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Do you think it takes courage to be a wife beater ?

I think it doesn't take courage to say that a 100 pound woman wasn't hit hard enough in your opinion.

To answer your question, no, it doesn't take courage to hit your wife. Any weeny could do it.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I think it doesn't take courage to say that a 100 pound woman wasn't hit hard enough in your opinion.

To answer your question, no, it doesn't take courage to hit your wife. Any weeny could do it.

As a former hittee, I can vouch for the cowardice of wife beaters, at least some of them. My ex is not at all brave around other men. But he was bigger than me and it was easy for him to hurt me. In time, I learned to exploit his cowardice to protect myself.

As for the video, true the cop "only" pushed her down with his nightstick, but I don't imagine that whack felt very good. I just re watched the video and I am convinced he really did send her flying. Having been knocked around a little, that looked realistic. First off, it's simple conservation of momentum. (Like a car hitting a bicycle instead of another car.) Second, she didn't have time to push herself away. The cop is the one who sent her flying. Big guys tend to underestimate their own impact on people much smaller.

Re the arrested reporter. It might be interesting to know who didn't want those pictures taken and why.

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Originally Posted by N0help4u

Yeah police brutality and authorities do abuse their power. I think it is sad when it is only recognized when it is something of that level while the everyday citizen is told they just have to live with it, ain't nothing you can do about it. Just pay your unfair fine and do your unfair time and go on like nothing happened.

But isn't this the reason you have an armed society? To stand up to this abuse of power? That's what the gun advocates are telling me all the time. So if you all don't like it, take out the rifles and start shooting back!

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello:

Cops suck.

excon

Its sad when cops are viewed like this. And I'm not saying your view is wrong. Im not in the US so I don't know whether this is justified or not. From what I see sometimes I'm sure it is. But generally in Oz the public have nothing but respect for the police. Sure some aren't so good people but overall they do a good job and protect us well. We even feel protected enough not to want to carry guns around in our hip pockets.

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But generally in Oz the public have nothing but respect for the police.

That is true here too .

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Originally Posted by tomder55

That is true here too .

I wouldn't say so. Here's the Digg comments to that same video: Digg - Police slam CodePink protester to the ground

I realize that cops are human beings, and are not perfect, though some think they should always be so and if they are not then "they all suck."

I could not do their job, for their pay, and for what they have to deal with.

God bless them.

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Originally Posted by Skell

But isnt this the reason you have an armed society?? To stand up to this abuse of power?? Thats what the gun advocates are telling me all the time. So if you all don't like it, take out the rifles and start shooting back!

Yeah right, who wants to shoot a cop over a $300. Fine or whatever?
People want guns to protect their families against break ins and things like the Trolley Mall
and other random shootings in 'gun free zones'.

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Originally Posted by Skell

But To stand up to this abuse of power?? Thats what the gun advocates are telling me all the time. So if you all don't like it, take out the rifles and start shooting back!

Hello Skell:

We're a patient society... But, not TOO patient. If things continue on the present course, I suggest that there will be a time, in the not to distant future, when our guns WILL be used for that very purpose.

We ARE approaching the status of a police state. We no longer have privacy rights via the 4th Amendment. We no longer may show our displeasure with the government via the 1st Amendment. We no longer have habeas corpus rights via the 5th Amendment.

When it dawns on us that this ain't good, we MIGHT come around, or we'll lose what we've got.

excon

I agree with Ex 100% and I DO see that happening within the next 4 1/2 to 8 yrs.
Right now the general American public is too asleep and complacent to see what is happening right under their noses because it hasn't effected them personally YET.
They say well it is only the 'criminal element' that cops go after so they must of done something to deserve it.
The people that ARE being effected feel too powerless right now.

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Originally Posted by N0help4u

in 'gun free zones'.

Does such a place exist?

Yeah we have gun free zones in schools, hospitals, malls, office buildings, work places, problem is if somebody decides they want to kill themselves and take a bunch of people out with them those are the exact places they go for with their guns.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello Skell:

We're a patient society...... But, not TOO patient. If things continue on the present course, I suggest that there will be a time, in the not to distant future, when our guns WILL be used for that very purpose.

We ARE approaching the status of a police state. We no longer have privacy rights via the 4th Amendment. We no longer may show our displeasure with the government via the 1st Amendment. We no longer have habeas corpus rights via the 5th Amendment.

When it dawns on us that this ain't good, we MIGHT come around, or we'll lose what we've got.

excon

I suppose the problem as I see it is a lot of people for some reason ARE happy with how you are being governed. Take for example a lot of the people here at AMHD. I'm sure it is a fairly accurate reflection on the society as a whole? If so will this mean only half the people will revolt? What about the other half?

All I've seen so far in this thread only supports the decision on this side of the great pond not to allow anyone to possess and/or carry weapons , unless under strict controls for specific limited use (on fire ranges or for hunting).
Not even most of the police forces carry guns, and are often even more successful in fighting crime that in gun-overloaded US of A.

:>)

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Originally Posted by Skell

What about the other half?

Hello again, Skell:

Half?? I'll be happy with HALF on my side. Besides, you don't expect it to be a cakewalk, do you? Freedom isn't easy to defend. I'm willing to go down swinging.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Skell:

Half??? I'll be happy with HALF on my side. Besides, you don't expect it to be a cakewalk, do you? Freedom isn't easy to defend. I'm willing to go down swinging.

excon

:D I wouldn't expect anything less from you ex.. ;)

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Originally Posted by Credendovidis

All I've seen so far in this thread only supports the decision on this side of the great pond not to allow anyone to possess and/or carry weapons , unless under strict controls for specific limited use (on fire ranges or for hunting).
Not even most of the police forces carry guns, and are often even more succesful in fighting crime that in gun-overloaded US of A.

:>)

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I agree. But it is ingrained to heavily in the US culture for it change I fear. I couldn't see it there way for along while and still struggle to. But they can't see it my way either so I just agree to disagree these days. That is until one of them slips up with something way out of right field.

From the paper that captured the video:

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Forrest and CodePink said the officer was reassigned and can no longer interact with demonstrators, but that could not be immediately confirmed Wednesday.

Forrest was in jail about five hours, then spent another two hours talking with the Denver Police Department's Internal Affairs Division, she said.

"So many people were calling them after they saw the video," Forrest said, adding that this was the lone incident she had had with police during the convention.

"All of the police throughout this week have been pretty nice, and pretty cooperative," she said.

Seems like a bit of an overreaction by the cop and those of you bemoaning the 'police brutality' in this country. This was one idiot's mistake... you all have your own bad seeds don't you?