originally Posted by BABRAM

Pssst... Nobody sensible answered (even after offering the moolah). Now did you copy this discussion and give it to your "preacher" (pastor), like I requested? Surely you would trust him to be straight as possible with you. See Steve I'd let your own Christian minister decide if your argument makes any sense. That's how confident I am that your ego has blinded you!

Ego my a$$, one has to put ego aside to admit a mistake. When will you do the same?

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You mean the CNN poll that was in the "Morning poll" article. Oh grasshopper, foot get sore kicking your butt. I'm more than willing though to forgive you for being naïve.

Thanks for realizing the obvious. I said concerning your original article, that it "did mention CNN." Look it up.

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Oh goodies! I like clues. Here's one! Can you say "dictator?!" Nobody has to link anything, Stevie. Your lack of comprehension is not my fault. Occasionally I cite from memory. Like when I said "the latest CBS poll," and then cited the stats. Quit trying to control people and tell them what to do. It's not healthy for you and besides when you run into individuals like myself you just get worked over and embarrassed. And don't go take out your frustration on the dog, or heaven forbid anyone in your family. Suck it up, big boy.

At least you can amuse yourself, it can be really good for a tortured soul to escape into a fantasy world for a while. Me, I'm fine with reality.

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Wow! You just made me spew drink out my nose. Try warning me ahead of time before going on another silly tangent. That word, "mythical," has a different meaning than the word,"mystery." Mythical is the word you wrongfully injected into this discussion. I used the word "mystery."

Mythical, mystery, doesn't matter. If you aren't smart enough to figure out the quotes I used were from the mythical (imaginary), mystery (One whose identity is unknown and who arouses curiosity) survey you linked to that's for you to work out. You really shouldn't get into an argument with me about word definitions, it's not good for your blood pressure.

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Now Stevie, take a close look at the adverb, "friendly." Notice that it is of, relating to, or befitting a "friend." ;)

Obvisously you don't understand words have different meanings, as in "Favorably disposed; not antagonistic." Now where's my hundred bucks?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Ego my a$$, one has to put ego aside to admit a mistake. When will you do the same?

When I make the mistake.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Thanks for realizing the obvious. I said concerning your original article, that it "did mention CNN." Look it up.

Took you three days to come that conclusion. It was your choice to argue frivolously like you've done numerous times on this board with others. Personally I think you had a learning disorder that carried over into your adulthood.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

At least you can amuse yourself, it can be really good for a tortured soul to escape into a fantasy world for a while. Me, I'm fine with reality.

You did this to yourself.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Mythical, mystery, doesn't matter. If you aren't smart enough to figure out the quotes I used were from the mythical (imaginary), mystery (One whose identity is unknown and who arouses curiosity) survey you linked to that's for you to work out. You really shouldn't get into an argument with me about word definitions, it's not good for your blood pressure.

Words do matter. It's that attitude that gets you in trouble. Like I said you have a learning disorder. Mystery is, as in you, trying to overcome your reading comprehension deficiencies and figure out the CBS poll citing that was right before your eyes. Mythical refers to mythology,"speechlessZEUS."

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Obviously you don't understand words have different meanings, as in "Favorably disposed; not antagonistic." Now where's my hundred bucks?

Like I said you have a learning disorder. Check the first the first five letters at the root of the word friendly. If I thought a hundred bucks would be enough to help overcome your learning disabilities I'd gladly send it.

I've had my say and it's obvious you don't honor your bets, so ramble on...

Like I said twice before, since you don't trust me just copy the discussion and take it your pastor for his reaction. I'd dearly love that! Oh! And BTW only winners get paid in Vegas, and I'm the house. You can't beat the house, baby.

;)

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Originally Posted by BABRAM

Like I said twice before, since you don't trust me just copy the discussion and take it your pastor for his reaction. I'd dearly love that! Oh! And BTW only winners get paid in Vegas, and I'm the house. You can't beat the house, baby.

;)

Right on cue. Ramble on... and on and on and on...